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[omega3000]

There's a blanked off button , only noticed it today ... 

[The Red Baron]

shouldnt the TC button be there.

[Carfix]

Just been out and checked on my 1998 2.5 Elite and yes I have a traction control (TC) button in that position.

I recall when looking at Omega's to buy many years ago that some had a large TC button (and a couple of blanking plates) to the left of the radio.

I had a little cubby hole in that position and later added a sat nav screen.

I also remember that some early elites had rear door glass demisters built into the rear doors. The switch may have been in that position. This option was later deleted. Certainly not on my 98 model.


Hope this helps.

[TheBoy]

3.0l 1998/9 Elites have TC button there, due to the CARiN display being in where the TC button used to sit. Eventually, it made it to that position for other trim levels on MFL

[omega3000]

So nothing should be there then 

[TheBoy]

So nothing should be there then 

Not on a 97 Elite. 94/95 Elites would have a demister button there

[omega3000]

So nothing should be there then 

Not on a 97 Elite. 94/95 Elites would have a demister button there

 

[omega3000]

My last 3.0 elite 1999 had TC so that would confirm ...so i dont have TC  maybe thats what the 3 wires near the ABS are for from the loom i was looking at yesterday .

[Andy B]

My last 3.0 elite 1999 had TC so that would confirm ...so i dont have TC  maybe thats what the 3 wires near the ABS are for from the loom i was looking at yesterday .

You DO have traction control, your car is a V6, however it looks like the TC switch has been moved. Have you a cubby hole next to the radio?
Besides the TC button is there to turn your traction control OFF 

[omega3000]

My last 3.0 elite 1999 had TC so that would confirm ...so i dont have TC  maybe thats what the 3 wires near the ABS are for from the loom i was looking at yesterday .

You DO have traction control, your car is a V6, however it looks like the TC switch has been moved. Have you a cubby hole next to the radio?
Besides the TC button is there to turn your traction control OFF 

Sat/nav is fitted in cubby hole 

 

[Andy B]

My last 3.0 elite 1999 had TC so that would confirm ...so i dont have TC  maybe thats what the 3 wires near the ABS are for from the loom i was looking at yesterday .

You DO have traction control, your car is a V6, however it looks like the TC switch has been moved. Have you a cubby hole next to the radio?
Besides the TC button is there to turn your traction control OFF 

Sat/nav is fitted in cubby hole 

 

Others will confirm ................. I've not taken enough notice of cars earlier than mine, but it's possible that the sat nav didn't get fitted at the factory. Remove the sat-nav screen & look for the large TC button 
I assume that your car is NOT 'mini facelift' ie no audio controls on the steering wheel & solid headrest 

[omega3000]

I got audio controls on steering wheel and solid headrests 

[Andy B]

I got audio controls on steering wheel and solid headrests 

Mini facelift then. 
You're missing a TC button then 

[omega3000]

I got audio controls on steering wheel and solid headrests 

Mini facelift then. 
You're missing a TC button then 

Thats not good news then 

[Andy B]

I got audio controls on steering wheel and solid headrests 

Mini facelift then. 
You're missing a TC button then 

Thats not good news then 

I'm sure a miniface lift TC will turn up via the breakers here eventually 

[omega3000]

I got audio controls on steering wheel and solid headrests 

Mini facelift then. 
You're missing a TC button then 

Thats not good news then 

I'm sure a miniface lift TC will turn up via the breakers here eventually 

So i just need to take out the blank on the dash where it should be then fit a TC switch 

[Andy B]

I got audio controls on steering wheel and solid headrests 

Mini facelift then. 
You're missing a TC button then 

Thats not good news then 

I'm sure a miniface lift TC will turn up via the breakers here eventually 

So i just need to take out the blank on the dash where it should be then fit a TC switch 

I would guess so. The plugs for the switches are locked in place on the back of the centre 'console' Pretty sure the blank will just flick out.

[omega3000]

Ok , i think the scrappy has one ....no warning lights have ever popped up on the dash . Another trip to my second home breaker heaven ...think ill just tow the breaker back for complete spares 

[Andy B]

. ....no warning lights have ever popped up on the dash . .....

Bury the throttle from a standing start on a slippery surface, the orange TC light should flash while the lack of traction is being dealt with. 

[omega3000]

. ....no warning lights have ever popped up on the dash . .....

Bury the throttle from a standing start on a slippery surface, the orange TC light should flash while the lack of traction is being dealt with. 

Will try that , strange how its been blanked off with what looks like the original panel blank though 

[Andy B]

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Will try that , strange how its been blanked off with what looks like the original panel blank though 

THE original blank or AN original blank? It's the same blank as an estate has at the other end of your switches where your rear blind is, and the same blank as a car with heated seats might have. 

[omega3000]

Might as well blank the drivers heated seat switch , thats never worked 
Its not the switch i swopped them 

When will my list of jobs end 

Keeps me out of trouble i guess 

[Andy B]

Might as well blank the drivers heated seat switch , thats never worked 
Its not the switch i swopped them 

When will my list of jobs end 

Keeps me out of trouble i guess 

Driver's seat will be a damaged/burnt out heater base element. They all do that Sir! 

Mine works  (it didn't 8 years ago when I bought it though  )

[omega3000]

Might as well blank the drivers heated seat switch , thats never worked 
Its not the switch i swopped them 

When will my list of jobs end 

Keeps me out of trouble i guess 

Driver's seat will be a damaged/burnt out heater base element. They all do that Sir! 

Mine works  (it didn't 8 years ago when I bought it though  )

Indeed and its leather  a minor problem i can live with ...i tell the missus her's is broken too so i dont feel left out while she gets a warm arz 

[adey2]

same tc switch as the early vectras buddy, will narrow your search for one down, i may have one in garage floating aroound the floor of many vauxhall parts if you cant find one

[omega3000]

same tc switch as the early vectras buddy, will narrow your search for one down, i may have one in garage floating aroound the floor of many vauxhall parts if you cant find one

Thanks adey , if you find one could you pm me . Will save me a trip to the breakers 

[adey2]

will have a look over weekend, got someone coming for a vectea interior so will clear most out of there

[omega3000]

Ok cheers 

[crusty]

I'm no expert but i  may be able to help here. Eatmydust has a 3.0 litre mini fl with TC which is on all the time and no button to switch it off.The 2.5 have a switchable TC with a button where the blank button is on a 3.0. As mentioned in an  earlier reply the first couple of years of Omega productions had a  side window demist button in this space. Later cars had a blank switch as the  side window demist was deleted option.  Pulling out the blank button and putting a TC button there will not enable the TC to be switched on or off on a 3.0 litre car. It will also not light up either, i know, been there, tried that. Hope this helps and makes sense.

[omega3000]

I'm no expert but i  may be able to help here. Eatmydust has a 3.0 litre mini fl with TC which is on all the time and no button to switch it off.The 2.5 have a switchable TC with a button where the blank button is on a 3.0. As mentioned in an  earlier reply the first couple of years of Omega productions had a  side window demist button in this space. Later cars had a blank switch as the  side window demist was deleted option.  Pulling out the blank button and putting a TC button there will not enable the TC to be switched on or off on a 3.0 litre car. It will also not light up either, i know, been there, tried that. Hope this helps and makes sense.

Thats interesting "crusty" .

Mmm 

[fiend61]

Eatmydust has a 3.0 litre mini fl with TC which is on all the time and no button to switch it off.

thats the same as some veccys then, there is a way to turn off TC in that case, start car then turn off and start immediately,  do this in one motion so the engine doesnt actually stop this disables the TC does on the vecs (why you would want to i dont know)  to re-enable the same procedure 

[TheBoy]

will have a look over weekend, got someone coming for a vectea interior so will clear most out of there

/Panto mode...

Oh no it isn't

(but will work)

[TheBoy]

The car will have TC, just no way to disable it. No problem, unless he wants to go drifting. Or it works as badly as Andy B's

I suspect its actually a 98 model, and the wires are slung behind the satnav screen, and need moving up to the blanking plate...

[TheBoy]

Spookily, just had the reply about 2mins after posting above.  It is a 1998 model. Problem solved

[omega3000]

No need to worry then , wont be going drifting .

Only original concern was why i hadnt got the dash TC button as im sure it was on my 99 elite so all is confirmed that i have TC but no switch .

Thats that then ......thanks all we got there in the end       

[TheBoy]

Switch can be retro fitted to that blank...  ...just moving some wires about. Bit fiddly though.

But TC is on by default, with no switch, you can't turn it off.

[omega3000]

Dont think i'll be fiddling with the wires , although i may still fit the switch in place of the blank plate 

[TheBoy]

If you pass Brackley, I'll do it if you want...

[Andy B]

.... so all is confirmed that i have TC but no switch .
 ......

I said that in the first place ............ ie you have a V6 so it has TC 

[omega3000]

If you pass Brackley, I'll do it if you want...

Okeydokey thanks , im just poppin out to the car now to see what i can see with the blank out .

[TheBoy]

If you pass Brackley, I'll do it if you want...

Okeydokey thanks , im just poppin out to the car now to see what i can see with the blank out .

Doubt it will have connecters in place...  ...they'll be taped up behind nav screen

[Andy B]

If you pass Brackley, I'll do it if you want...

Okeydokey thanks , im just poppin out to the car now to see what i can see with the blank out .

Doubt it will have connecters in place...  ...they'll be taped up behind nav screen

Why wouldn't Vx have fitted the TC switch like any other mini-facelift?

[TheBoy]

If you pass Brackley, I'll do it if you want...

Okeydokey thanks , im just poppin out to the car now to see what i can see with the blank out .

Doubt it will have connecters in place...  ...they'll be taped up behind nav screen

Why wouldn't Vx have fitted the TC switch like any other mini-facelift?

Early 1998 MFL had switch to left of radio. So the 3l with Satnav which had the screen there instead just had the wires taped up behind. Later, they had some sense and made its new location to left of right heated seat switch

[omega3000]

If you pass Brackley, I'll do it if you want...

Okeydokey thanks , im just poppin out to the car now to see what i can see with the blank out .

Doubt it will have connecters in place...  ...they'll be taped up behind nav screen

Correct , i took the blank out and can see the blue thing on the back but no wires into it .

[Andy B]

If you pass Brackley, I'll do it if you want...

Okeydokey thanks , im just poppin out to the car now to see what i can see with the blank out .

Doubt it will have connecters in place...  ...they'll be taped up behind nav screen

Correct , i took the blank out and can see the blue thing on the back but no wires into it .

You'll have to get Jammie to rewire it for you. 

[omega3000]

If you pass Brackley, I'll do it if you want...

Okeydokey thanks , im just poppin out to the car now to see what i can see with the blank out .

Doubt it will have connecters in place...  ...they'll be taped up behind nav screen

Why wouldn't Vx have fitted the TC switch like any other mini-facelift?

Early 1998 MFL had switch to left of radio. So the 3l with Satnav which had the screen there instead just had the wires taped up behind. Later, they had some sense and made its new location to left of right heated seat switch

   

[adey2]

just been switch searching, found so far 4 heated seats and a window demist but not the tc one, and that was only just going in a foot of garage, the search will continue till its located

[omega3000]

just been switch searching, found so far 4 heated seats and a window demist but not the tc one, and that was only just going in a foot of garage, the search will continue till its located

Ok cheers adey .



Today i put my foot to the floor , slighlty damp conditions and the car lit up the back wheels for a milisecond and the traction control light on the dash lit up and put a stop to all that spinning so i can now confirm the TC is well and working ...just cant turn it off 

[TheBoy]

just been switch searching, found so far 4 heated seats and a window demist but not the tc one, and that was only just going in a foot of garage, the search will continue till its located

Just so you know, MFL switches are different to earlier PFL switches.  Vectra-B switches are like the earlier PFL ones.