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[Viral_Jim]

I feel your pain on that front. Been meaning to get mine out of the way for a while. The Nissan Navara (or is it called a patrol in SUV form?) can tow about 3.5T I think. But they also have a nasty habit of folding in half! 

[X30XE]

I feel your pain on that front. Been meaning to get mine out of the way for a while. The Nissan Navara (or is it called a patrol in SUV form?) can tow about 3.5T I think. But they also have a nasty habit of folding in half! 

Exactly. It would a brave or foolish man who tried towing anything with a Navara 

[Doctor Gollum]

Borrowed a Shogun from work over the weekend and once you learnt to allow for braking distance and all terrain tyres, it's actually not a bad thing to drive, seemed pretty economical too, 140miles from a quarter tank...

[aaronjb]

140miles from a quarter tank...

Depends how big the tank is! I think they're ~90L or bigger..

Ford Ranger Wildtrak. Loved mine, would have another in a heartbeat.

[Viral_Jim]

Borrowed a Shogun from work over the weekend and once you learnt to allow for braking distance and all terrain tyres, it's actually not a bad thing to drive, seemed pretty economical too, 140miles from a quarter tank...

I'd forgotten all about the Shogun! A real favourite with the welsh farmers round where my parents live - suggests they're able to thrive on abuse and a lack of maintenance  .

[Doctor Gollum]

Our oldest are '57 with 250k on them... no significant problems, but they're very well maintained 

[Nick W]

Borrowed a Shogun from work over the weekend and once you learnt to allow for braking distance and all terrain tyres, it's actually not a bad thing to drive, seemed pretty economical too, 140miles from a quarter tank...

I'd forgotten all about the Shogun! A real favourite with the welsh farmers round where my parents live - suggests they're able to thrive on abuse and a lack of maintenance  .

Having recovered lots of them(and L200s) I would suggest they're no more reliable than a Discovery, but the faults tend to be major. And with Mitsubishi's pricing policy, that's no joke.


Major faults like broken crankshafts.

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Borrowed a Shogun from work over the weekend and once you learnt to allow for braking distance and all terrain tyres, it's actually not a bad thing to drive, seemed pretty economical too, 140miles from a quarter tank...

I'd forgotten all about the Shogun! A real favourite with the welsh farmers round where my parents live - suggests they're able to thrive on abuse and a lack of maintenance  .

Having recovered lots of them(and L200s) I would suggest they're no more reliable than a Discovery, but the faults tend to be major. And with Mitsubishi's pricing policy, that's no joke.


Major faults like broken crankshafts.

You should make a list of cars you haven't recovered or ones you haven't recovered that much etc... Be an interesting list I'm sure, Also make a list of the most common cars that have broken down.

[106pete]

Ohh no our friends who just bought a sorento just called to say it's broken down, won't start. I think Ive jinxed it

[Nick W]

You should make a list of cars you haven't recovered or ones you haven't recovered that much etc... Be an interesting list I'm sure, Also make a list of the most common cars that have broken down.

First point, in order: Toyotas(hardly ever saw them, and yet they're everywhere), Hondas(reliable, but not big sellers), then the Korean stuff which is steadily increasing in popularity.


Second point: Mercedes, then  Audi and BMW.


French stuff was junk, but could usually be persuaded to drag itself back to the dealer, like a runover  cat drags itself home to die.

[Viral_Jim]

Second point: Mercedes, then  Audi and BMW.

I'm surprised no JLR products make your top 3. Although I suppose that's down to how (un)common they are, comparatively speaking to the likes of the 1 series/A-Class/A3

[106pete]

Ohh no our friends who just bought a sorento just called to say it's broken down, won't start. I think Ive jinxed it

Panic over the rac man had to tell her it was out of park and hence wouldn't start haha.

I wouldn't mind a Mercedes or BMW but vary hard to find manual gearbox and I swore never to own a Audi again after my a6

[2boxerdogs]

Pal of mine bought on new around 2006 , never looks after his cars ran it for around 7 years then his daughter had it for a couple of years, I drove it when it was about 2 years old seems quite similar to my Hyundai Terracan I believe Kia & Hyundai are the same company. Don't recall him having any problems with it. Still see loads of them on camping/caravanning sites, my opinion a lot of car for little money.

[Viral_Jim]

I wouldn't mind a Mercedes or BMW but vary hard to find manual gearbox and I swore never to own a Audi again after my a6

What year was yours? Father ran an RS6 (54 plate so C5 in audi speak I think), cost an absolute fortune in repairs. Sold it when the gearbox sh!t itself (again!).

[106pete]

I wouldn't mind a Mercedes or BMW but vary hard to find manual gearbox and I swore never to own a Audi again after my a6

What year was yours? Father ran an RS6 (54 plate so C5 in audi speak I think), cost an absolute fortune in repairs. Sold it when the gearbox sh!t itself (again!).

It was a 98 2.5 tdi auto, in less than 1k miles the lift pump went the hi pressure diesel pump went, turbo actuator, water pump, abs Ecu, fuel leak. Probably more I just couldn't have bought it at a worse time. Still only did 20mpg when I sold it.
I have heard the rs models cost a bomb to repair, shame there's no easy manual gearbox conversion.

Pal of mine bought on new around 2006 , never looks after his cars ran it for around 7 years then his daughter had it for a couple of years, I drove it when it was about 2 years old seems quite similar to my Hyundai Terracan I believe Kia & Hyundai are the same company. Don't recall him having any problems with it. Still see loads of them on camping/caravanning sites, my opinion a lot of car for little money.

I would like the terracan but slightly less luxury and seem more expensive, I have been told they are billet proof tho and go on forever.