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[Kevin Wood]

Ah yes, Zigbee, that totally secure protocol 

It's an IoT device so the security can be found filed under "TODO" in the project plan.

[STEMO]

Right. So I'm not having one then. I'll be on the news, refusing to be digitised while EDF try to starve me out.

[powerslinky]

Talking "water"  here  . . . got some smart meters on my patch  . . . makes it really easy to find leaks on the individual supply. . . as, basicly, the smart meter tells our company that if the useage of a particular household never goes to zero  . . .there must be a leak of some kind  .           Simples !     

 I then go round there & find it        I've had a few leaks up around the 1000  litres per hour mark  on domestic properties

[STEMO]

Talking "water"  here  . . . got some smart meters on my patch  . . . makes it really easy to find leaks on the individual supply. . . as, basicly, the smart meter tells our company that if the useage of a particular household never goes to zero  . . .there must be a leak of some kind of leak .           Simples !     

 I then go round there & find it        I've had a few leaks up around the 1000  litres per hour mark  on domestic properties

That's all well and good, Al, but I live in a four bed, two bath house and pay about £350 a year with no meter. Before we moved we lived in a three bed, one bath house with a meter and I was paying £60 a month, both with Yorkshire water. I'll chance the leak.

[TD]

Talking "water"  here  . . . got some smart meters on my patch  . . . makes it really easy to find leaks on the individual supply. . . as, basicly, the smart meter tells our company that if the useage of a particular household never goes to zero  . . .there must be a leak of some kind of leak .           Simples !     

 I then go round there & find it        I've had a few leaks up around the 1000  litres per hour mark  on domestic properties

That's all well and good, Al, but I live in a four bed, two bath house and pay about £350 a year with no meter. Before we moved we lived in a three bed, one bath house with a meter and I was paying £60 a month, both with Yorkshire water. I'll chance the leak.

Perhaps you had a leak 

[powerslinky]

Talking "water"  here  . . . got some smart meters on my patch  . . . makes it really easy to find leaks on the individual supply. . . as, basicly, the smart meter tells our company that if the useage of a particular household never goes to zero  . . .there must be a leak of some kind of leak .           Simples !     

 I then go round there & find it        I've had a few leaks up around the 1000  litres per hour mark  on domestic properties

That's all well and good, Al, but I live in a four bed, two bath house and pay about £350 a year with no meter. Before we moved we lived in a three bed, one bath house with a meter and I was paying £60 a month, both with Yorkshire water. I'll chance the leak.

Just saying Steve,  from my point of view , for my job of  finding leaks, smart meters are really helpful   

Another point  . . .the public don't seem  to bother about water leaks  . . .  pretty harmless really a water leak in comparison to a gas leak 

As for  your £60 per month  bill  . .  .maybe you had a leak 

Edit . . .must type faster 

[STEMO]

No leak. Yorkshire water are really good, great customer service too. I queried the charges after my first bill. They sent someone round and told me to turn everything off while they looked at the meter and he got his listening stick thingy out. No internal leaks, just fickin expensive water.

[STEMO]

One thing I could never figure out was the fact that they charged more for draining it away than they did for supplying it.

[Lincs Robert]

Talking "water"  here  . . . got some smart meters on my patch  . . . makes it really easy to find leaks on the individual supply. . . as, basicly, the smart meter tells our company that if the useage of a particular household never goes to zero  . . .there must be a leak of some kind of leak .           Simples !     

 I then go round there & find it        I've had a few leaks up around the 1000  litres per hour mark  on domestic properties

That's all well and good, Al, but I live in a four bed, two bath house and pay about £350 a year with no meter. Before we moved we lived in a three bed, one bath house with a meter and I was paying £60 a month, both with Yorkshire water. I'll chance the leak.

Good on you, but ...... I thought that if you moved to a new property then you had to have a metered supply - even though the previous resident may not have had it.

What was your address again? 

[STEMO]

Talking "water"  here  . . . got some smart meters on my patch  . . . makes it really easy to find leaks on the individual supply. . . as, basicly, the smart meter tells our company that if the useage of a particular household never goes to zero  . . .there must be a leak of some kind of leak .           Simples !     

 I then go round there & find it        I've had a few leaks up around the 1000  litres per hour mark  on domestic properties

That's all well and good, Al, but I live in a four bed, two bath house and pay about £350 a year with no meter. Before we moved we lived in a three bed, one bath house with a meter and I was paying £60 a month, both with Yorkshire water. I'll chance the leak.

Good on you, but ...... I thought that if you moved to a new property then you had to have a metered supply - even though the previous resident may not have had it.

What was your address again? 

Never heard of that, not here anyway. Even if I chose to have a meter in, if I didn't like it, I could have it ignored, but not removed. The next occupiers would then have no option but to use it.

[Terbs]

Well, I tried to do my bit, enquired about a smart meter......I refer you to an earlier thread, where I related the story. It was unbelievable!!!!!.
I therefore decided, there and then, there would be no smart meter in this house for as long as it was humanly possible to keep it at bay.
Since then, stories of hacking, extortionate bills, etc, have increased my determination to resist these pieces of technology !!!!

[powerslinky]

Well, I tried to do my bit, enquired about a smart meter......I refer you to an earlier thread, where I related the story. It was unbelievable!!!!!.
I therefore decided, there and then, there would be no smart meter in this house for as long as it was humanly possible to keep it at bay.
Since then, stories of hacking, extortionate bills, etc, have increased my determination to resist these pieces of technology !!!!

Won't do it on here Terbs, but when I see you again , I will fill you in with some details .
It's not all doom & gloom  . .surprisingly 

I don't want one myself at the moment actually  . . .but thats because I DO have a leak on my supply  . . . .just gotta get round to sorting it 

[YZ250]

No chance of me having a smart meter as Eon never turned up to fit one on the several occasions that they arranged to fit one.     On the plus side they credit me with £15 every time they let me down. 
I enquired about a smart gas meter when I recently extended as the meter needed moving but British Gas said they could not install one as they are not my electric supplier, and they need the electric to read the meter.   

[Shackeng]

Talking "water"  here  . . . got some smart meters on my patch  . . . makes it really easy to find leaks on the individual supply. . . as, basicly, the smart meter tells our company that if the useage of a particular household never goes to zero  . . .there must be a leak of some kind of leak .           Simples !     

 I then go round there & find it        I've had a few leaks up around the 1000  litres per hour mark  on domestic properties

That's all well and good, Al, but I live in a four bed, two bath house and pay about £350 a year with no meter. Before we moved we lived in a three bed, one bath house with a meter and I was paying £60 a month, both with Yorkshire water. I'll chance the leak.

!!! 4/5 bed house, 3 baths, 2 people, metered, £228PA.

[STEMO]

Talking "water"  here  . . . got some smart meters on my patch  . . . makes it really easy to find leaks on the individual supply. . . as, basicly, the smart meter tells our company that if the useage of a particular household never goes to zero  . . .there must be a leak of some kind of leak .           Simples !     

 I then go round there & find it        I've had a few leaks up around the 1000  litres per hour mark  on domestic properties

That's all well and good, Al, but I live in a four bed, two bath house and pay about £350 a year with no meter. Before we moved we lived in a three bed, one bath house with a meter and I was paying £60 a month, both with Yorkshire water. I'll chance the leak.

!!! 4/5 bed house, 3 baths, 2 people, metered, £228PA.

Smelly git