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[LC0112G]

Duct tape, seems to be very popular, especially on Ford Mundano,s

Yeah, but, not really my problem. Not sure why I should have to accept a 'bodge' repair when the accident wasn't my fault, and I have the other parties details. That said, I am willing to accept a good second hand bumper with a re-spray in the interests of keeping costs down. I'm hoping I can get the cost for that down to perhaps £250-£300 incl VAT, and then approach the other party directly. If they want to dick about then it'll have to be the insurance route. This happened in Scotland, and I'm not sure is the small claims courts work north of the border. 

[robson]

No reaction to my plastic welding my friend had his Jag welded and painted on the back bumper and it looked very good. I will check what it cost.

[05omegav6]

No reaction to my plastic welding my friend had his Jag welded and painted on the back bumper and it looked very good. I will check what it cost.

Needs to be professionally done otherwise it's a temporary fix at best imho

[robson]

Checked the price he paid for plastic welding and painting. Bumper off repair painting and refit £ 300.00 Probably better to find a scrappy one.

[05omegav6]

Steve at Omega spare parts might have one in the correct colour Always worth a phone call

[LC0112G]

Ok, bought this of the bay of e. ITEM : 301343276894



Had it delivered direct to the Welsh Taffia for painting. Went up there today to fit it - and - cock. It's different. However, I'm struggling to work out what it's off.

It's obviously not a pre facelift bumper. It does basically fit, and we probably could have bodged it.  However, the hole for the rear towing eye is in the wrong location. The bumper can't be fitted to the bumper carrier with the big foam bumper backing. This new bumper doesn't 'go under' the boot floor, so there is no way to fit the two spreader clamp fittings underneath. And its not as tall in the wheel arch so the sh1t shields are miles too long to get the bottom fixing screws in.

I can't see a part number on the new bumper, but it does have a moulding date-mark of 1999. Anyone got any ideas what the foxtrot this is off?

[Andy B]

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It's obviously not a pre facelift bumper.  .......  However, the hole for the rear towing eye is in the wrong location.  .....

pre facelift don't have a hole for a screw in towing eye, the towing attachment is under the rear offside isn't it ..... ala a Senator 

[LC0112G]

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It's obviously not a pre facelift bumper.  .......  However, the hole for the rear towing eye is in the wrong location.  .....

pre facelift don't have a hole for a screw in towing eye, the towing attachment is under the rear offside isn't it ..... ala a Senator 

Yes. The other difference is that there isn't a "scallop" in the upper (flat) surface where the boot lid shuts on the new bumper. It's a completely flat top surface.

I've been doing a lot of looking at cars on autotrader/ebay, and I think it may be for a very late (2004) Omega? My EPC doesn't go that late, so I was unaware there was a change.

[05omegav6]

Might be a shit pattern part... All facelift Omega saloons use the same bumper unless Irmscher... Money back time and buy it from a proper person...

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Look at the horizontal crease/'feature line' that on a PFL would have a chrome strip on. Whereas on a facelift it's a sort of 'V' notch, on the Irmscher ones it's more of a square valley. It's hard to explain it very well. Also this crease/valley stops just short of the arch by half an inch or so, on a facelift this valley cuts right up to the edge of the bumper.

Decent example of the differences here:

http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1225636142

and the crucial images...


vs



So in my humble, I think what you've bought is a prefacelift Irmscher bumper. If this is the case, well done! You should be able to sell that for more than a 'mere' FL bumper should cost you.

[LC0112G]

Diamond Black Geezer,
It certainly looks like the bumper in the R422HPT photo - you can see the round towing eye cover on the lower lip of the bumper. I think my confusion may revolve around these pre-facelifts - were these available with body coloured bumpers - a mini-facelift? I thought they all had black tops, certainly all 3 pre facelift Elites I've owned have.

The body shop man said he thought the fit was too good for it to be a pattern part and reckoned it is genuine Vx. We did consider Irmisher, but apparently these usually have Irmisher moulded into them somewhere, and we couldn't see any identity markings other than the date code.

Ho Hum.
Malcolm

[Diamond Black Geezer]

The Irmscher panels were were the only ones to carry full colour-coding - which sort of introduced the idea on Vauxhalls of full colour-coding, which would appear as of Vectra B facelift etc.. (if we ignore stuff like the Manta in the 80s, which pre-dates everything  )

I would imagine that there would be Irmscher stamped on there somewhere. Unless you've simply missed it sounds like you're given it a good going over, though) or for whatever reason, it's not actually marked. All Omegas are made by Recaro, but you try and find it written on there anywhere visible.

The normal PFL bumper is is several sections, the two main ones being the painted element in the middle and the large black textured part which this clips onto. Together it appears as one single component with bare black plastic top and bottom.

The only other option is a copied part, so someone's taken a mould off in Poland or wherever and made an Irmscher copy. It does happen, but you've already said the fit/finish is very good, so unlikely.

I say Irmscher! 


PS - what's the date code, please?

[VXL V6]

Look at the horizontal crease/'feature line' that on a PFL would have a chrome strip on. Whereas on a facelift it's a sort of 'V' notch, on the Irmscher ones it's more of a square valley. It's hard to explain it very well. Also this crease/valley stops just short of the arch by half an inch or so, on a facelift this valley cuts right up to the edge of the bumper.

Decent example of the differences here:

http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1225636142

and the crucial images...


vs



So in my humble, I think what you've bought is a prefacelift Irmscher bumper. If this is the case, well done! You should be able to sell that for more than a 'mere' FL bumper should cost you.

I have my uses!

[Andy B]

.... - were these available with body coloured bumpers - a mini-facelift? I thought they all had black tops, certainly all 3 pre facelift Elites I've owned have. ....

You're right. It should just be the middle bit that's body coloured .... both top & bottom were black plastic with a 'textured' finish

[LC0112G]

Mystery solved. A closer look in daylight and out of yesterday's pouring rain reveals the Irmisher logo under the paint in the O/S wheel arch.

So I'm now the proud owner of a highly sought after and very valuable pre facelift Irmisher rear bumper  , which doesn't fit my car