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Prof Neil Ferguson
« on: 06 May 2020, 21:55:36 »

Wildly wrong with his modelling of Avian Flu, Swine Flu, Foot & Mouth, BSE & Covid-19. His model went from predicting 500,000 UK Covid-19 deaths making the Government panic with the lockdown rather than healthy under 70's carrying on as normal & producing herd immunity & then modified his model with a lockdown & social distancing saying there would only be 20,000 deaths.

Pity he didn't stick to fu*king his mistress, instead of fu*king the UK & totally fu*king our economy with UK 6.3m furloughed plus the 1.25m unemployed, so currently 23% of the UK workforce aren't working, which doesn't include any of the 4m self-employed many of whom have no work. In 1933 unemployment peaked in the USA at 24% in their Great Depression.

This a a review of the Ferguson's code release where if you use the same random seed for a pseudo random number generator & the same assumptions you should get the same results. Even running it as a single core thread, you don't with one such test giving an 80,000 death discrepancy over an 80 day iteration. The confidence in being able to prove any scientific hypothesis is based on independent parties being able to repeat experiments and getting correlating results within the limits of quantifiable experimental errors. His model model results are junk science. >:(

https://lockdownsceptics.org/code-review-of-fergusons-model/

Initial randomised Covid-19 antibody tests in the USA are finding between x50 and x85 times the number of people with them for every confirmed Covid-19 case which gives a mortality rate between 2 and 3 per 1000 infected people, so slightly more dangerous than a slightly worse than average Influenza at 1 death per 1000 infections. Antibody tests in Germany, Italy & The Netherlands are getting similar results. The UK has no antibody tests as they are not happy with the current test's sensitivity & are holding out for better tests which they hope will become available sometime in June, later or maybe never. Until the UK Government have some UK antibody test results they are give the UK's economy with a £150,000,000,000-£200,000,000,000 per month economic hit, while running the lockdown policy on blind infection & mortality rate assumptions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3_OseL0ArY

I don't expect Governments to get everything right in a crisis with anything over 50% of correct decisions being a good result. Sadly, IMV this Government seems to be falling well short of this number.
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Re: Prof Neil Ferguson
« Reply #1 on: 06 May 2020, 22:02:06 »

And you think labour or anyone else would have done better,dream on
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Re: Prof Neil Ferguson
« Reply #2 on: 06 May 2020, 22:13:02 »

Are you one of the self employed who is making no money, Rods?
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Re: Prof Neil Ferguson
« Reply #3 on: 06 May 2020, 22:15:40 »

BTW, there is no lockdown. I went to Asda late afternoon. People everywhere, tops off kids in tow enjoying the sunshine. Traffic was a bit lighter than before lockdown, but not much. Saw three cop cars on my travels, drivers looking bemused.
So people aren't locked down any more, just businesses.
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Re: Prof Neil Ferguson
« Reply #4 on: 06 May 2020, 22:16:45 »

NO one knows enough about Covid 19 yet to know what will happen  ::)

how much are 44,000 lives worth  :-\ how much are 250,000 lives worth  :-\

no one knows what the log term prognosis of covid 19 ,OR the treatments ,Vaccines etc etc

it's a learning curve of death   :(
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Re: Prof Neil Ferguson
« Reply #5 on: 06 May 2020, 22:17:24 »

Oh...and we queued, two metres apart, to get into Asda but, once in there, it was .......'normal'.
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« Reply #6 on: 06 May 2020, 22:17:48 »

NO one knows enough about Covid 19 yet to know what will happen  ::)

how much are 44,000 lives worth  :-\ how much are 250,000 lives worth  :-\

no one knows what the log term prognosis of covid 19 ,OR the treatments ,Vaccines etc etc

it's a learning curve of death   :(
And life.
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Re: Prof Neil Ferguson
« Reply #7 on: 06 May 2020, 22:21:50 »

NO one knows enough about Covid 19 yet to know what will happen  ::)

how much are 44,000 lives worth  :-\ how much are 250,000 lives worth  :-\

no one knows what the log term prognosis of covid 19 ,OR the treatments ,Vaccines etc etc

it's a learning curve of death   :(
And life.
Not for the dead ones it's not  ;D
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Re: Prof Neil Ferguson
« Reply #8 on: 06 May 2020, 22:22:56 »

NO one knows enough about Covid 19 yet to know what will happen  ::)

how much are 44,000 lives worth  :-\ how much are 250,000 lives worth  :-\

no one knows what the log term prognosis of covid 19 ,OR the treatments ,Vaccines etc etc

it's a learning curve of death   :(
And life.
Not for the dead ones it's not  ;D
Difficult to argue against, that  ;D
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Re: Prof Neil Ferguson
« Reply #9 on: 06 May 2020, 22:24:30 »

We haven't been anywhere near a supermarket since the middle of March everything is delivered to our door & it's great no idiots with shopping trolleys to contend with , wifey does a list each Monday and everything turns up on Wednesday to me 12 weeks isolation means exactly that. Personally I don't think it would make any difference who was in power it's a very complicated situation but I'm glad it's Boris, and indeed a learning curve for us all.
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« Reply #10 on: 06 May 2020, 22:26:12 »

Human nature dictates that people get pissed off very quickly, esp young people. It only takes a couple of folk to make a break for it and others follow very quickly.
The lockdown may prove to have been a massive lifesaver. Or the most expensive overreaction in history.
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Re: Prof Neil Ferguson
« Reply #11 on: 06 May 2020, 22:37:16 »

Human nature dictates that people get pissed off very quickly, esp young people. It only takes a couple of folk to make a break for it and others follow very quickly.
The lockdown may prove to have been a massive lifesaver. Or the most expensive overreaction in history.

Tell that to the families of those who have died.......  :(
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Re: Prof Neil Ferguson
« Reply #12 on: 06 May 2020, 22:39:52 »

NO one knows enough about Covid 19 yet to know what will happen  ::)

how much are 44,000 lives worth  :-\ how much are 250,000 lives worth  :-\

no one knows what the log term prognosis of covid 19 ,OR the treatments ,Vaccines etc etc

it's a learning curve of death   :(
And life.
Not for the dead ones it's not  ;D
Difficult to argue against, that  ;D
Not sure that the dead would be too fussed one way or tother tbh...
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Re: Prof Neil Ferguson
« Reply #13 on: 06 May 2020, 22:44:58 »

Human nature dictates that people get pissed off very quickly, esp young people. It only takes a couple of folk to make a break for it and others follow very quickly.
The lockdown may prove to have been a massive lifesaver. Or the most expensive overreaction in history.

Tell that to the families of those who have died.......  :(
Whilst I understand the sentiment, especially the brutality of not being able to properly say goodbye; an inevitable consequence of life is, ultimately, death. Timely or otherwise.

The economy will recover in due course.
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Re: Prof Neil Ferguson
« Reply #14 on: 06 May 2020, 22:48:34 »

Better to be safe than sorry or even dead
I've taken the financial hit and it's ongoing ,i'm fortunate to have a rainy day fund ,
not everyone is so lucky, and are struggling  :(
some have lost family  :'( all the money in the world won't cure that pain

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