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[Raeturbo]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources.amp

                 Just a thought

[STEMO]

A thought that's been knocking around for weeks. No evidence.

[Raeturbo]

At least weeks, but being brought up more and more now from various sources

[STEMO]

Talking of conspiracy theories, where's our resident expert?

[STEMO]

At least weeks, but being brought up more and more now from various interested sources

Fixed.

[Raeturbo]

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/04/16/china-transparency-covid-19-spread-pkg-culver-lead-vpx.cnn

More

[Raeturbo]

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/media-ignores-report-on-wuhan-lab-cited-for-hazardous-coronavirus-research/amp/

Just posting a few things I’ve seen that’s all👍

[Doctor Gollum]

Talking of conspiracy theories, where's our resident expert?

In Ukraine, watching the fire burn towards Chenobyl... 

[Doctor Gollum]

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/media-ignores-report-on-wuhan-lab-cited-for-hazardous-coronavirus-research/amp/

Just posting a few things I’ve seen that’s all👍

That's how most of the media bullshit ends up all over Farsebook

Just saying

[STEMO]

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/media-ignores-report-on-wuhan-lab-cited-for-hazardous-coronavirus-research/amp/

Just posting a few things I’ve seen that’s all👍

It may, or may not be true. When our government is ready, we'll get the version of events that they want us to believe.

[Raeturbo]

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/media-ignores-report-on-wuhan-lab-cited-for-hazardous-coronavirus-research/amp/

Just posting a few things I’ve seen that’s all👍

That's how most of the media bullshit ends up all over Farsebook

Just saying

                   Of course, but at least taking it from source not that crap gives a first hand account

[Doctor Gollum]

If you believe that is a genuine source... 

Bear in mind that Abraham Lincoln once said that everything on the interweb is true

[STEMO]

If you believe that is a genuine source... 

Rupert Murdoch's Fox news, the president's mouthpiece.

[Doctor Gollum]

If you believe that is a genuine source... 

Rupert Murdoch's Fox news, the president's mouthpiece.

Have you seen the Australian take on anything? 

[Sir Tigger KC]

If you believe that is a genuine source... 

Rupert Murdoch's Fox news, the president's mouthpiece.

Have you seen the Australian take on anything? 

Aussie Sky News is sooo different to UK Sky News! 

[STEMO]

If you believe that is a genuine source... 

Rupert Murdoch's Fox news, the president's mouthpiece.

Have you seen the Australian take on anything? 

Aussie Sky News is sooo different to UK Sky News! 

Didn't Murdoch have to sell sky news, or did I dream that?

[Raeturbo]

All news is open to scrutiny we don’t have the ability to prove disprove, however as I’ve posted a few ‘sources’, we can scrutinise that’s how we can gather information 🤲

[Sir Tigger KC]

Well I think that there's something to the lab theory...

I doubt it was a deliberate bio-weapon type scenario, but I think it's feasible that a lab worker could have accidentally caught it and then it spread through the Wuhan population, or more likely an animal (bat?) that was used for testing was sold out the back door and ended up in the market. 

[STEMO]

The theory I read, probably one of many, is that the Chinese were studying coronavirus s in order to create a vaccine. A lab worker caught it and gave it to his girlfriend. This was in Wuhan.
Not beyond the realms of possibility, but neither a deliberate act.

[Raeturbo]

If it was a mistake of some kind due to testing accidental release etc, hopefully if there is someone who knows what it was will come forward although it doesn’t look like it by now🙁🙁

[STEMO]

If it was a mistake of some kind due to testing accidental release etc, hopefully if there is someone who knows what it was will come forward although it doesn’t look like it by now🙁🙁

Yes, maybe, but what's to be gained? In the end, what difference does it make?

[Raeturbo]

Not a lot I suppose, but it’s nice to get a feeling of what’s killing you and how maybe?

[LC0112G]

I thought the reason for the outbreak was already well known. It's the 5G telephone masts - Eamonn Holmes and David Ike as good as confirmed it live on TV t'other day

[STEMO]

Not a lot I suppose, but it’s nice to get a feeling of what’s killing you and how maybe?

That'll be coronavirus, wherever it came from.

[STEMO]

I thought the reason for the outbreak was already well known. It's the 5G telephone masts - Eamonn Holmes and David Ike as good as confirmed it live on TV t'other day

Eamonn Holmes backtracked, David Icke didn't 

[Raeturbo]

Not a lot I suppose, but it’s nice to get a feeling of what’s killing you and how maybe?

That'll be coronavirus, wherever it came from.

.

      Mm..what a tit.

[Sir Tigger KC]

If it was a mistake of some kind due to testing accidental release etc, hopefully if there is someone who knows what it was will come forward although it doesn’t look like it by now🙁🙁

You're forgetting we're talking about communist China and if they haven't already been 'disappeared' they soon would be if they were daft enough to come forward. 

[Raeturbo]

Indeed, a constructive observation

[Raeturbo]

South Korea are doing so very well on keeping this virus down. A lesson to all if not a belated one.

[biggriffin]

Talking of conspiracy theories, where's our resident expert?

 He has been quite by his absence, hope he's okay, as he does have a few health related issue.

[Viral_Jim]

If it was a mistake of some kind due to testing accidental release etc, hopefully if there is someone who knows what it was will come forward although it doesn’t look like it by now🙁🙁

I'd rate the chances of that as somewhere below zero. Bearing in mind that the first doctor in Wuhan to report actual cases was visited by the state police and warned about spreading such 'lies'. Can you imagine what would happen to any whistleblower, or the families of said whistleblower .

Btw, that doctor carried on treating patients before dying of the disease himself. 

I could buy that it came from a lab, but not that it was a deliberate release. If only because you wouldn't release it in your own back yard, or if you did you'd pick somewhere with better international connections.

[Doctor Gollum]

There were at least four flights a day from China into Gatwick. Probably five times that to Heathrow, not to mention everywhere else in the world. Two people from Wuhan attended a meeting in Singapore and gave it to the bloke from Brighton who triggered the first outbreak in the Alps who had gone on a family skiing holiday within four days of the meeting and only sought medical help when he returned from skiing

Ignoring the two families he directly infected in the semidetached chalet, there's the 400 people on his flight from Singapore plus the 380 people on the two EasyJet flights he took.

Pretty efficient delivery all things considered... 

[Sir Tigger KC]

If it was a mistake of some kind due to testing accidental release etc, hopefully if there is someone who knows what it was will come forward although it doesn’t look like it by now🙁🙁

I'd rate the chances of that as somewhere below zero. Bearing in mind that the first doctor in Wuhan to report actual cases was visited by the state police and warned about spreading such 'lies'. Can you imagine what would happen to any whistleblower, or the families of said whistleblower .

Btw, that doctor carried on treating patients before dying of the disease himself.

I could buy that it came from a lab, but not that it was a deliberate release. If only because you wouldn't release it in your own back yard, or if you did you'd pick somewhere with better international connections.

That's the official line.... 

[Viral_Jim]

 

In many ways it's surprising he didn't accidentally brutally cut his own head off while combing his hair.

[Doctor Gollum]

Chinese people are state owned property with an illusion of reasonable civility.

Basically they are disposable.

[Raeturbo]

Not aimed at anyone in particular....,.,,

First off the facts in question are that people are starting to look into this theory credibly. Sorry if that fact offends anyone, sorry if it has been reported by Fox News, but that does not stop it being a fact. We'll never know the real source, probably not, but it's important that credible evidence is coming out and being looked at simply as a matter of getting to the truth. Since this coronavirus started it has been nothing but lies, cover-ups and misinformation. China downplayed the severity, they lied that there was no human-to-human transmission, the WHO pushed those lies, we were all told "it's just the flu, bruh" and now people are continuing to push Chinese propaganda by continuing the discredited wet market theory and running defence for the Chinese by trying to smear people who want to investigate the chance that it originated from a biolab that was a) near by b) had been criticised over safety c) had the relevant bats and viri d) bats that were not indigenous to the area, as pushing "conspiracy theories".

Some people actually care about the truth and if that means the Chinese are at fault then they are at fault, but the media machine doesn't want to confront that because in this whole outbreak the most important thing to them is that no-one criticises the Chinese government but because that's wacist.

Look carefully at those articles....the one from Fox simply stated what was known without comment, the one from CNN and the BBC were filled with emotive, editorial opinions, as if they are dying to tell you "we have to report on this as it is our jobs but we're going to do everything we can to discredit these facts as they are ones that don't conform to our narrative".

This whole virus has highlighted how trash our society has become, from the media, the celebrities, the partisan politics....a massive spotlight has been shone on all of it.

[Lizzie Zoom]

All this is like asking who was to blame for the outbreak of the Great War? ; historians will argue that for centuries to come!

Or who started the Spanish Flue outbreak?  Americans and some hens seem to commonly get the blame, but once again it will be argued by historians for centuries to come!

I will not go into the Black Death, which seems to be a result of some kind black rats giving free passage to tiny fleas!

Now, thank God, however Coronavirus has been caused, it is unlikely to kill the many millions of the aforementioned events.

I just think it is now too important for the international community to fully work together to find the right treatments and save as many lives as possible.

The questions can come at a far later date, but do not expect any clear answers!

[Raeturbo]

Indeed

[Doctor Gollum]

The media pedal things as 'fact', when the only genuine fact is that this is little more than speculative opinion.

For example, a colleague of mine thought that a) Jonathan Pie is real, and b) the 'interview' with Lord Chesterton was an actual event.

[STEMO]

Yeah. It's wot I said 

[Raeturbo]

Me too

[Sir Tigger KC]

Talking of the media...

Did anyone see the BBC story about the 'NHS Trust Boss' who phoned the BBC for the phone numbers of Burberry and Barbour?   

They later published a retraction and claimed that the 'NHS Trust Boss' was in fact someone who worked for a 'network of organisations' sourcing kit for NHS Trusts.   

If this 'person' ever existed and did indeed phone the BBC, it just shows why the NHS is short of kit, as if they can't use Google or the Yellow Pages to find a UK phone number, how the hell are they going to find a supplier in China, Vietnam or somewhere like that! 

Sigh... 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52333540

[Broomies Mate]

Talking of the media...

Did anyone see the BBC story about the 'NHS Trust Boss' who phoned the BBC for the phone numbers of Burberry and Barbour?   
......................................................
as if they can't use Google or the Yellow Pages to find a UK phone number, how the hell are they going to find a supplier in China, Vietnam or somewhere like that! 

There is a huge difference between a phone number to a receptionist/call centre and a phone number to the person who will actually help you!

[Sir Tigger KC]

Talking of the media...

Did anyone see the BBC story about the 'NHS Trust Boss' who phoned the BBC for the phone numbers of Burberry and Barbour?   
......................................................
as if they can't use Google or the Yellow Pages to find a UK phone number, how the hell are they going to find a supplier in China, Vietnam or somewhere like that! 

There is a huge difference between a phone number to a receptionist/call centre and a phone number to the person who will actually help you!

True, the right person at the BBC to help with a spot of shit stirring.   

[Doctor Gollum]

Finding out what the public 'wants to hear' can't be that important... Laura Kuntzenberg has had two days off this week.

Perhaps she has succumbed to Batflu...

[Lizzie Zoom]

Talking of the media...

Did anyone see the BBC story about the 'NHS Trust Boss' who phoned the BBC for the phone numbers of Burberry and Barbour?   

Indeed, and I treated it like I do with so many media 'reports';  absolute rubbish!!

There is no way anyone working in a major public of commercial organization would ever phone anyone in the media to acquire phone numbers of other commercial organisations that are, in anycase, easily found by usual business means.........yes, an internet search!

Also, lets face it, anyone at the top of such organisations, being paid what they do, would no doubt already have the phone numbers of both Burberry and Barbour, along with others, for themselves or their partners!!