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[05omegav6]

I'm amazed that in 2014 they don't know EXACTLY where the plane is.

Should we still be living in 1950 I could understand it.....but in 2014, with GPS, and the technology that goes with it.

Summat to do with Satellite coverage and the way it works? They seem pretty confident that it crashed where they lost contact, and the sea is pretty shallow there, so should find it quite quickly with sonar

[Broomies Mate]

Surely the Black (Orange) boxes will be sending out their beacon.  Technology DOES work under water.  If my £40 Casio can still tell the time after being 100m down, FDR and CVR boxes should be able to.   

[05omegav6]

The issue there is range

You have to be in the same post code to receive the signal...

[Broomies Mate]

The issue there is range

You have to be in the same post code to receive the signal...

Approximately 3 to 4 miles for a minimum of 30 days.

After MH370, the FAA made a suggestion that all FDR's should carry a battery which would last for a minimum of 90 days.  With the advancement of battery technology, it seems implausible that 90 days hasn't been the minimum for a decade or more.

The transponder is tiny, maybe 10cm in length and a couple of centimetres in diameter.  I appreciate the mass has to be kept to a minimum for the survival rate of an impact, but their inherent design hasn't changed for a bloody long time.

[Kevin Wood]

Surely the Black (Orange) boxes will be sending out their beacon.  Technology DOES work under water.  If my £40 Casio can still tell the time after being 100m down, FDR and CVR boxes should be able to.   

A beacon is about as much use as a Casio for locating the black boxes unless you have a good idea where the plane went down.

..and everything in an aircraft is pre-historic technology. This is partly because technology doesn't get into such a safety critical role until it's very well proven, and partly because the bean counters would rather pay for an expensive search occasionally than add extra costs to every flight.

The important thing is that we learn what happened to this flight eventually. How long that takes is immaterial once the prospect of any survivors being found is nil. I would suggest that, for a crash where an aircraft disappears at FL32 and there's no mayday call, the chance of any survivors was always nil.

Of course, the idiotter generation and the lazy journalists who feed from it aren't patient enough to accept that.

[Vamps]

That's 2 now in that area, not terrorist, so has to be Alien................

[Varche]

That's 2 now in that area, not terrorist, so has to be Alien................

Could still be a space vapouriser weapon being tested by a superpower.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Well the Yanks have developed a laser capable of shooting down a drone.... 

[biggriffin]

That's 2 now in that area, not terrorist, so has to be Alien................

Could still be a space vapouriser weapon being tested by a superpower.

The north Koreans, have a Sun powered lazoor that vaporized things it hits.

Hmmm  sounds like a James bond film.
Losing one plane accidentally
Losing two planes careless
But three questions need to be asked, North Korea.

[05omegav6]

Nope all wrong... plane found on the sea bed

And as someone is bound to pipe up about the significance of this,...

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/airasia-plane-overshoots-runway-in-philippines/ar-BBhmazg?ocid=mailsignoutmd...

At which point I would point out that Britannia had two crashes in one day... one at Malaga and one at Gatwick and both due (mostly) to weather conditions. Yet people still fly with them every single day

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Nope all wrong... plane found on the sea bed

And as someone is bound to pipe up about the significance of this,...

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/airasia-plane-overshoots-runway-in-philippines/ar-BBhmazg?ocid=mailsignoutmd...

At which point I would point out that Britannia had two crashes in one day... one at Malaga and one at Gatwick and both due (mostly) to weather conditions. Yet people still fly with them every single day

Yep, as we use cars every day, and I know which has the lesser risk.......flying everytime!

[tigers_gonads]

Just found a body of the coast of Borneo wearing a life jacket 

Imo, the A 320 - 200 has being around for donkeys years and combine that with the general penny pinching / maintenance record of most operators, i'm going for massive structural failure caused by being bounced about by the storm he was trying to avoid 

[Lagondanet]

To lighten the mood. Watched a bit of 'Flight' movie last night. Have you seen it?

[05omegav6]

To lighten the mood. Watched a bit of 'Flight' movie last night. Have you seen it?

Very good film, that

Just found a body of the coast of Borneo wearing a life jacket 

Imo, the A 320 - 200 has being around for donkeys years and combine that with the general penny pinching / maintenance record of most operators, i'm going for massive structural failure caused by being bounced about by the storm he was trying to avoid 

Could simply mean that one person was awake and thought a lifejacket might be a good idea...

That Air France crew were so preoccupied on the way down that noone even suggested a Pan Pan declaration, let alone a Mayday shout...

[tigers_gonads]

That Air France crew were so preoccupied on the way down that noone even suggested a Pan Pan declaration, let alone a Mayday shout...


I could never get my head around that bit tbh
At the end of the day, you know you are at height
You know from the seat of your pants that the aircraft hasn't stalled so you push the nose down a little and open the throttles and take stock of the situation.
The captain was supposed to be a highly experienced ex military pilot so I would have thought that his instincts would have taken over, NOT what a few potentially dodgy instrument readings / pitot tube told him 

That saying that the FBW system on the A320 can be overridden ?