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[STEMO]

I Repaired a water leak for a pensioner last year (lead supply pipe under a kitchen extension).
calculated (flow rate after - flow rate before repair x time )
5 Olympic swimming pools worth of water at least (over 4 years at least) 
monitoring for ground movement now 
to be fair, it was a 130 year old common supply pipe, serving 20 houses ,
local supply company had been told about lack of pressure over many years ,sent out workmen ,who failed to find the leak, over many years,
still a common lead supply pipe serving 20 houses because the authority won't replace under lead replacement scheme  and getting 20 home owners to pay is untenable .

Lovely, white water in a morning with all those lovely brain numbing lead minerals in it, t'tough up north, did I tell you it's t'tough up north, what, what, what was I saying, about Wombles.

Hence, all water that I drink at home passes multi-stage filtration, I'm well aware of the p155 poor,  antiquated, water supply infrastructure we pay so much for to use  lead is just one of many contaminants 

Do you wear your tin foil hat whilst drinking it? 

[dave the builder]

I Repaired a water leak for a pensioner last year (lead supply pipe under a kitchen extension).
calculated (flow rate after - flow rate before repair x time )
5 Olympic swimming pools worth of water at least (over 4 years at least) 
monitoring for ground movement now 
to be fair, it was a 130 year old common supply pipe, serving 20 houses ,
local supply company had been told about lack of pressure over many years ,sent out workmen ,who failed to find the leak, over many years,
still a common lead supply pipe serving 20 houses because the authority won't replace under lead replacement scheme  and getting 20 home owners to pay is untenable .

Lovely, white water in a morning with all those lovely brain numbing lead minerals in it, t'tough up north, did I tell you it's t'tough up north, what, what, what was I saying, about Wombles.

Hence, all water that I drink at home passes multi-stage filtration, I'm well aware of the p155 poor,  antiquated, water supply infrastructure we pay so much for to use  lead is just one of many contaminants 

Do you wear your tin foil hat whilst drinking it? 

Tin foil hats offer little to no protection
I wear full bio hazard protection suit (air fed obviously ) at all times
I'm not convinced that black death etc has been eradicated, let alone some of the newer germs
people are still dying of stuff

[Sir Tigger KC]

I have a house that had an old lead supply pipe that served a block of 5 terraced houses.

It was probably leaking for years and Welsh Water started to pressure me to put a new supply in, which I resisted as the leak wasn't on my property.  Eventually after much tooing and froing Welsh Water offered the street connection for free if I agreed to install the new supply pipe on my property which I agreed to as digging up the street was the expensive bit, over £1000 + VAT! 

At a site meeting with a rep from Welsh Water I suggested that he put a meter on the street stopcock to see how bad the leak was, which he did and then calculated that it was losing 19 m3 of water a day!   

It was soon after this that they offered the free connection to the main.   

[Alnico Blue]

I have a house that had an old lead supply pipe that served a block of 5 terraced houses.

It was probably leaking for years and Welsh Water started to pressure me to put a new supply in, which I resisted as the leak wasn't on my property.  Eventually after much tooing and froing Welsh Water offered the street connection for free if I agreed to install the new supply pipe on my property which I agreed to as digging up the street was the expensive bit, over £1000 + VAT! 

At a site meeting with a rep from Welsh Water I suggested that he put a meter on the street stopcock to see how bad the leak was, which he did and then calculated that it was losing 19 m3 of water a day!   

It was soon after this that they offered the free connection to the main.   

    That is one of the very  basic tests any water company would SHOULD carry out to find a supply leak . . . .seems bizarre thay did not do /know that  .   

 Once quantified  . . finding the leak opens up a can of worms where common supplies are involved . Many people think the water company is liable to supply the water into your house  . . .its not  . . .only to your boundary. Which is why almost all OSV's (Outside service valves) are on the public footpath or in the road .

Old terraced blocks of cottages are by far the worst senario, as the lead  supply usually feeds from one end & often runs under the ground in the middle of the  properties , teeing off & rising indivually into  each property via a stopcock.  Finding the exact location of the leak in the ground  is the problem . Even when the supply runs down the side  & across the back of these properties , you then hit the problem that many have extensions built on the back & the supply is under these.

Oh . . . & 19 cM  a day is about 800 Litre per hour . . .or 13 L per min . . .or about a Litre every 5 SECONDS

Surprisingly not that unusual . . . quite common to find a property with low pressure has a supply leak of a litre every 2 seconds . . . .now you would not want to be paying for that if the leak was after your METER !

[Sir Tigger KC]

Old terraced blocks of cottages are by far the worst senario, as the lead  supply usually feeds from one end & often runs under the ground in the middle of the  properties , teeing off & rising indivually into  each property via a stopcock.  Finding the exact location of the leak in the ground  is the problem . Even when the supply runs down the side  & across the back of these properties , you then hit the problem that many have extensions built on the back & the supply is under these.

This is the exact scenario! 

My house is the end terrace and the old lead supply started at the other end where the street stopcock was. The old lead pipe runs down the back of the houses and indeed there are 3 extensions over the top of it.    I think that there were multiple leaks down the line and initially Welsh Water found a major leak by the stopcock so replaced the old brass one with a modern plastic one and a short length of plastic pipe to the boundary.   

They did tell me that the increased pressure was likely to cause further leaks further down which proved to be the case and I now have a nice new supply that runs down the side of my house and I have my own stopcock in the street. 

The houses were built in about 1880, so the old supply pipe lasted for 135 years!    Assuming it was installed when the houses were built. 

[Alnico Blue]

Old terraced blocks of cottages are by far the worst senario, as the lead  supply usually feeds from one end & often runs under the ground in the middle of the  properties , teeing off & rising indivually into  each property via a stopcock.  Finding the exact location of the leak in the ground  is the problem . Even when the supply runs down the side  & across the back of these properties , you then hit the problem that many have extensions built on the back & the supply is under these.

This is the exact scenario! 

My house is the end terrace and the old lead supply started at the other end where the street stopcock was. The old lead pipe runs down the back of the houses and indeed there are 3 extensions over the top of it.    I think that there were multiple leaks down the line and initially Welsh Water found a major leak by the stopcock so replaced the old brass one with a modern plastic one and a short length of plastic pipe to the boundary.   

They did tell me that the increased pressure was likely to cause further leaks further down which proved to be the case and I now have a nice new supply that runs down the side of my house and I have my own stopcock in the street. 

The houses were built in about 1880, so the old supply pipe lasted for 135 years!    Assuming it was installed when the houses were built. 

Thats it . . .a nice single supply .       All properties IMO should be single supply  . . .but the cost to convert on such a massive scale  is frightening. Made worse by the local authories charging utility companies huge sums & penalties to be able to dig the road etc.   

[ronnyd]

Biked past a water meter today, outside a block of flats, that was absolutely pishing water. Anglian Water knew all about it though as they had sprayed blue paint all over it.

[aaronjb]

Biked past a water meter today, outside a block of flats, that was absolutely pishing water. Anglian Water knew all about it though as they had sprayed blue paint all over it.

There was a literal river of water flowing down the local fields recently for several weeks while Anglian struggled to find the time to bother themselves to repair the 18" main... apparently they had to wait for it to 'drain via gravity' before they could fix it...

[STEMO]

At last, the real reason power companies are so keen on smart meters:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5902711/Smart-meters-charge-customers-peak-times.html

[Kevin Wood]

At last, the real reason power companies are so keen on smart meters:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5902711/Smart-meters-charge-customers-peak-times.html

That would actually make some sense - incentives to use off-peak energy are exactly what we need as our grid starts to struggle.

[aaronjb]

At last, the real reason power companies are so keen on smart meters:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5902711/Smart-meters-charge-customers-peak-times.html

That would actually make some sense - incentives to use off-peak energy are exactly what we need as our grid starts to struggle.

Before the rolling blackouts, you mean? 

[Viral_Jim]

At last, the real reason power companies are so keen on smart meters:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5902711/Smart-meters-charge-customers-peak-times.html

Got to love a daily mail headline.

I mean, can you imagine a tariff that charged people different amounts, for the same electric just because of the time?! Inconceivable

[Kevin Wood]

At last, the real reason power companies are so keen on smart meters:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5902711/Smart-meters-charge-customers-peak-times.html

That would actually make some sense - incentives to use off-peak energy are exactly what we need as our grid starts to struggle.

Before the rolling blackouts, you mean? 

Well, yes - if it kicked them into the long grass for another couple of years I'd be up for it.

I'd have to put a padlock on the tumble dryer and teach SWMBO to use the washing line, mind.

[aaronjb]

I mean, can you imagine a tariff that charged people different amounts, for the same electric just because of the time?! Inconceivable

Hold on, I think I can hear the 1970s calling!

I'd have to put a padlock on the tumble dryer and teach SWMBO to use the washing line, mind.

We tried that at the weekend. It rained and everything came in much wetter than it went out - so it got another spin, another wash and a tumble dry (after I'd mopped a half inch of water out of the back seats of the BMW because I drove through the same rain with the roof down...)

[Kevin Wood]

We tried that at the weekend. It rained and everything came in much wetter than it went out - so it got another spin, another wash and a tumble dry (after I'd mopped a half inch of water out of the back seats of the BMW because I drove through the same rain with the roof down...)

You picked the wrong weekend.

Oh, and if the rain comes in you're not going fast enough. Oh, wait! Back seats, you say?