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LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« on: 23 November 2020, 16:33:53 »

All 4 of my Local Shell LPG Station have stopped selling Autogas, thought it might be a local thing untill I searched it, No, Shell have ripped them all out Nationally, so that's that then  >:(

That only really leaves Sainsbury's and Morrisons left now as major sellers, possibly BP if the price is right and you can find one.

If Sainsbury's or Morries decide to follow Shells route, could be a Game Changer in the near future.

Is the end of LPG on the cards so soon. ?  :-\
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #1 on: 23 November 2020, 17:04:44 »

That doesn't bode well... The next barge might have been an lpg contender :-\

Do you have space to have a tank installed?
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #2 on: 23 November 2020, 17:25:12 »

Yes, all the Shell ones went here in the Spring/Summer, and BP about 5 years ago.

Countrywide/Flowgas have stated they aren't repairing failed sites either.

Hence TBE has to go...   ...although the sniffle meant it hung around long enough to need to be MOT'd and insured.


Our nearest LPG filling station is now 25 miles away
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #3 on: 23 November 2020, 17:29:35 »

Shame as I have my eye on a nice looking 4.2ltr supercharged V8 Range Rover with an LPG kit.  ::)  :-\
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #4 on: 23 November 2020, 17:33:14 »

Shame as I have my eye on a nice looking 4.2ltr supercharged V8 Range Rover with an LPG kit.  ::)  :-\
Unless you can afford to run it on petrol, I'd give it a wide berth.


With Shell, BP and Countrywide/Flogas out of the picture, that leaves next to none for day to day filling.  The supermarkets will follow suit quickly not methinks.
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #5 on: 23 November 2020, 17:45:14 »

Shame as I have my eye on a nice looking 4.2ltr supercharged V8 Range Rover with an LPG kit.  ::)  :-\
Unless you can afford to run it on petrol, I'd give it a wide berth.


With Shell, BP and Countrywide/Flogas out of the picture, that leaves next to none for day to day filling.  The supermarkets will follow suit quickly not methinks.

Yes seems that way TB...  :(

There's a couple of indy garages around here that sell it, but if the big players are pulling out I'd imagine they'll follow soonish...  :-\
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #6 on: 23 November 2020, 18:15:45 »

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, or my expectations of LPG being around about the same period as petrol and diesel before we're all forced down the electric route was an oversight. As we know, LPG is a by-product of oil, so as long as there's sucking oil up for petrol and diesel use there will be plenty of LPG, Propane and Butane kicking around, in fact there be so much of All of the stuff floating around they won't be able to give it away in a few years time. Is it really down for market demand at the moment?

According to Shell, the decision to pull the plug was down to cost of maintenance of the pumps vs market demand, or have they just got their pumps in the wrong places and not been looking at the trends over the years, all I know is around here or if I venture into East London for Fill Ups I am almost certainly queuing for my turn for the LPG pump.

Morrisons worry me, as most of their pumps are quite old and always breaking down or going out service, so they could be the next victim to fall, Sainsbury's have fitted fairly new pumps recently so hopefully they will want to see a return on their investment but who knows.
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #7 on: 23 November 2020, 18:31:11 »

According to Shell, the decision to pull the plug was down to cost of maintenance of the pumps vs market demand
Shell's head office told us it was to make way for newer forms of low emissions options, which I took to mean chargers.  Not that I imagine they will be allowed to fit chargers so close to petrol vapours....


I suspect demand has dropped, as does anyone make a dual fuel car now, as hybrids probably fill that gap now.
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #8 on: 23 November 2020, 18:31:44 »

Consider this for the availability of LPG: how many people do you know with LPG cars that aren't on this forum? How many cars were sold new as LPG? The old V8 RR Classics and Discoveries plus the other old barges that were a big part of the market are largely gone.


So the market for LPG has dried up and the retailers have better uses for the money to keep the supply going.


Just be glad you didn't 'invest' in a hydrogen powered car......
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #9 on: 23 November 2020, 18:32:02 »

We have a new Saino's petrol station opening on Wednesday.  Doesn't look like they have fitted any LPG pumps :(
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #10 on: 23 November 2020, 19:18:00 »

The trouble is that LPG never really caught on and became mainstream... sadly!  :(

Friends still refer to my Omega as That old Vauxhall you had that ran on calor gas, chip fat or some oppsin weird shit...  ::)           Bastards!  ;D
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #11 on: 23 November 2020, 23:50:46 »

Consider this for the availability of LPG: how many people do you know with LPG cars that aren't on this forum? How many cars were sold new as LPG? The old V8 RR Classics and Discoveries plus the other old barges that were a big part of the market are largely gone.


So the market for LPG has dried up and the retailers have better uses for the money to keep the supply going.


Just be glad you didn't 'invest' in a hydrogen powered car......
Whilst I don't disagree, my understanding is that the development of BioLPG was supposed to be the New Kid on the Block in terms of us reaching our Green requirements in the future.
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #12 on: 24 November 2020, 00:00:57 »

It was - about 25 years ago. Promotion of any kind of fossil fuel is now completely taboo.
We have "progressed" you see.  ::)
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #13 on: 24 November 2020, 00:05:13 »

LPG conversion was being touted as a serious option for diesel taxis, particularly in the West Midlands. Some Edinburgh owners took it up and are now struggling to find suppliers after Shell pulled the plug.
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Re: LPG at Shell Forecourts (Autogas)
« Reply #14 on: 24 November 2020, 01:03:45 »

It was - about 25 years ago. Promotion of any kind of fossil fuel is now completely taboo.
We have "progressed" you see.  ::)
Yea but BioLPG. It’s renewable and sustainable, supposedly.  :-\

Calor Gas reckon about 2p a Litre more to produce the stuff and by 20XX, can't remember the exact date now, All Butane / Propane will be 100% Bio, it's making big noises in the Alternative Heating over Electric apperantly.
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