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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #30 on: 23 June 2020, 22:44:04 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 23 June 2020, 19:37:57
For example, if Lewis said nothing, and became known for actively doing charity work, then he would be genuinely present as a talented driver who was also actually a decent chap.

Instead, inspite of being talented, he presents as a bit of a knob.

He has done that too. He has always helped various charities, but has now set up a foundation to help advance diversity in the F1 industry.
This goes against my natural grain, because I dont tend to believe in positive discrimination. However, when he says that he is almost the only non white face in an industry of many thousands of people, I can sort of see where he is coming from.
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #31 on: 23 June 2020, 22:55:42 »
Quote from: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 23 June 2020, 22:44:04
However, when he says that he is almost the only non white face in an industry of many thousands of people, I can sort of see where he is coming from.

Historically, race fans have tended to come from the white community. Hamilton showed that, if you have talent, then it doesn't matter what colour you are. So, if a black driver (like Bubba Wallace in Nascar) shows talent, then colour is no block to reaching the top tier. HOWEVER, the fact that there are few blacks, relatively, in F1 and racing in general, does not reflect racism, merely the fact that the sport does not have a widespread black fan base such as football, basketball, boxing, athletics etc. The problem is that Hamilton is trying to equate a perceived lack of black participation in motor sports as discriminatory – which it clearly isn't.   
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #32 on: 23 June 2020, 23:01:34 »
Statistically, he fairly represents the proportion along with the Indian chap, Sutil?

If you want to play the diversity card, then there should be significantly more women on the grid... But don't let's confuse genuine equality with minority equality.  :-X
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #33 on: 23 June 2020, 23:55:47 »
Quote from: Migalot on 23 June 2020, 22:55:42
Quote from: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 23 June 2020, 22:44:04
However, when he says that he is almost the only non white face in an industry of many thousands of people, I can sort of see where he is coming from.

Historically, race fans have tended to come from the white community. Hamilton showed that, if you have talent, then it doesn't matter what colour you are. So, if a black driver (like Bubba Wallace in Nascar) shows talent, then colour is no block to reaching the top tier. HOWEVER, the fact that there are few blacks, relatively, in F1 and racing in general, does not reflect racism, merely the fact that the sport does not have a widespread black fan base such as football, basketball, boxing, athletics etc. The problem is that Hamilton is trying to equate a perceived lack of black participation in motor sports as discriminatory – which it clearly isn't.   

Historically yes, but Im sure there are now millions of black fans due to Hamilton. Dont forget he is much more of a popular, iconic figure globally than he is in his own country, which I find pretty strange tbh.
The question has to be asked, if a white British driver achieved what he achieved how popular would he be ?
Im not sure its about his personality, as the only personality trait Schumcher ever displayed was undisguised arrogance oozing from every pore, yet he seemed very popular in the UK. Although I never understood that either.
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #34 on: 24 June 2020, 09:17:27 »
That's a bit like saying white people only listen to Reggae because of UB40...  ::)
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #35 on: 24 June 2020, 10:23:05 »
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #36 on: 24 June 2020, 10:51:09 »
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 24 June 2020, 10:23:05
Sorry...  :)
Well, it can't all be his fault, because I'm pretty sure that whatever it is is all my fault.
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #37 on: 24 June 2020, 11:34:06 »
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Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 24 June 2020, 10:23:05
Sorry...  :)
Well, it can't all be his fault, because I'm pretty sure that whatever it is is all my fault.
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #38 on: 24 June 2020, 13:14:20 »
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 24 June 2020, 10:23:05
Sorry...  :)

May I take this opportunity to apologise for being born white. I deserve to be strung up by my balls. ;)
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #39 on: 24 June 2020, 13:16:56 »
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Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 24 June 2020, 10:23:05
Sorry...  :)

May I take this opportunity to apologise for being born white. I deserve to be strung up by my balls. ;)

You deserve to be strung up by your balls for your miss deeds, not because of the colour of your skin!  ;D
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #40 on: 24 June 2020, 13:20:27 »
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 24 June 2020, 13:16:56
Quote from: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 June 2020, 13:14:20
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 24 June 2020, 10:23:05
Sorry...  :)

May I take this opportunity to apologise for being born white. I deserve to be strung up by my balls. ;)

You deserve to be strung up by your balls for your miss deeds, not because of the colour of your skin!  ;D

I can name several members of the opposite sex who will agree with you. ;D ;D
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #41 on: 24 June 2020, 14:17:03 »
I'm sure Miss Deeds will gladly oblige. For a fee :D
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #42 on: 24 June 2020, 16:50:14 »
Ha ha that’s great :y
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #43 on: 05 July 2020, 13:57:20 »
Reading comments on the web, it seems Hamilton has dug himself into a deep hole and keeps digging.

He has really pi**ed off a lot of his fans with his virtue signalling.  ::)
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Re: Hamilton
« Reply #44 on: 05 July 2020, 16:01:15 »
Unfortunately, I have to agree with that. He is either extremely naive or the worng people are whispering in his ear.
I think Niki Lauda would have brought his feet back to planet earth if he was still around.
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