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2.2 running rough
« on: 29 August 2006, 13:25:11 »
Hi all
Just been to look at a mates 2.2 that apparently suddenly just started to run rough.
Well he said it was 2.2....its a facelift, V reg, but says 2.0 on the back of it.
Shuda popped the bonnet to have a look......but in my rush i didnt.

Any way put my cheapo tech2 on it and it came up with P0351.

Which is Ignition coil 1 high input/incorrect signal.

Hearing it run.....it certainly sounds like its running on 3 cylinders....
So im assuning its the coil pack  :-/

Didnt like the odd cracking noise coming from it tho'
Would a faulty coil pack make the engine produce this extra odd noise as well?

Did cross my mind the cambelt might have jumped and this cracking noise is the tensioner bearing.....but i wouldnt have thought i would be getting P0351....its not an old code....coz i cleared it and it came straight back.

Any ideas/ suggestions?

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Re: 2.2 running rough
« Reply #1 on: 29 August 2006, 13:29:44 »
Well if I'm right if it is a 2.0 it would have a dis pack not the coil.

What does the car idle like.

Could even be dodgy leads.

If the engine was say 1 tooth out it would sound like a tractor but not as loud imo.
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Re: 2.2 running rough
« Reply #2 on: 29 August 2006, 13:32:53 »
The DIS pack on TheBoy's V6 project did't make any extra noise, just made it run like crap (on about 4 cylinders..)

Tbh i have not seen a 2.2 in a V plate, seen it in W's but not a V.

Most likely its a 2.0...
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Re: 2.2 running rough
« Reply #3 on: 29 August 2006, 13:33:35 »
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Well if I'm right if it is a 2.0 it would have a dis pack not the coil.

What does the car idle like.

Not sure, my 2.2 has a coil not DIS
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« Reply #4 on: 29 August 2006, 13:35:12 »
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Well if I'm right if it is a 2.0 it would have a dis pack not the coil.

What does the car idle like.

Not sure, my 2.2 has a coil not DIS

Could well be a 2.2 then if thats the case.

Wonders whether its had an engine replacement.
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Re: 2.2 running rough
« Reply #5 on: 29 August 2006, 14:33:32 »
a 2.0 will have dis, 2.2 is coil per plug. on a v, it is most likely a 2.0
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Re: 2.2 running rough
« Reply #6 on: 29 August 2006, 14:52:44 »
1st thing to do is check for water, oil in the plug wells. If it's running on 3, this could be the cause.
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« Reply #7 on: 29 August 2006, 17:46:51 »
Correctomundo !!!

2.2 is coil per plug . All convieniently packaged into one nice long lump that just sits on top of the plugs.

Slide the EcoTec black cover backwards on rocker cover, lift out, and you will be faced with the coil pack.

Disconnect the loom at the back of the coil pack, and prise off the unit, can be a bit of a git sometimes, as the unit is well seated on to the plugs underneath .
If i re-call correctly about £70 off of EBay for a new one, dont go to a VX dealer as there expensive !

And whats wrong with having a 2.2 on a V plate ! Mines 2.2 facelift on a V !

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Re: 2.2 running rough
« Reply #8 on: 29 August 2006, 17:51:18 »
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Hi all
Just been to look at a mates 2.2 that apparently suddenly just started to run rough.
Well he said it was 2.2....its a facelift, V reg, but says 2.0 on the back of it.


2.0 part could it have been a 2.0 and had a 2.2 engine fitted.  :)

Hence doubting Dis Pack or Coil
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Re: 2.2 running rough
« Reply #9 on: 29 August 2006, 18:01:39 »
Hey Taxi Driver, if you was a REALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY REALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY good friend, you could pop off your coil pack and try it on your mates !!!

Presuming of course it does have a 2.2 engine fitted !

 ;D

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Re: 2.2 running rough
« Reply #10 on: 29 August 2006, 18:46:14 »
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Hey Taxi Driver, if you was a REALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY REALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY good friend, you could pop off your coil pack and try it on your mates !!!

Presuming of course it does have a 2.2 engine fitted !

 ;D

Mark

Thanks for the replies quys  :)

Mark....that was going to be my next step  ;) asumming it does have a 2.2
If its a 2.0, i'll wash my hands of it  ;D

Just wondered about the not very nice noise......
Also apparently it was running fine then this happened.....no warning....it also now keeps cutting out when idling....
So if it is a 2.2 changing the coil pack would be a good idea given the code i read from it?

Dunno what the mileage is but its bound to be high.....it was used as a Taxi  ::)

If i swap em over and it cures it.....i'll send him vx dealer for a new one...only £100+vat....bargain  ;D

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« Reply #11 on: 29 August 2006, 18:58:28 »
Nice one TD, i see your a good friend indeed.

But a TOP friend would let him keep the coil pack, and make him buy you the new one  ;D

Hope it does cure his problem, and also hoping that the noise you can hear is electrical cracking from a coil breaking down or shorting to earth


Good Luck mate

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« Reply #12 on: 29 August 2006, 19:08:01 »
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Nice one TD, i see your a good friend indeed.

But a TOP friend would let him keep the coil pack, and make him buy you the new one  ;D

Hope it does cure his problem, and also hoping that the noise you can hear is electrical cracking from a coil breaking down or shorting to earth


Good Luck mate

Mark

I did think of that....me having the new coil pack  ;D

And actually thats a good point.....the noise im hearing maybe electrical...but it is quite loud  :-/

Will let you know tomorrow when i have a look at the engine.....2.2 i'll have a go  :)
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Re: 2.2 running rough
« Reply #13 on: 29 August 2006, 19:43:01 »
Still favour water or oil in the plug wells.....
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« Reply #14 on: 29 August 2006, 20:05:48 »
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Still favour water or oil in the plug wells.....

2.2's dont do that  :o .....ur mixing the prob up with totally unreliable V6's AA  ;D
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