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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Tony H on 26 April 2008, 19:50:59
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Just been to my local Tesco to see if the mayhem caused by numptys panicking over fuel shortages had died down. >:( It had so got some petrol and went to pay. I noticed that it had gone up 3p per ltr and asked the cashier when did the price increase. She replied we got a call at 2pm telling us to put the price up however they have not had a delivery today so the increase is on old stock. Are Tesco cashing in on the Grangemouth situation or am I missing something. :-/
N.b word your answers carefully
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Yes they are. The garages around by me have all done the same thing, so I don't think it is limited to Tesco.
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doesnt sound like tesco,s ;D i went to my 2 local garages today and was amazed to find one had ran out of fuel and the other one had a very long queue,theres nowt as daft as folk. ::)
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I think they are profiteering as well.
Question is, once the dust settles and itsd all resolved and the country reverts to running on cars on fumes, will they reduce prices again to entice folks to again top up their tanks when they can?
Didn't think so either..... >:(
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Just been to my local Tesco to see if the mayhem caused by numptys panicking over fuel shortages had died down. >:( It had so got some petrol and went to pay. I noticed that it had gone up 3p per ltr and asked the cashier when did the price increase. She replied we got a call at 2pm telling us to put the price up however they have not had a delivery today so the increase is on old stock. Are Tesco cashing in on the Grangemouth situation or am I missing something. :-/
N.b word your answers carefully
It is a case in our 'Free Market' economy that prices will find the right level to match supply and demand :'(! Demand is high and supply is threatened....in retailing that means your prices can be raised! :'( It is as simple as that, and the people who are panicking are doing us no favours whatsoever!
All petrol retailers, not just Tesco, will therefore be charging what they believe their stock is worth in relation to other dealers. But, let us not forget who is making the most out of these prices...the Government led by Gordon Brown! >:( >:( >:(
Lizzie Zoom (40 years in retailing)
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I think they are profiteering as well.
..... >:(
Similar subject there was an independant through your way that put the price up to 149p a litre earlier this week....Fife way i think ?
Now thats profiteering,,
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taking the p155,more like.its beyond supply and demand they have the motorist by the shorties and they know it. >:(......when was the last time we had a price war between the oil companies,the word cartel springs to mind
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I think they are profiteering as well.
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Similar subject there was an independant through your way that put the price up to 149p a litre earlier this week....Fife way i think ?
Now thats profiteering,,
Yup, Rix garage down on the prom at kirkcaldy....
Blamed 'computer error' that once a reporter from the Daily Ranger stuck their neb in, instantly dropped by 20 PPL or more....
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Just been to my local foreign garage to get some snacks and the petrol was 108.9 but diesel was 122.9 :-? :-? Tell me again what costs more to make???????????????????????????????????????????????
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Just been to my local foreign garage to get some snacks and the petrol was 108.9 but diesel was 122.9 :-? :-? Tell me again what costs more to make???????????????????????????????????????????????
Diesel costs more to make than petrol.
Petrol is cheaper these days, it used to be the way that diesel was cheaper, but now diesel is more expensive.
They have had to make diesel cleaner, less smokey, to do so they have added loads of stuff to make it cleaner.
At the end of the day, fair play to them, there is higher demand than usual in a product, so they put the price up.
Its the same with anything else!
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But remember the good old days when diesel was LOADS cheaper than petrol and diesel cars were few and far between....
Manufacturers produced diesel cars to utilise this wonderfull 'much cheapness'....
Then successive Governments introduced increasing tax levies on diesel fuel until the grossly extortionate price differentials we see today...
Cost of production of either fuel type is basically the same - it all comes from the same root stock in the first place....
cack..... >:(
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Most garages my way are charging 108/109ppl for unleaded, 115/116ppl for diesel....
Tho i did go thro a village today that the garage was charging 125ppl for diesel :o........didnt see the petrol price.
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But remember the good old days when diesel was LOADS cheaper than petrol and diesel cars were few and far between....
Manufacturers produced diesel cars to utilise this wonderfull 'much cheapness'....
Then successive Governments introduced increasing tax levies on diesel fuel until the grossly extortionate price differentials we see today...
Cost of production of either fuel type is basically the same - it all comes from the same root stock in the first place....
cack..... >:(
Agree with yer there Broocie........why am i paying 54ppl for lpg when years ago the refineries used to burn it off to get rid of it >:(
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But remember the good old days when diesel was LOADS cheaper than petrol and diesel cars were few and far between....
Manufacturers produced diesel cars to utilise this wonderfull 'much cheapness'....
Then successive Governments introduced increasing tax levies on diesel fuel until the grossly extortionate price differentials we see today...
Cost of production of either fuel type is basically the same - it all comes from the same root stock in the first place....
cack..... >:(
Agree with yer there Broocie........why am i paying 54ppl for lpg when years ago the refineries used to burn it off to get rid of it >:(
OOOOh low blow kick us all while where down with empty wallets. ;)
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But remember the good old days when diesel was LOADS cheaper than petrol and diesel cars were few and far between....
Happy days! ;).......except for those awful blokes down`the pub. whom would regale you with apocryphal stories of their diesel car`s 'incredible' mpg! :(
Now it seems they`ve all switched to LPG ;D
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But remember the good old days when diesel was LOADS cheaper than petrol and diesel cars were few and far between....
Manufacturers produced diesel cars to utilise this wonderfull 'much cheapness'....
Then successive Governments introduced increasing tax levies on diesel fuel until the grossly extortionate price differentials we see today...
Cost of production of either fuel type is basically the same - it all comes from the same root stock in the first place....
cack..... >:(
Agree with yer there Broocie........why am i paying 54ppl for lpg when years ago the refineries used to burn it off to get rid of it >:(
OOOOh low blow kick us all while where down with empty wallets. ;)
[Scotty mode]
ye canny change the laws o' physics Cap'n....
[/Scotty mode]
:D
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But remember the good old days when diesel was LOADS cheaper than petrol and diesel cars were few and far between....
Manufacturers produced diesel cars to utilise this wonderfull 'much cheapness'....
Then successive Governments introduced increasing tax levies on diesel fuel until the grossly extortionate price differentials we see today...
Cost of production of either fuel type is basically the same - it all comes from the same root stock in the first place....
cack..... >:(
Agree with yer there Broocie........why am i paying 54ppl for lpg when years ago the refineries used to burn it off to get rid of it >:(
OOOOh low blow kick us all while where down with empty wallets. ;)
Ummm no it wasnt meant to be :)
My Omega 2.2 on lpg does 15mpg in town.......hardly economical......
Hence why with lpg costs now and the big hike in car tax.....it'll be up for sale shortly and im going back to diesel :y
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But remember the good old days when diesel was LOADS cheaper than petrol and diesel cars were few and far between....
Manufacturers produced diesel cars to utilise this wonderfull 'much cheapness'....
Then successive Governments introduced increasing tax levies on diesel fuel until the grossly extortionate price differentials we see today...
Cost of production of either fuel type is basically the same - it all comes from the same root stock in the first place....
cack..... >:(
Agree with yer there Broocie........why am i paying 54ppl for lpg when years ago the refineries used to burn it off to get rid of it >:(
OOOOh low blow kick us all while where down with empty wallets. ;)
Ummm no it wasnt meant to be :)
My Omega 2.2 on lpg does 15mpg in town.......hardly economical......
Hence why with lpg costs now and the big hike in car tax.....it'll be up for sale shortly and im going back to diesel :y
bear in mind that, way back when TD was only a preschool bus pass, LPG was 20-odd pence per litre.... ;) ;D
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There`s a small roadside-garage in my nearby town, which sells Red Diesel at the pump on the forecourt [size=9](strictly for jerry-can filling for farm/plant/generator use only)[/size]...the price?: 38 pence per litre! :o
The garage owner says he makes a good profit margin on Red at that price.....and the price for Red hardly ever varies.
How can the DERV/Red Diesel price differential be justified; for something with virtually the same basic-formulation. ::)
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114 near me for unleaded.
i hope brown dies a orrible slow death, run out of petrol in the desert ;D ;D ;D
richie
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But remember the good old days when diesel was LOADS cheaper than petrol and diesel cars were few and far between....
Manufacturers produced diesel cars to utilise this wonderfull 'much cheapness'....
Then successive Governments introduced increasing tax levies on diesel fuel until the grossly extortionate price differentials we see today...
Cost of production of either fuel type is basically the same - it all comes from the same root stock in the first place....
cack..... >:(
Agree with yer there Broocie........why am i paying 54ppl for lpg when years ago the refineries used to burn it off to get rid of it >:(
OOOOh low blow kick us all while where down with empty wallets. ;)
Ummm no it wasnt meant to be :)
My Omega 2.2 on lpg does 15mpg in town.......hardly economical......
Hence why with lpg costs now and the big hike in car tax.....it'll be up for sale shortly and im going back to diesel :y
bear in mind that, way back when TD was only a preschool bus pass, LPG was 20-odd pence per litre.... ;) ;D
There wont be much difference between price/economy soon as diesel keeps making a larger gap between petrol and as already said lpg is no longer as cheap as it used to be. We all goin electric then until the goverment decide to charge us more for that.
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There`s a small roadside-garage in my nearby town, which sells Red Diesel at the pump on the forecourt [size=9](strictly for jerry-can filling for farm/plant/generator use only)[/size]...the price?: 38 pence per litre! :o
The garage owner says he makes a good profit margin on Red at that price.....and the price for Red hardly ever varies.
How can the DERV/Red Diesel price differential be justified; for something with virtually the same basic-formulation. ::)
its because the tax rate hardly ever changes.
not enough profit in it.
root stock fuels, whlst increasing at barrell prices almost daily, is a core product. forecourt fuels increase revenues.
and that is completely irrespective of whichsoever government is sitting in the big seats at any given time.... ;)
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there is a way to take the dye out of red diesel :-X :-X
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there is a way to take the dye out of red diesel :-X :-X
but not the chemical trace elements.... ;)
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Shopped @ Morries today so slung £30 unleaded in @ £107.9 per ltr.
I think the reason diesel has shot up in price has nothing to do with car drivers but HGV's. Imagine how it hurts the hauliers.
Another excuse for my gaffer not to give us a pay rise. :(
P.S. If i had a diesel i'd invest in jerry cans & run it on cherry! :D
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i knew a bloke who ran a small haulage fleet on red a few years back,he got caught and the fine had lots of noughts on the end,it put him out of business.
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Shopped @ Morries today so slung £30 unleaded in @ £107.9 per ltr.
I think the reason diesel has shot up in price has nothing to do with car drivers but HGV's. Imagine how it hurts the hauliers.
Another excuse for my gaffer not to give us a pay rise. :(
P.S. If i had a diesel i'd invest in jerry cans & run it on cherry! :D
as soon as you are stopped and caught, ist 500 smackers...
Thats before they calculate how much cherry has been through your pipes over whatever lengthy period they can prove....
It is legalised pillage and not worth the candle....
If captured, it would make your 5 year plan a thing of the past..... ;)
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Shopped @ Morries today so slung £30 unleaded in @ £107.9 per ltr.
I think the reason diesel has shot up in price has nothing to do with car drivers but HGV's. Imagine how it hurts the hauliers.
Another excuse for my gaffer not to give us a pay rise. :(
P.S. If i had a diesel i'd invest in jerry cans & run it on cherry! :D
as soon as you are stopped and caught, ist 500 smackers...
Thats before they calculate how much cherry has been through your pipes over whatever lengthy period they can prove....
It is legalised pillage and not worth the candle....
If captured, it would make your 5 year plan a thing of the past..... ;)
You forgot the vehicle forfeiture thing as well! :'(
Regular H.M.C & E roadside checkpoints, spot checks in car parks and use of monitoring 'technology' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_dyes make the completely illegal road-use of red diesel just not worth the risk.....`though it DOES still go on hereabouts. :-X
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The 500 squids is the minimum.
General thing is the holding of the vehicle to ransom until the cold hard cash (no cheques or credit cards...) is paid then the vehicle is released.
I've seen 6 figure sums calculated ( :o ) and fleets confiscated - and they are tri axle artics, not wee Transits....
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But remember the good old days when diesel was LOADS cheaper than petrol and diesel cars were few and far between....
Manufacturers produced diesel cars to utilise this wonderfull 'much cheapness'....
Then successive Governments introduced increasing tax levies on diesel fuel until the grossly extortionate price differentials we see today...
Cost of production of either fuel type is basically the same - it all comes from the same root stock in the first place....
cack..... >:(
Agree with yer there Broocie........why am i paying 54ppl for lpg when years ago the refineries used to burn it off to get rid of it >:(
48p at Calor today
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I only meant the car. What's the likelihood of the tank getting dipped?
Also we have one particular unit fitted with tipping gear that runs coal around the dock for a few months but can be "down the road" for a while. When doing road work it does run derv but cherry on the dock. It'll always be stained. I do'nt drive it as i'm full time road & have my own unit which does no dock work but said unit is on our O licence & tested.
How would it stand if the tank was dipped on the road? :-/