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[Varche]

US and Australia are limiting entry.

Whole cities in China are locked down.

How does that work apart from people just stay home.

If lock down came to a town/city near you, how do you keep getting water, food, electric, gas? How do you pay for it? There are so many issues that will arise after only a few weeks.

Anyone know?

[Doctor Gollum]

Australia has always been a bit sensitive when it comes to border controls, and the US are only building a wall next to Mexico so that they don't have to shoot refugees.

There are whole cities in China with no residents.

Exactly this... if after two weeks they haven't contracted anything, then presumably they can go back to the factory, if they have displayed symptoms, then presumably they will either be given treatment or have succumbed.

Utilities get delivered automatically. We'll, they do here, in spite of Brexit . For food, most grocery shops deliver, so dumping stuff on the step and running away will continue. Direct debits and cards, much like normal.

Much like SARS, this will work its way through and in a couple of months, the next big thing will take over. Some will survive and some won't but don't expect roadkill and fish to be on the same market stall ever again.

[Doctor Gollum]

That was obviously tongue firmly in cheek, but unless you are Chinese, I wouldn't be unduly worried...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

304 deaths, all Chinese, out of 14,600 global cases. And that  means 304 fatalities from a population of 1,400,000,000 Chinese.

Or 304 out of 7,800,000,000 globally.

Or 73/7000000ths of the Chinese population.

There's an awfully large amount of scaremongering going on in the media.

[Lizzie Zoom]

That was obviously tongue firmly in cheek, but unless you are Chinese, I wouldn't be unduly worried...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

304 deaths, all Chinese, out of 14,600 global cases. And that  means 304 fatalities from a population of 1,400,000,000 Chinese.

Or 304 out of 7,800,000,000 globally.

Or 73/7000000ths of the Chinese population.

There's an awfully large amount of scaremongering going on in the media.

Isn't that the truth!

[Kevin Wood]

Whole cities in China are locked down.

How does that work apart from people just stay home.

..

In China? I would imagine it's something along the lines of "Stay at home or get mown down by a tank." 

[Varche]

Some information here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51305566

[Doctor Gollum]

See, hysterical over reaction.

No different to panic buying milk on Christmas Eve.

And for the record, not that the Beeb will bother reporting it, nearly 100 more people have been cured than have died.

And we're still only talking about an infintisimally small percentage of the population. Even if you were only talking about the population of Wuhan...

[Sir Tigger KC]

There was a fatality in the Philippines today. 

[Doctor Gollum]

There was a fatality in the Philippines today. 

Also Chinese...

[aaronjb]

See, hysterical over reaction.

No different to panic buying milk on Christmas Eve.

And for the record, not that the Beeb will bother reporting it, nearly 100 more people have been cured than have died.

And we're still only talking about an infintisimally small percentage of the population. Even if you were only talking about the population of Wuhan...

But but, I'm sure in the other thread Rods just told us that 5 billion people will die in the next 28 days or some such.. which one of you is right!? 

[Varche]

Chinese stock market re opens today after their lunar new year break. Down 9% , about 460 billion.

[Lizzie Zoom]

See, hysterical over reaction.

No different to panic buying milk on Christmas Eve.

And for the record, not that the Beeb will bother reporting it, nearly 100 more people have been cured than have died.

And we're still only talking about an infintisimally small percentage of the population. Even if you were only talking about the population of Wuhan...

But but, I'm sure in the other thread Rods just told us that 5 billion people will die in the next 28 days or some such.. which one of you is right!? 

No, he actually suggested 5 billion will be INFECTED within the next 28 days, so on current mortality rates the actual number of deaths will be no where near those witnessed in recent or, especially, distant history.

Remember the worst ever as a percentage of deaths of an entire population was the Black Death of 1347 to around 1351 across Europe was 50 million, or approximately 60% of Europe's entire population.  In England especially whole villages were wiped out with the tiny number of survivors "moving on".

This virus is not going to have anything like the effect of the Black Death, as we have modern medical science and facilities to counteract the impact, with even now a far greater degree of control of the movements of peoples across countries than, in certainly 1348, when it swept into England, uncontrolled, misunderstood and absolutely deadly with no human answers to it.

So, as DG is saying and I back, stop panicking!

[Entwood]

There is also the matter that the Great Plague was a bacterial infection transmitted by the bites of infected rat fleas ... so a totally different type of pathogen with a totally different transmission vector.

The vast majority of folks with viral infections "self recover" as their systems kick in with antibodies ... those with pre-existing weaknesses are the ones at risk ... so again, totally different to the Great Plague .......

However, never let the truth ...........   

[aaronjb]

So, as DG is saying and I back, stop panicking!

I'm not panicking - I'm not even really thinking about it - because there's no use panicking about something you can do absolutely SFA about  I mean, short of cocooning myself in my house and living off the pets once we run out of food

I do have to fly to the US in March, which means transit through some major hubs (Heathrow, Seattle), both of which have significant travel from Asian countries.. but even then, there's nowt I can do about it! I do usually catch every bug going, though, so I'm probably done for already

[Doctor Gollum]

Perhaps this will help visualise the scale of the actual problem...

Three hundred and sixty two fatalities.

Five hundred and twenty three recovered.

Seventeen thousand, four hundred and eight cases.

Eleven million people live in the city where it started.

One billion, four hundred million people living in China.

Seven billion, eight hundred million people on earth.

I wouldn't wish anyone catch, let alone die from this, in the same way that would rather my mum not catch pneumonia whenever we have a really cold winter, but that's the way the dice of life rolls.

At as a final observation...

Ten times more children were injured or killed on the UK road network between April and June 2018, than people globally have died from this virus. 3620 vs 364