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Omega General Help / Re: Flywheel
« on: 11 March 2015, 19:43:32 »
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Omega General Help / Re: Flywheel
« on: 11 March 2015, 17:25:21 »
Hi again James
Must admit I’ve never asked anyone to help me fix a car before, I suppose I can’t help thinking I’d have a bit of a bloody cheek asking really, the two guys you’ve suggested I’ve never even had any dialogue with, having said that I guess I’m not on the forum all that often.
It looks as though its a fair distance between you and me and if I do it at my place it would have to be on my driveway as I can’t get the car into the garage as it’s full, not that I haven't worked on them outside before, it's just if it's throwing it down I tend to leave it until it stops.
I suppose at the end of the day I could do most of the stripping its mauling the gearbox and bell housing off and then getting it back on which I couldn’t do now.
Must admit I’ve never asked anyone to help me fix a car before, I suppose I can’t help thinking I’d have a bit of a bloody cheek asking really, the two guys you’ve suggested I’ve never even had any dialogue with, having said that I guess I’m not on the forum all that often.
It looks as though its a fair distance between you and me and if I do it at my place it would have to be on my driveway as I can’t get the car into the garage as it’s full, not that I haven't worked on them outside before, it's just if it's throwing it down I tend to leave it until it stops.
I suppose at the end of the day I could do most of the stripping its mauling the gearbox and bell housing off and then getting it back on which I couldn’t do now.
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Omega General Help / Re: Flywheel
« on: 11 March 2015, 16:27:52 »
Hi Mark
Thanks for the lowdown mate it’s much appreciated, at least I can now go ahead and order a clutch, well when I’ve shopped around.
I was rather hoping to get away with the existing flywheel as it isn’t making any noises.
I have to admit I’ve never had to replace a flywheel in all my years of motoring having said that they’ve always been solid ones and the price for the dual ones, well what can I say the Vauxhall agents say how much they are as though they are a bit of back pocket loose change.
Thanks again
Clive
Thanks for the lowdown mate it’s much appreciated, at least I can now go ahead and order a clutch, well when I’ve shopped around.
I was rather hoping to get away with the existing flywheel as it isn’t making any noises.
I have to admit I’ve never had to replace a flywheel in all my years of motoring having said that they’ve always been solid ones and the price for the dual ones, well what can I say the Vauxhall agents say how much they are as though they are a bit of back pocket loose change.
Thanks again
Clive
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Omega General Help / Re: Flywheel
« on: 11 March 2015, 16:11:26 »
Hello James
Thank you for your quick reply, I wish there was someone near where I live who could help, I’m in Stafford.
I have done clutches in the past, but I think I would be struggling to try and do it on my own now, times catching up I'm not as fit as I once was.
Cheers
Clive
Thank you for your quick reply, I wish there was someone near where I live who could help, I’m in Stafford.
I have done clutches in the past, but I think I would be struggling to try and do it on my own now, times catching up I'm not as fit as I once was.
Cheers
Clive
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Omega General Help / Flywheel
« on: 11 March 2015, 13:58:34 »
Hi Guys
Can anyone shed some light, I think I’m in line for a replacement clutch, which I will buy myself and then get a garage to fit it.
Obviously I don’t want to cock it up and get the wrong clutch as it needs to be compatible with the existing flywheel.
Can anyone out there tell me, does the Omega 2.5TD year 2000 have a dual mass or a solid one fitted as standard?
I’ve got a part number for the flywheel from a main agent 90578064 but they can’t tell from their pictures if it’s solid or dual mass
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By the way the price for a new flywheel from the main Vauxhall agents is £618.00 + Vat, so that's a mere £741.60 as of 11/03/2015.
Thanks for any help
Clive
Can anyone shed some light, I think I’m in line for a replacement clutch, which I will buy myself and then get a garage to fit it.
Obviously I don’t want to cock it up and get the wrong clutch as it needs to be compatible with the existing flywheel.
Can anyone out there tell me, does the Omega 2.5TD year 2000 have a dual mass or a solid one fitted as standard?
I’ve got a part number for the flywheel from a main agent 90578064 but they can’t tell from their pictures if it’s solid or dual mass
.By the way the price for a new flywheel from the main Vauxhall agents is £618.00 + Vat, so that's a mere £741.60 as of 11/03/2015.
Thanks for any help
Clive
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Omega General Help / Re: 2.5TD Clutch Bolt On Question
« on: 09 March 2015, 19:51:51 »
Hi Zirk
Thanks for the reply, what sort of mileage can one expect out of them, I understand it depends on how a car is driven or if it spends most of it's life towing, so just after a rough ball park figure, not etched in stone. What sort of mileage have any of you had out of theirs?
Sometimes with some makes of cars it becomes a known fact they can have certain issues so the word goes around, guess I'm just wondering if I will be safe in the knowledge I can get away with existing one, having said that if anyone reading this knows where they are a reasonable price don't hesitate say, not second hand ones though.
Cheers
Clive
Thanks for the reply, what sort of mileage can one expect out of them, I understand it depends on how a car is driven or if it spends most of it's life towing, so just after a rough ball park figure, not etched in stone
. What sort of mileage have any of you had out of theirs?Sometimes with some makes of cars it becomes a known fact they can have certain issues so the word goes around, guess I'm just wondering if I will be safe in the knowledge I can get away with existing one, having said that if anyone reading this knows where they are a reasonable price don't hesitate say, not second hand ones though.
Cheers
Clive
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Omega General Help / 2.5TD Clutch Bolt On Question
« on: 09 March 2015, 19:26:44 »
Hi Guys
The last time I held a flywheel in my hand dual mass ones hadn't been invented, come to that, not even thought of, heavens how on earth did we manage without them
Ok I haven't stripped my clutch down yet and car's done 89500 miles, if you read my other thread you will see I'm having a little trouble with getting it to go into gear, having said that I can't feel any roughness or judder from the flywheel when it is going.
Question do the flywheels normally need changing along with the clutch on the Omega's and if so has anyone out there found a good site where you don't have to amputate your arm to pay for it.
Cheers
Clive
The last time I held a flywheel in my hand dual mass ones hadn't been invented, come to that, not even thought of, heavens how on earth did we manage without them
Ok I haven't stripped my clutch down yet and car's done 89500 miles, if you read my other thread you will see I'm having a little trouble with getting it to go into gear, having said that I can't feel any roughness or judder from the flywheel when it is going.
Question do the flywheels normally need changing along with the clutch on the Omega's and if so has anyone out there found a good site where you don't have to amputate your arm to pay for it.
Cheers
Clive
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Omega General Help / Re: 2.5TD Clutch
« on: 09 March 2015, 18:16:04 »
TheBoy thanks for your swift reply, I’ve just been out to the car started the engine and applied a steady pressure to the gearstick and slowly let the clutch pedal up and nope it would not go into first gear at any time throughout the pedal travel.
I’ve also changed the gearbox oil, I even bought it from the main agents just to make sure it was the right stuff I was putting in, still can’t help wondering if it’s the input shaft being slowly dragged around because the clutch is showing signs of wear.
Giving my age away here but donkeys years ago when I fitted a new clutch in a Vauxhall Victor I had the same problem, just could not get the gearbox to go into gear, not crashing, it just would not go in period.
Stripped it all down again and found out the friction plate was slightly distorted so it just gave a slight drag on the input shaft, I took it back to the shop and spun it on a mandrill to so they could see the wobble on it, they changed it for another one but needless to say I miffed off having had to do the work all over again, but it solved to problem.
I’ve also changed the gearbox oil, I even bought it from the main agents just to make sure it was the right stuff I was putting in, still can’t help wondering if it’s the input shaft being slowly dragged around because the clutch is showing signs of wear.
Giving my age away here but donkeys years ago when I fitted a new clutch in a Vauxhall Victor I had the same problem, just could not get the gearbox to go into gear, not crashing, it just would not go in period.
Stripped it all down again and found out the friction plate was slightly distorted so it just gave a slight drag on the input shaft, I took it back to the shop and spun it on a mandrill to so they could see the wobble on it, they changed it for another one but needless to say I miffed off having had to do the work all over again, but it solved to problem.
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Omega General Help / 2.5TD Clutch
« on: 09 March 2015, 17:15:23 »
Hi Guys
First off I’m talking about a 2.5TD year 2000, if I start the car up from cold I can’t get it to go into gear, by that I don’t mean the gears crash, they just will not physically shift in, I think the gear stick would bend before it will go into gear.
If I turn the engine off it goes into gear no probs. then press the clutch pedal down and then start the car it doesn’t jerk forward as through its in drive, I can just let the clutch pedal up slowly and it moves away as normal.
After I’ve driven the car for about 15 minutes or so, if I then turn the engine off and then restart it again, it goes into gear no problem at all, it’s as though the problem occurs after its been stood a long time and it’s not warmed up.
I’ve bled the concentric slave cylinder but no joy, the car has done 89500 miles, so I’m guessing it’s the original clutch.
I can’t say that I’ve noticed any clutch slip, in fact if I put into gear and try to drive off with the handbrake on it will stall the engine rather than slip.
Has anyone else out there had a similar problem, could it be that the clutch is not disengaging properly and as a result it’s dragging the gearbox input shaft around very slowly and it’s just enough to prevent gear engagement.
If that is the case I can’t understand why it will go into gear after it’s warmed up, has anyone out there had similar problems, I’d appreciate your comments.
Clive
First off I’m talking about a 2.5TD year 2000, if I start the car up from cold I can’t get it to go into gear, by that I don’t mean the gears crash, they just will not physically shift in, I think the gear stick would bend before it will go into gear.
If I turn the engine off it goes into gear no probs. then press the clutch pedal down and then start the car it doesn’t jerk forward as through its in drive, I can just let the clutch pedal up slowly and it moves away as normal.
After I’ve driven the car for about 15 minutes or so, if I then turn the engine off and then restart it again, it goes into gear no problem at all, it’s as though the problem occurs after its been stood a long time and it’s not warmed up.
I’ve bled the concentric slave cylinder but no joy, the car has done 89500 miles, so I’m guessing it’s the original clutch.
I can’t say that I’ve noticed any clutch slip, in fact if I put into gear and try to drive off with the handbrake on it will stall the engine rather than slip.
Has anyone else out there had a similar problem, could it be that the clutch is not disengaging properly and as a result it’s dragging the gearbox input shaft around very slowly and it’s just enough to prevent gear engagement.
If that is the case I can’t understand why it will go into gear after it’s warmed up, has anyone out there had similar problems, I’d appreciate your comments.
Clive
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Omega General Help / Omega 2.5DT Fuel Injector Update
« on: 20 July 2014, 23:18:30 »
Hi Guys
This is just an update on the fuel injector problem I had with my Omega, hope it may be useful to anyone with the same problem.
Just to recap the injector with the needle lift sensor wires was leaking where the two halves of the injector body screw into each other, also I’d managed to break a couple of the metal leak off tubes on one of the others, I’d been using a Sealey injector socket, the type with a cut out window in it, personally I don’t think the Sealey one is cored out enough on the inside as a result it comes very close onto the leak of tubes, anyway I bought a different make which seemed a whole lot better.
Right back to the broken leak off tubes, there is a company in Reading who can repair them ie. fit new tubes, the website is www.peter-strong-diesel-fuel-injection.co.uk
The leaking injector body (the needle lift sensor one) I decided to replace with a new one, the main agent price was £290 inc vat I was told there was one to be had in the UK and four in Germany, well according to Vauxhall stock listing.
I manage to locate someone selling new ones for £229.99 + del on e-bay.
Seller is p38-spares located in Wales, the Omega shares the same engine as the Range Rover P38 mine’s a 2000 reg. so I needed the injector with the brown plug on the end of the lead as apposed the white plug which is for the earlier model.
I continued searching and found a website called www.bestpartstore.co.uk selling new ones for £184.98, although it’s a UK website the company is based in Germany, it said ready to be dispatched within 24 hours.
I order one and paid for it using my credit card through PayPal, a few days went past and I had not received an e-mail notifying of despatch, on a review forum I found out some people had been having issues with this company, so I ask why I had not received the injector only to be told they were out of stock and they had to order from the manufacturer, I got the injector in the end which took 2 weeks although their website continued to say dispatched with 24 hours, so my advice to anyone ordering off this company make sure you pay by credit card and don’t do it via PayPal just in case things do go pear shaped.
The injector has stamped on it India 902 KCA 21S 91 150 bar 101 and came in a box with a label saying Bosch 0 432 217 279, I have been told that this number is a Bosch number recognised by injector suppliers with the UK.
I fitted the injector and didn’t even bother to vent any air out of the system, a few turns of the key and the car was running, just one thing when starting the car don’t just hang onto the key, if it doesn’t start, switch off and try again because when I checked how long the supply voltage is supplied to the glow plugs, I found it is only on for 15 seconds before cutting off again.
Cheers
Clive
This is just an update on the fuel injector problem I had with my Omega, hope it may be useful to anyone with the same problem.
Just to recap the injector with the needle lift sensor wires was leaking where the two halves of the injector body screw into each other, also I’d managed to break a couple of the metal leak off tubes on one of the others, I’d been using a Sealey injector socket, the type with a cut out window in it, personally I don’t think the Sealey one is cored out enough on the inside as a result it comes very close onto the leak of tubes, anyway I bought a different make which seemed a whole lot better.
Right back to the broken leak off tubes, there is a company in Reading who can repair them ie. fit new tubes, the website is www.peter-strong-diesel-fuel-injection.co.uk
The leaking injector body (the needle lift sensor one) I decided to replace with a new one, the main agent price was £290 inc vat I was told there was one to be had in the UK and four in Germany, well according to Vauxhall stock listing.
I manage to locate someone selling new ones for £229.99 + del on e-bay.
Seller is p38-spares located in Wales, the Omega shares the same engine as the Range Rover P38 mine’s a 2000 reg. so I needed the injector with the brown plug on the end of the lead as apposed the white plug which is for the earlier model.
I continued searching and found a website called www.bestpartstore.co.uk selling new ones for £184.98, although it’s a UK website the company is based in Germany, it said ready to be dispatched within 24 hours.
I order one and paid for it using my credit card through PayPal, a few days went past and I had not received an e-mail notifying of despatch, on a review forum I found out some people had been having issues with this company, so I ask why I had not received the injector only to be told they were out of stock and they had to order from the manufacturer, I got the injector in the end which took 2 weeks although their website continued to say dispatched with 24 hours, so my advice to anyone ordering off this company make sure you pay by credit card and don’t do it via PayPal just in case things do go pear shaped.
The injector has stamped on it India 902 KCA 21S 91 150 bar 101 and came in a box with a label saying Bosch 0 432 217 279, I have been told that this number is a Bosch number recognised by injector suppliers with the UK.
I fitted the injector and didn’t even bother to vent any air out of the system, a few turns of the key and the car was running, just one thing when starting the car don’t just hang onto the key, if it doesn’t start, switch off and try again because when I checked how long the supply voltage is supplied to the glow plugs, I found it is only on for 15 seconds before cutting off again.
Cheers
Clive
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel Injector Info Needed
« on: 16 June 2014, 16:16:38 »
Hi Guys
Thanks for your quick replies, I have to admit not quite the answer I was hoping for, I just wish someone had found out you could get them free with every packet of corn flakes
Seth the problem with the injector is, it was leaking where the two halves of the injector body screw into each other, so I decided to take them all out and get new nozzles fitted unfortunately in getting couple of them out I managed to break the metal leak off tubes but the company who fitted the new nozzles are also able to replace these tubes.
I have now refitted the injectors and isn’t the one with the sensor wire still leaking, so I guess the only cure will be to fit a new one.
I would have thought the leak would have shown up while the injector was under test.
Right guys this is what I’ve managed to find out so far: The Omega is fitted with a BMW 6 cylinder engine which I’m given to understand is also fitted in the Range Rover P38, mine has X25DT stamped on the side of the engine block.
I’ve been having a look on the net and found this so far http://p38spares.co.uk/commerce/product/1984/Range_Rover_P38_Fuel_Injector_&_Sensor_25_TD_-_99-02.html price £229.99 for a Range Rover P38 MKII 2.5 TD Models 1999 – 2002 From Vin/Chassis Number: WA409250
This is for a genuine Bosch item, so I’m assuming it would fit the engine in my car since they are supposed to be one of the same and its £64 cheaper, I'm still looking, just wish I could speak German, I'm sure Vauxhall as got a massive mark up on the spares just like any other spares they sell.
Thanks for your quick replies, I have to admit not quite the answer I was hoping for, I just wish someone had found out you could get them free with every packet of corn flakes
Seth the problem with the injector is, it was leaking where the two halves of the injector body screw into each other, so I decided to take them all out and get new nozzles fitted unfortunately in getting couple of them out I managed to break the metal leak off tubes but the company who fitted the new nozzles are also able to replace these tubes.
I have now refitted the injectors and isn’t the one with the sensor wire still leaking, so I guess the only cure will be to fit a new one.
I would have thought the leak would have shown up while the injector was under test.
Right guys this is what I’ve managed to find out so far: The Omega is fitted with a BMW 6 cylinder engine which I’m given to understand is also fitted in the Range Rover P38, mine has X25DT stamped on the side of the engine block.
I’ve been having a look on the net and found this so far http://p38spares.co.uk/commerce/product/1984/Range_Rover_P38_Fuel_Injector_&_Sensor_25_TD_-_99-02.html price £229.99 for a Range Rover P38 MKII 2.5 TD Models 1999 – 2002 From Vin/Chassis Number: WA409250
This is for a genuine Bosch item, so I’m assuming it would fit the engine in my car since they are supposed to be one of the same and its £64 cheaper, I'm still looking, just wish I could speak German, I'm sure Vauxhall as got a massive mark up on the spares just like any other spares they sell.
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Omega General Help / Fuel Injector Info Needed
« on: 15 June 2014, 20:45:42 »
Hi Guys
I've a couple of questions about fuel injectors for the Omega 2.5DT year 2000.
I'm after a new injector (not second hand) for the above car, the one with the needle lift sensor wire attached to it.
Does anyone know where I can buy one at a sensible price, I've tried the main agents and they want £244.42+vat so if my sums are right I'd be looking at £293.30 with the tax mans cut.
I know I can surf the net, but its always worth checking on the forum as someone may have already found a site with a more sensible price, I don't even mind if its got to come from Germany.
The other question is:
As far as the electrics side of fitting the injector is concerned, is it simply a case of plugging the business end of the wire into the socket and starting the car up and purging the air out of the system.
In other words what I'm asking is, do these cars need to be programed to set the engine management system up if the injector as been replaced with a new one.
Thanks for any help.
Clive
I've a couple of questions about fuel injectors for the Omega 2.5DT year 2000.
I'm after a new injector (not second hand) for the above car, the one with the needle lift sensor wire attached to it.
Does anyone know where I can buy one at a sensible price, I've tried the main agents and they want £244.42+vat so if my sums are right I'd be looking at £293.30 with the tax mans cut.
I know I can surf the net, but its always worth checking on the forum as someone may have already found a site with a more sensible price, I don't even mind if its got to come from Germany.
The other question is:
As far as the electrics side of fitting the injector is concerned, is it simply a case of plugging the business end of the wire into the socket and starting the car up and purging the air out of the system.
In other words what I'm asking is, do these cars need to be programed to set the engine management system up if the injector as been replaced with a new one.
Thanks for any help.
Clive
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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Radio Aerial Socket Pushed Through Back Plate
« on: 16 May 2014, 22:24:57 »
Thanks Guys, absolutely spot on RobG, as you said just one screw at the back and ten lugs.
3 at the top, likewise at the bottom and 2 either side
.
Turns out the lug on the aerial socket hadn’t broken, just a bit weak, I’ve managed to stick something under it so the barb sticks out a bit more, it seems to be ok when pushed with my finger, guess the real test will be when I shove the radio back in.
Thank god for that Plym ian, I thought I was the only one who got cut when working on cars, the trims on cars these days are a real pain, held in place with springs or clips as part of the moulding and usually break getting the trim off.
3 at the top, likewise at the bottom and 2 either side
.Turns out the lug on the aerial socket hadn’t broken, just a bit weak, I’ve managed to stick something under it so the barb sticks out a bit more, it seems to be ok when pushed with my finger, guess the real test will be when I shove the radio back in.
Thank god for that Plym ian, I thought I was the only one who got cut when working on cars
, the trims on cars these days are a real pain, held in place with springs or clips as part of the moulding and usually break getting the trim off. 59
Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Radio Aerial Socket Pushed Through Back Plate
« on: 15 May 2014, 22:56:30 »
Hi Guys
I've got the radio out of my Omega, the radio is a CCR 2006, does anyone know how to get the metal housing out, I think one of the barbs which hold the aerial in place as broken as a result when I pushed the radio in it's shoved the aerial socket right through the back plate.
Is there anyway it can be held in place while pushing the radio in ie getting my hand round the back to hold it place or if anyone knows of a repair please don't hesitate to let me know.
Cheers
Clive
I've got the radio out of my Omega, the radio is a CCR 2006, does anyone know how to get the metal housing out, I think one of the barbs which hold the aerial in place as broken as a result when I pushed the radio in it's shoved the aerial socket right through the back plate.
Is there anyway it can be held in place while pushing the radio in ie getting my hand round the back to hold it place or if anyone knows of a repair please don't hesitate to let me know.
Cheers
Clive
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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: CCR 2006
« on: 02 May 2014, 23:13:21 »
Hi Jonny
Thanks for looking for me, I was thinking it was me not searching correctly as I’m not a wiz at finding things on these forums.
At the moment I’ve sort of pushed the front back on and it’s holding on by various bits that stick up from the printed circuit board if you know what I mean.
I may just try your idea, glue some bits of debit card onto what remains of the broken lugs, it's not as though I'm going to be hanging on it.
Thanks for looking for me, I was thinking it was me not searching correctly as I’m not a wiz at finding things on these forums.
At the moment I’ve sort of pushed the front back on and it’s holding on by various bits that stick up from the printed circuit board if you know what I mean.
I may just try your idea, glue some bits of debit card onto what remains of the broken lugs, it's not as though I'm going to be hanging on it.