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Title: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: STEMO on 29 October 2020, 13:36:43
Jeremy has been suspended from the Labour Party and had the whip withdrawn for his (lack of) response to the anti semitism enquiry. Tee hee.  ;D
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 October 2020, 13:37:34
His brother is the only sane one in the family. :)
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: STEMO on 29 October 2020, 13:40:07
His brother is the only sane one in the family. :)
I'll bet it was a hoot in the house when those two were growing up. "Daaaaaad, Jeremy has cut the head off my Hitler figure".
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: deviator on 29 October 2020, 14:14:21
Putting Corbyn in charge of the Labour party at election time was the best way to guarantee they lose.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 October 2020, 14:49:52
Putting Corbyn in charge of the Labour party at election time was the best way to guarantee they lose.


Blair won 3 elections but 'Tory Tony' was never a socialist. :)
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 October 2020, 16:00:17
Yes, great news! 8) 8) 8) 8)

Never liked him for what he represented anyway, but now everyone can see how devious and plain nasty he was and is >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2020, 16:04:10
Yes, great news! 8) 8) 8) 8)

Never liked him for what he represented anyway, but now everyone can see how devious and plain nasty he was and is >:( >:( >:(
Sorry, but you'd have needed to be blind and deaf not to have already known that about him... That they're his better attributes notwithstanding. :-X
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 29 October 2020, 16:42:24
This is Keir Starmer being the devious professional Politician that he is. Its his way of hoping to show the electorate that he is a million miles from Corbyn and his nasty anti semitic supporters.
However, we should not forget that Starmer was a senior member of Corbyns shadow cabinet throughout all of this happening, and he kept his head down and his mouth shut, for the sake of his career.
He was shadow Secretary of State for exiting the EU, where he spent all of his time trying to overturn the result of the referendum, and saying or doing little if anything about the anti Jewish, Marxist takeover of the party he was a senior figure in.
Dont be fooled by his smart suit.
He is just another unprincipled lawyer turned politician, who wants to get to the top.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2020, 16:45:08
Credit where it's due, at least he wears a suit...
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 29 October 2020, 16:46:20
He is a lawyer, its his work clothes.  ;)
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 October 2020, 17:06:00
Well it's caused a bit of a leftie Twitter storm which is always quite amusing!  ;D
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2020, 17:47:45
Well it's caused a bit of a leftie Twitter storm which is always quite amusing!  ;D
They're a thin skinned bunch ;D
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: STEMO on 29 October 2020, 18:01:31
Apart from getting all frustrated and a little bit shouty, there's not much Labour can do until 2024. Shame.

Marcus Rashford will probably be Labour leader by then.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Rangie on 29 October 2020, 18:47:06
I admire him for shagging Diane Abbot, she must smell like a rotting sack of fish.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 29 October 2020, 19:04:27
Apart from getting all frustrated and a little bit shouty, there's not much Labour can do until 2024. Shame.

Marcus Rashford will probably be Labour leader by then.

And probably still lacking the self awareness and life experience to see the irony of him earning circa half a million quid a week, or whatever the amount is, and trying to shame the Govt into giving all kids free food, paid for by the taxes of people earning less throughout their whole lives than he earns in a few weeks.  ::)
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: LC0112G on 29 October 2020, 19:18:11
Apart from getting all frustrated and a little bit shouty, there's not much Labour can do until 2024. Shame.

Marcus Rashford will probably be Labour leader by then.

And probably still lacking the self awareness and life experience to see the irony of him earning circa half a million quid a week, or whatever the amount is, and trying to shame the Govt into giving all kids free food, paid for by the taxes of people earning less throughout their whole lives than he earns in a few weeks.  ::)

The converse of that is that he'll be paying more tax per week than most will pay in a working lifetime.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2020, 19:31:10
Apart from getting all frustrated and a little bit shouty, there's not much Labour can do until 2024. Shame.

Marcus Rashford will probably be Labour leader by then.

And probably still lacking the self awareness and life experience to see the irony of him earning circa half a million quid a week, or whatever the amount is, and trying to shame the Govt into giving all kids free food, paid for by the taxes of people earning less throughout their whole lives than he earns in a few weeks.  ::)

The converse of that is that he'll be paying more tax per week than most will pay in a working lifetime.
;D ;D ;D

Are you drunk?
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 October 2020, 19:41:09
Yes, great news! 8) 8) 8) 8)

Never liked him for what he represented anyway, but now everyone can see how devious and plain nasty he was and is >:( >:( >:(
Sorry, but you'd have needed to be blind and deaf not to have already known that about him... That they're his better attributes notwithstanding. :-X



Hundreds of thousands did not see all that as we did and still voted for him!! ::) ::) ::)  Even now his Marxist friend Livingstone is defending him and reckoning Corbyn had nothing to do with it and is a great man!!  What a prat! :P :P
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2020, 19:53:46
Don't get me started on that odious vermin.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 October 2020, 20:03:40
Don't get me started on that odious vermin.

He had some sense.  He sacked John McDonnell.  :)
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 October 2020, 21:16:23
Gove has written to Sir Kier Starmer regarding the EHRC report and Jeremy Corbyn's suspension.  8)

https://twitter.com/michaelgove/status/1321871058568359945
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 October 2020, 21:24:37
One word covers all of the bunch imo.... Parasites!
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: LC0112G on 29 October 2020, 21:30:37
Apart from getting all frustrated and a little bit shouty, there's not much Labour can do until 2024. Shame.

Marcus Rashford will probably be Labour leader by then.

And probably still lacking the self awareness and life experience to see the irony of him earning circa half a million quid a week, or whatever the amount is, and trying to shame the Govt into giving all kids free food, paid for by the taxes of people earning less throughout their whole lives than he earns in a few weeks.  ::)

The converse of that is that he'll be paying more tax per week than most will pay in a working lifetime.
;D ;D ;D

Are you drunk?

Are you saying you don't think Marcus Rashford pays more tax in a week than most pay in a lifetime?
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 October 2020, 21:31:27
If I ever shag Abbot (as there’s bound to be a small chance 🤭) I would then try my best to shag Corbin, as that would even things up👍 Mind you,  I doubt if any combination of drugs, booze, sleep deprivation, water boarding, could ever make that possible. I would gladly do time rather than muff her😟🔥👀🍒👅⚔️
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: STEMO on 29 October 2020, 21:33:26
Gove has written to Sir Kier Starmer regarding the EHRC report and Jeremy Corbyn's suspension.  8)

https://twitter.com/michaelgove/status/1321871058568359945
We all know Michaels mantra: Never kick a man till he's down.  :)
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 October 2020, 21:33:48
Whatever he pays,  the bint is not paying enough😡 some of us have to fu/)ing work for our money🔥🔥🔥🔥
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: STEMO on 29 October 2020, 21:36:37
Put your hands in the air and move away from the booze, Rae  ;D
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 October 2020, 21:40:30
Hi stevie :y
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 October 2020, 21:41:02
Booze is my saviour  :D
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: STEMO on 29 October 2020, 21:43:22
It's the only answer, mate  :y
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 October 2020, 21:46:52
👍
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2020, 21:56:36
Apart from getting all frustrated and a little bit shouty, there's not much Labour can do until 2024. Shame.

Marcus Rashford will probably be Labour leader by then.

And probably still lacking the self awareness and life experience to see the irony of him earning circa half a million quid a week, or whatever the amount is, and trying to shame the Govt into giving all kids free food, paid for by the taxes of people earning less throughout their whole lives than he earns in a few weeks.  ::)

The converse of that is that he'll be paying more tax per week than most will pay in a working lifetime.
;D ;D ;D

Are you drunk?

Are you saying you don't think Marcus Rashford pays more tax in a week than most pay in a lifetime?
Not if he's got a decent accountant...
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 October 2020, 22:00:26
Decent? Corrupt? Backhanded, parasitic?, there’s plenty of them if you can pay em.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2020, 22:15:05
He could set up a multi million pound property company to purchase all his 'stuff' whilst paying himself £12,500 a year. He then leases his car/his home/clothes etc from the holding company at say a pound a month, which, on paper doesn't make a profit, ergo, no tax. Especially if the property company is based in Nassau.

Hypothetically speaking.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 October 2020, 22:26:23
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 October 2020, 22:55:02
If I had Rashford's kind of cash I wouldn't just have my company based there, I'd be based in Funky Nassau (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L762HQ-ha7I) too!  8)
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2020, 22:59:54
If I had Rashford's kind of cash I wouldn't just have my company based there, I'd be based in Funky Nassau (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L762HQ-ha7I) too!  8)
That could work too 8)
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: 78bex on 29 October 2020, 23:07:13
"corbynite" sounds a bit like "cryptonite" doesn`t it  :-\
Surely the drug  of choice for big Len McCluskey  :P & he`s not a happy bunny
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2020, 23:09:26
"corbynite" sounds a bit like "cryptonite" doesn`t it  :-\
Surely the drug  of choice for big Len McCluskey  :P & he`s not a happy bunny
Another waste of resources :-X
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 29 October 2020, 23:17:46
"corbynite" sounds a bit like "cryptonite" doesn`t it  :-\
Surely the drug  of choice for big Len McCluskey  :P & he`s not a happy bunny
Another waste of skin and fresh air :-X

Fixed.  :)
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: LC0112G on 29 October 2020, 23:21:21
He could set up a multi million pound property company to purchase all his 'stuff' whilst paying himself £12,500 a year. He then leases his car/his home/clothes etc from the holding company at say a pound a month, which, on paper doesn't make a profit, ergo, no tax. Especially if the property company is based in Nassau.

Hypothetically speaking.

No, he can't.

His employer will be Manchester United, or possibly he's employed by "Marcus Rashford Ltd" and Manchester United pay the Ltd Co for his services - although that may fall foul of IR35.

If he's an employee of ManU then there is no way to avoid income tax and NI because ManU will have to pay it for him (PAYE). The income tax alone is almost £13.8 million p/a on a £500K p/w salary. Plus with employee NI and employers NI the take for HMRC is going to be circa £18 Million p/a.

If it's done through a ltd company - how on earth do you think a company can avoid making a profit when it's income is £26M p/a, and it's (employees) costs are £12.5K plus a few £K NI and pension? The corporation tax rate is only 19% - so a lot less than the income tax rate, but Marcus cannot extract the "retained profits" from the company without paying yet more tax.

And the idea that the company can buy cars and houses for you to live in 'for free' is also nonsense. It'll be treated as a benefit in kind by HMRC.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2020, 23:24:38
Not if it's offshore it won't.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 October 2020, 23:39:18
Corruption and cash are hand in hand👍
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Rangie on 30 October 2020, 08:47:01
Corruption and cash are hand in hand👍


Makes the world go round, don't care what anyone says cash is still king.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: biggriffin on 30 October 2020, 08:55:11
He could set up a multi million pound property company to purchase all his 'stuff' whilst paying himself £12,500 a year. He then leases his car/his home/clothes etc from the holding company at say a pound a month, which, on paper doesn't make a profit, ergo, no tax. Especially if the property company is based in Nassau.

Hypothetically speaking.

No, he can't.

His employer will be Manchester United, or possibly he's employed by "Marcus Rashford Ltd" and Manchester United pay the Ltd Co for his services - although that may fall foul of IR35.

If he's an employee of ManU then there is no way to avoid income tax and NI because ManU will have to pay it for him (PAYE). The income tax alone is almost £13.8 million p/a on a £500K p/w salary. Plus with employee NI and employers NI the take for HMRC is going to be circa £18 Million p/a.

If it's done through a ltd company - how on earth do you think a company can avoid making a profit when it's income is £26M p/a, and it's (employees) costs are £12.5K plus a few £K NI and pension? The corporation tax rate is only 19% - so a lot less than the income tax rate, but Marcus cannot extract the "retained profits" from the company without paying yet more tax.

And the idea that the company can buy cars and houses for you to live in 'for free' is also nonsense. It'll be treated as a benefit in kind by HMRC.

 Rushfords dirty laundry regarding his financial situation was laid out on Twitter,  he's a typical football type, lots of ltd company, some tax fiddling, The usual tax evasion done by those that can afford too.

Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: LC0112G on 30 October 2020, 09:56:10
Not if it's offshore it won't.

Makes no difference. If he's UK tax resident (don't see how he can't be if he spends more than 180 days in the UK per year) then he has to account for all his worldwide earnings to the UK HMRC. Unless you're accusing him of tax evasion with no evidence  ::)

It's a different situation for people like Lewis Hamilton who aren't UK tax resident because they live abroad (Monaco/Swizerland/wherever) and spend less than 180 days in the UK per year.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 October 2020, 10:00:30
Tax evasion or wealth management... All a matter of perspective  :-X
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: LC0112G on 30 October 2020, 10:02:08
Rushfords dirty laundry regarding his financial situation was laid out on Twitter,  he's a typical football type, lots of ltd company, some tax fiddling, The usual tax evasion done by those that can afford too.

And? You or I can register lots of Ltd co's if we want. How does it help you maximise your own personal wealth whilst paying minimal tax? Any method of extracting millions of cash from a Ltd co carries a +/- 50% ish tax bill.

And it's not tax evasion - that's illegal. It's tax avoidance which is perfectly legal.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: LC0112G on 30 October 2020, 10:04:59
Tax evasion or wealth management... All a matter of perspective  :-X

Again, accusations with no evidence. If you have evidence of tax evasion give it to HMRC and let them investigate and prosecute him.

Nothing wrong with Tax avoidance or Wealth Management. Everyone should do it unless you want to give the Govt more money than they are legally entitled to.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 October 2020, 10:10:50
What's your point then ???

I haven't accused him of anything. I merely suggested that it is hypothetically possible to get paid the bare minimum whilst losing the rest into a tax efficient manner...

He wouldn't be the first person to use an expensive accountant. In fact he would be the first celeb type not to
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Entwood on 30 October 2020, 10:48:08
What's your point then ???

I haven't accused him of anything. I merely suggested that it is hypothetically possible to get paid the bare minimum whilst losing the rest into a tax efficient manner...

He wouldn't be the first person to use an expensive accountant. In fact he would be the first celeb type not to

I is confused ....  (not difficult I know ...)

You seem to be very much against Mr M Rashford using accountants to avoid paying excessive tax ... it appears you believe this to be very wrong ....

yet when Mr D Trump avoids paying taxes by similar means, you support his right to do so ??

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/trump-750-taxes.html

It transpires, that he didn't actually need to pay the $750, not that that would ever be the headline.

Do I detect the mearest hint of hypocrisy here ???
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 October 2020, 11:17:47
What's your point then ???

I haven't accused him of anything. I merely suggested that it is hypothetically possible to get paid the bare minimum whilst losing the rest into a tax efficient manner...

He wouldn't be the first person to use an expensive accountant. In fact he would be the first celeb type not to

I is confused ....  (not difficult I know ...)

You seem to be very much against Mr M Rashford using accountants to avoid paying excessive tax ... it appears you believe this to be very wrong ....

yet when Mr D Trump avoids paying taxes by similar means, you support his right to do so ??

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/trump-750-taxes.html

It transpires, that he didn't actually need to pay the $750, not that that would ever be the headline.

Do I detect the mearest hint of hypocrisy here ???
You're confused? Thee and mee both :D

How a multi million pound sports 'personality' does or doesn't pay their taxes is entirely up to them. Tax 'avoidance' is common place amongst those who are in a position to do so.

Malcolm was the one who took issue with it... (or perhaps the phrasing).

I believe the issue with Mr Rashford is that he is presumed to live 'like a millionaire' whilst demanding that the government, and therefore we, fork out for something the he could well do himself. I say believe, because it isn't something that I have been paying any mind to.

And as you brought it up, Trump doesn't take a penny of his Presidential salary... Can't see many 'woke' celebrity types doing the same.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Entwood on 30 October 2020, 12:20:32
What's your point then ???

I haven't accused him of anything. I merely suggested that it is hypothetically possible to get paid the bare minimum whilst losing the rest into a tax efficient manner...

He wouldn't be the first person to use an expensive accountant. In fact he would be the first celeb type not to

I is confused ....  (not difficult I know ...)

You seem to be very much against Mr M Rashford using accountants to avoid paying excessive tax ... it appears you believe this to be very wrong ....

yet when Mr D Trump avoids paying taxes by similar means, you support his right to do so ??

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/trump-750-taxes.html

It transpires, that he didn't actually need to pay the $750, not that that would ever be the headline.

Do I detect the mearest hint of hypocrisy here ???
You're confused? Thee and mee both :D

How a multi million pound sports 'personality' does or doesn't pay their taxes is entirely up to them. Tax 'avoidance' is common place amongst those who are in a position to do so.

Malcolm was the one who took issue with it... (or perhaps the phrasing).

I believe the issue with Mr Rashford is that he is presumed to live 'like a millionaire' whilst demanding that the government, and therefore we, fork out for something the he could well do himself. I say believe, because it isn't something that I have been paying any mind to.

And as you brought it up, Trump doesn't take a penny of his Presidential salary... Can't see many 'woke' celebrity types doing the same.

In the interests of accuracy ....

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/11/fact-check-donald-trump-donates-salary-but-he-still-makes-money/5410134002/
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: STEMO on 30 October 2020, 12:43:51
Stop it with the accuracy, already. That's no way to run an election.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 October 2020, 13:04:49
 ;D

I never said he didn't earn anything, merely that he doesn't take his Presidential salary...  ::)
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 October 2020, 13:55:13
According to the 'bible of absolute truth' known as Wiki.... ;D Marcus Rashford made £10.4 million last year. That is a lot of money for a lad who isn't old enough to shave. :)

That Welsh fella (his name evades me) coins a much more satisfactory £600,000 a week.
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 30 October 2020, 15:05:47
"corbynite" sounds a bit like "cryptonite" doesn`t it  :-\
Surely the drug  of choice for big Len McCluskey :P & he`s not a happy bunny
Another waste of resources :-X

Areed! :y :y
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 30 October 2020, 15:07:25
Tax evasion or wealth management... All a matter of perspective  :-X


Trump would certainly agree with that ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Raeturbo on 30 October 2020, 15:09:56
According to the 'bible of absolute truth' known as Wiki.... ;D Marcus Rashford made £10.4 million last year. That is a lot of money for a lad who isn't old enough to shave. :)

That Welsh fella (his name evades me) coins a much more satisfactory £600,000 a week.

                NO I DONT! It’s much less ;D
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 October 2020, 18:25:40
According to the 'bible of absolute truth' known as Wiki.... ;D Marcus Rashford made £10.4 million last year. That is a lot of money for a lad who isn't old enough to shave. :)

That Welsh fella (his name evades me) coins a much more satisfactory £600,000 a week.

                NO I DONT! It’s much less ;D
£240.38?
Title: Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Post by: Raeturbo on 30 October 2020, 21:05:28
Far from it as is possible mate :y ;D ;D