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[tunnie]

Wouldn't call our towing limits silly a ridiculous statement.

I am saying its silly to be limited to such silly speeds.  The solution is not to raise towing limits, but to ban caravans.

Problem solved.

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Another utterly ridiculous statement, am I suprised , not one bit.

Don't take Jamie too seriously 

He is too soft. Personally I think all caravans should be burned. Immediately. 

Probably find a nice self combusting Zafira to start them off

 

[TheBoy]

Wouldn't call our towing limits silly a ridiculous statement.

I am saying its silly to be limited to such silly speeds.  The solution is not to raise towing limits, but to ban caravans.

Problem solved.

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Another utterly ridiculous statement, am I suprised , not one bit.

I do like a nice, well reasoned debate


As for UK v European roads, you want to try some European roads.  And for the most part, I think our motorways and major trunk roads are mostly usually in good condition.

Granted, some of our smaller roads, and certainly a lot of town roads aren't great, but you're have to be a pretty ignorant caravanner to make extensive use of them, getting in everyone's way.  But similar Euro roads aren't any better, including those French tree lined lanes, which was probably idyllic 50 years ago, but now the trees have grown, and their roots break up the road surface, on reflection was a poor idea.  Still, nice safety barriers to protect empty farmers fields from drivers who get it wrong, as a dirty great trunk isn't moving much.

[STEMO]

In order to be allowed to go out and about towing a burger van, it should be compulsory to have a vehicle capable of accelerating at a reasonable pace and powerful enough to get up inclines without slowing to 35. They are fine on motorways, but you don’t want to get stuck behind a 1.6 focus towing even a small van on a country road.

[Andy B]

In order to be allowed to go out and about towing a burger van, it should be compulsory to have a vehicle capable of accelerating at a reasonable pace and powerful enough to get up inclines without slowing to 35. They are fine on motorways, but you don’t want to get stuck behind a 1.6 focus towing even a small van on a country road.

Over the years I've had various d1ck heads that just had to get in front of me, to find that the slow caravan in front of him was also stuck behind some other kn0b head not towing. And I've embarrassed a few drivers at a Traffic light Grand Prix when towing when their lane ran out long before they got passed me. 

[2boxerdogs]

In order to be allowed to go out and about towing a burger van, it should be compulsory to have a vehicle capable of accelerating at a reasonable pace and powerful enough to get up inclines without slowing to 35. They are fine on motorways, but you don’t want to get stuck behind a 1.6 focus towing even a small van on a country road.

Over the years I've had various d1ck heads that just had to get in front of me, to find that the slow caravan in front of him was also stuck behind some other kn0b head not towing. And I've embarrassed a few drivers at a Traffic light Grand Prix when towing when their lane ran out long before they got passed me. 

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That's more the problem, people are more obsessed with mpg than having a car that's up to the job .

[henryd]

In order to be allowed to go out and about towing a burger van, it should be compulsory to have a vehicle capable of accelerating at a reasonable pace and powerful enough to get up inclines without slowing to 35. They are fine on motorways, but you don’t want to get stuck behind a 1.6 focus towing even a small van on a country road.

Over the years I've had various d1ck heads that just had to get in front of me, to find that the slow caravan in front of him was also stuck behind some other kn0b head not towing. And I've embarrassed a few drivers at a Traffic light Grand Prix when towing when their lane ran out long before they got passed me. 

Yep me too,can't beat tractor fuel for lots of torque

[2boxerdogs]

In order to be allowed to go out and about towing a burger van, it should be compulsory to have a vehicle capable of accelerating at a reasonable pace and powerful enough to get up inclines without slowing to 35. They are fine on motorways, but you don’t want to get stuck behind a 1.6 focus towing even a small van on a country road.

Over the years I've had various d1ck heads that just had to get in front of me, to find that the slow caravan in front of him was also stuck behind some other kn0b head not towing. And I've embarrassed a few drivers at a Traffic light Grand Prix when towing when their lane ran out long before they got passed me. 

Yep me too,can't beat tractor fuel for lots of torque

You are certainly right my old Terracan used to tow with ease, haven't tried the Jeep yet my cousin is bringing the correct towbar over from the USA in the spring but I really don't forsee any problems with the power that's got !

[biggriffin]

The only people who hate towing are those that can't

I can, reverse them as well, but I will never buy own one of the poxy things, even if I buy a transit van,.

The owners should be made to take a test with them,(lorryist's with trailer entitlement, exempted) no matter how long they've held a licence, and they should also be mot'd.

[Andy B]

The only people who hate towing are those that can't

I can, reverse them as well, but I will never buy own one of the poxy things, even if I buy a transit van,.

The owners should be made to take a test with them,(lorryist's with trailer entitlement, exempted) no matter how long they've held a licence, and they should also be mot'd.

A youngster already has to take a test if they want to tow anything substantial  ..... the MOT has been done to death & was kicked into touch a few years ago.

[Andy B]

The only people who hate towing are those that can't

I can, reverse them as well, but I will never buy own one of the poxy things, even if I buy a transit van,.

The owners should be made to take a test with them,(lorryist's with trailer entitlement, exempted) no matter how long they've held a licence, and they should also be mot'd.

Maybe they should be made to take a further test of when not to sit in the middle lane of a motorway for mile after mile ....

[Doctor Gollum]

Middle lane hogging applies across the board...

A side effect of dumbing down the car test. Which in turn is why you need a separate test(s) to do anything useful 

Anyone can drive well or badly. But it takes a special type of idiot to sit at 50 in lane one on a motorway in a car or drive with their fog lights only because they can't see and have failed to grasp that a) it's dark and b) a) notwithstanding, they haven't turned the switch far enough to switch the headlights on... Both of which causes them to slam on the brakes at every potential hazard because they can't actually see the road stnuc.

Rant over

[Andy B]

Middle lane hogging applies across the board...

A side effect of dumbing down the car test. Which in turn is why you need a separate test(s) to do anything useful 

Anyone can drive well or badly. But it takes a special type of idiot to sit at 50 in lane one on a motorway in a car or drive with their fog lights only because they can't see and have failed to grasp that a) it's dark and b) a) notwithstanding, they haven't turned the switch far enough to switch the headlights on... Both of which causes them to slam on the brakes at every potential hazard because they can't actually see the road stnuc.

Rant over

You mean DRLs 

[2boxerdogs]

The only people who hate towing are those that can't

I can, reverse them as well, but I will never buy own one of the poxy things, even if I buy a transit van,.

The owners should be made to take a test with them,(lorryist's with trailer entitlement, exempted) no matter how long they've held a licence, and they should also be mot'd.

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Don't see any problems with reversing a caravan , piece of piss just common sense & confidence even SWMBO can park ours up.

[Andy B]

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 even SWMBO can park ours up.

My SWMBO has only driven my car once in over 5 yrs  .... & that was only around a caravan site .... no chance of towing and as for reversing a caravan, she only goes backwards in her car if she really really has to.

[2boxerdogs]

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 even SWMBO can park ours up.

My SWMBO has only driven my car once in over 5 yrs  .... & that was only around a caravan site .... no chance of towing and as for reversing a caravan, she only goes backwards in her car if she really really has to.

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Mine drives the Jeep at every opportunity says she prefers it to her Forester, but dislikes the Merc to drive.