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Title: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: zirk on 23 November 2020, 19:32:37
So here's a thought, how much Import Tax on the Oxford Vaccination are we going to charge our EU Members when we leave with Brexit at the end of December ?  :y

Or we just going to give it away like everything we've invented over the years, I mean why change the habit of a lifetime.  ::)
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vacation and Brexit Tax
Post by: STEMO on 23 November 2020, 19:34:25
So here's a thought, how much Import Tax on the Oxford Vacation are we going to charge our EU Members when we leave with Brexit at the end of December ?  :y

Or we just going to give it away like everything we've invented over the years, I mean why change the habit of a lifetime.  ::)
A holiday in Oxford? No thanks.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vacation and Brexit Tax
Post by: zirk on 23 November 2020, 19:36:13
Huh, bloody Android Spell checker  ::)
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vacation and Brexit Tax
Post by: STEMO on 23 November 2020, 19:43:54
Huh, bloody Android Spell checker  ::)
A technically minded young fella such as yourself should know about such things  ;D
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Varche on 23 November 2020, 20:20:56
I read somewhere the vaccine that has to be kept at -70C is about £15 a dose and the other one about £28. Cannot see any reason why the Oxford one wouldn’t  also be sold at a similar price.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: ronnyd on 23 November 2020, 20:47:30
I think that the Oxford vaccine doesn;t require such stringent storage.  :-\
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: LC0112G on 23 November 2020, 20:58:55
So here's a thought, how much Import Tax on the Oxford Vaccination are we going to charge our EU Members when we leave with Brexit at the end of December ?  :y

Huh?

The UK sets import duties and taxes on stuff imported to the UK, which ultimately UK consumers end up paying.

The EU sets import duties and taxes on stuff imported to the EU, which ultimately EU consumers end up paying.

The UK won't be setting import taxes into the EU any more than the EU sets import taxes into the UK (post BREXIT).

And finally, the IP involved in the vaccine will be owned by either Oxford University or Astra/Zenica (or some combination of the two), so what makes you think HMG have any say on who gets the vaccine, and how much they have to pay for it? 
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: BazaJT on 23 November 2020, 21:01:05
Oxford vaccine is said to be cheaper than either the Pfizer or Moderna ones,it's also said to be easier to transport/store than either of those too.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 November 2020, 21:02:20
So here's a thought, how much Import Tax on the Oxford Vaccination are we going to charge our EU Members when we leave with Brexit at the end of December ?  :y

Huh?

The UK sets import duties and taxes on stuff imported to the UK, which ultimately UK consumers end up paying.

The EU sets import duties and taxes on stuff imported to the EU, which ultimately EU consumers end up paying.

The UK won't be setting import taxes into the EU any more than the EU sets import taxes into the UK (post BREXIT).

And finally, the IP involved in the vaccine will be owned by either Oxford University or Astra/Zenica (or some combination of the two), so what makes you think HMG have any say on who gets the vaccine, and how much they have to pay for it? 
At risk of being rude... Haven't we already paid for it...  ::)
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: LC0112G on 23 November 2020, 21:07:13
So here's a thought, how much Import Tax on the Oxford Vaccination are we going to charge our EU Members when we leave with Brexit at the end of December ?  :y

Huh?

The UK sets import duties and taxes on stuff imported to the UK, which ultimately UK consumers end up paying.

The EU sets import duties and taxes on stuff imported to the EU, which ultimately EU consumers end up paying.

The UK won't be setting import taxes into the EU any more than the EU sets import taxes into the UK (post BREXIT).

And finally, the IP involved in the vaccine will be owned by either Oxford University or Astra/Zenica (or some combination of the two), so what makes you think HMG have any say on who gets the vaccine, and how much they have to pay for it? 
At risk of being rude... Haven't we already paid for it...  ::)

Who is 'we', and what have 'we' paid for?

As far as I can see HMG have paid for 100M doses (or something).  HMG do not have any ownership of the Intelectual Property.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Nick W on 23 November 2020, 21:08:59
I think that the Oxford vaccine doesn;t require such stringent storage.  :-\


Which will make its use and transport considerably easier. And therefore cheaper to implement, as it's no different to any other common vaccine - like flu vaccine. Each dose is much cheaper than the others.


Those are all excellent reasons to adopt it.


I have reservations about long term side effects, especially as the studies have been pushed through much quicker than is normal. Those reservations aren't enough to persuade me not to accept it
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 November 2020, 21:12:13
It reportedly requires two doses to reach 90% effectivity.

Personally I would prefer to pay slightly more, once, for a higher protection rate.  :-\
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 November 2020, 21:16:51
It reportedly requires two doses to reach 90% effectivity.

Personally I would prefer to pay slightly more, once, for a higher protection rate.  :-\

I believe all of the vaccines tested were based on 2 doses.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: dave the builder on 23 November 2020, 21:26:35
2 tracking nano chips  :-\
have they been developed by the same ijjuts who set up UK's "track and trace" system  :P
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: STEMO on 23 November 2020, 21:45:12
2 tracking nano chips  :-\
have they been developed by the same ijjuts who set up UK's "track and trace" system  :P
They'll get bored tracking me to the park and Asda.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: dave the builder on 23 November 2020, 21:57:10
2 tracking nano chips  :-\
have they been developed by the same ijjuts who set up UK's "track and trace" system  :P
They'll get bored tracking me to the park and Asda.
And PROOVE you've not been out on the rob  :)

(apart from mugging people in the park, shoplifting in asda etc )
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: STEMO on 23 November 2020, 22:21:50
2 tracking nano chips  :-\
have they been developed by the same ijjuts who set up UK's "track and trace" system  :P
They'll get bored tracking me to the park and Asda.
And PROOVE you've not been out on the rob  :)

(apart from mugging people in the park, shoplifting in asda etc )
I have a tag for that.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: New POD on 25 November 2020, 23:47:54
It reportedly requires two doses to reach 90% effectivity.

Personally I would prefer to pay slightly more, once, for a higher protection rate.  :-\

There are medical reasons for having to do it in 2 stages. If you give 2 big a dose the first time, the body fights the vaccines and it's not effective.  So you give a small dose initially, the body learns to accept it, and they you can give a second larger dose.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Shackeng on 26 November 2020, 07:34:09
Oh goody, we’re going to be injected with monkey s**t.
 
The Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccine is made from a cold-causing ‘adenovirus’ that was isolated from the stool of chimpanzees and modified so that it no longer replicates in cells.  :-X
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: dave the builder on 26 November 2020, 08:56:37
What's the worst that can happen when you start modifying wild animal DNA in a lab and set it free to the populous  :-\
oh wait  :-[
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: STEMO on 26 November 2020, 11:32:58
Better start panic buying bananas.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Rangie on 26 November 2020, 12:17:02
Won't need a car, we'll be able to swing through the trees.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 November 2020, 13:25:35
Oh goody, we’re going to be injected with monkey s**t.
 
The Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccine is made from a cold-causing ‘adenovirus’ that was isolated from the stool of chimpanzees and modified so that it no longer replicates in cells.  :-X
Presumably because the 'bugs' are suited to primates and there won't kill us, and it's possible that it's a byproduct of that chimpanzees' chemistry so wasn't readily found elsewhere.

Either way, the notion that we're all going to be injected with 'monkey poo' is ridiculous scaremongering at best.  ???
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Entwood on 27 November 2020, 13:31:30
Oh goody, we’re going to be injected with monkey s**t.
 
The Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccine is made from a cold-causing ‘adenovirus’ that was isolated from the stool of chimpanzees and modified so that it no longer replicates in cells.  :-X
Presumably because the 'bugs' are suited to primates and there won't kill us, and it's possible that it's a byproduct of that chimpanzees' chemistry so wasn't readily found elsewhere.

Either way, the notion that we're all going to be injected with 'monkey poo' is ridiculous scaremongering at best.  ???

About the same level of scaremongering as your insistence that the US elections were rigged aginst Trump ???  :)
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 November 2020, 14:38:42
Slightly obsessive perhaps, but not scaremongering by any stretch.

There are however people stupid enough to not have the vaccine because they believe it is actually made of monkey poo.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 27 November 2020, 15:42:58
.................or they will believe that it is all part of a conspiracy to control the masses ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Some are that stupid after all! ::) ::)  ;)
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 November 2020, 15:47:58
Mock away if it helps.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Nick W on 27 November 2020, 15:53:17
We haven't reached that level yet.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 27 November 2020, 15:55:50
The reason I will think long and hard before having it is simply that  I dont really do medicines. Have got this far without them, so it wont be easy to change the habits of a lifetime.
Swmbo will have little choice but to have it, so I might see how she gets on with it for a while and then decide.
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: STEMO on 27 November 2020, 15:57:05
The reason I will think long and hard before having it is simply that  I dont really do medicines. Have got this far without them, so it wont be easy to change the habits of a lifetime.
Swmbo will have little choice but to have it, so I might see how she gets on with it for a while and then decide.
You're not a Jehovas Witness are you, Albs?  ;D
Title: Re: Oxford COV19 Vaccination and Brexit Tax
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 27 November 2020, 17:04:33
Nah, dont think he would have me.  ::) ;D