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[Olympia5776]

I was on HMS Jupiter or Hermione (old age setting in ...... it was one or the other  ) escorting tankers through the Straights of Hormuz over 30 yrs ago for this very reason

Ahhh , the old Leander class Frigates. I worked on the Juno ( navigation training ship ) and the Jupiter in the late eighties. Great old ships .

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The price of oil shooting up is a very good thing...………………...unless you've neglected to buy oil shares / futures in the last couple of years. 

But what happens when the oil supplies dry up due to conflict in the Gulf with oil tankers stopped from safely sailing through the Gulf of Oman?

There will be a real scarcity, so the price per barrel will go through the roof. Kerching. 

[Andy B]

I was on HMS Jupiter or Hermione (old age setting in ...... it was one or the other  ) escorting tankers through the Straights of Hormuz over 30 yrs ago for this very reason

Ahhh , the old Leander class Frigates. I worked on the Juno ( navigation training ship ) and the Jupiter in the late eighties. Great old ships .

Indeed. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

The price of oil shooting up is a very good thing...………………...unless you've neglected to buy oil shares / futures in the last couple of years. 

But what happens when the oil supplies dry up due to conflict in the Gulf with oil tankers stopped from safely sailing through the Gulf of Oman?

There will be a real scarcity, so the price per barrel will go through the roof. Kerching. 

And it won't affect the price (or non price) of 2nd hand veggie oil either! 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Actually it might. It could soar to 50p per litre. If the scarcity lasts long enough my old Merc will be worth a fortune. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Actually it might. It could soar to 50p per litre. If the scarcity lasts long enough my old Merc will be worth a fortune. 

Yes and I'd imagine that old diesels capable of running on veggie oil are getting rare as well. 

[Lizzie Zoom]

I don't think Iran is powerful enough to "go it alone"so it would then depend who'd back them up.Someone said many years ago that if there ever was a WWIII it would kick off in the Middle East.

Recently I heard another prediction that the final conflict would start somewhere that was not expected, and not the favourite, traditional, runner of, as you say, the Middle East and centring on Jerusalem going back to the time of Jesus.

Whatever will be, will be, it's not for us to see, and as mankind is so war minded, it will happen eventually!

[Lizzie Zoom]

Something happened, or rather did not happen this evening, and for the conspiracy theorists on here claiming complete state control of our news, well the BBC, it could be interesting. It has made me think, why?

It was the fact that the 1830 ITV news made no mention, not a word,about this ongoing international incident with the tankers!

Not news worthy? I do not think so as the BBC and, yes all other international news agencies are full of it on their web sites, let alone live television news programmes!

I know the Boris voting situation is important, and the awful comments of Joe Brand need questioning, but to not mention an international event that could have grave consequences and lead with the former I think is amazing.


So who is being fully censored now, ITV and not the BBC who report every international incident and events, such as the Hong Kong protests getting great coverage and this morning the tanker bombing.

Makes me wonder

[Raeturbo]

Good, I like to see an open mind. It seems like until something substantial happens then the story will be held. IMO whoever is responsible for the attack Iran is on very thin ice!

[Rods2]

Plenty of external actors that would like to see an Iran v USA war, so best to keep an open mind on who did this until more is known. If the UK government deems that it is not in the public interest to know then a D-notice will be issued.

[Lizzie Zoom]

The fact that these tankers were Japanese strikes me as a very interesting factor. Could be coincidence of course, but the Japanese Prime Minister has made a point of meeting up with the Iranian leader, to request they stop all nuclear development, and wants a meeting with Kim Jon to pursued N. Korea to stop nuclear development, whilst re-itterating the close ties to the USA with the Trump visit who trying also to stop those countries developing nuclear weapons. Interesting.

All players in place, so light the fuse?  By whom, and why we may never know, with even Putin setting up this game to create an international incident in that part of the World to suit his intentions and play against the USA. 

Complicated conjecture yes, diplomatically a possibility, well yes, and remember how 'The Players' of the time all did not work together diplomatically, when they were wanting a fight, after the shooting of Archduke Franz Ferdinand was the excuse to start WW1.

[Lizzie Zoom]

The fact that these tankers were Japanese strikes me as a very interesting factor. Could be coincidence of course, but the Japanese Prime Minister has made a point of meeting up with the Iranian leader, to request they stop all nuclear development, and wants a meeting with Kim Jon to pursued N. Korea to stop nuclear development, whilst re-itterating the close ties to the USA with the Trump visit who trying also to stop those countries developing nuclear weapons. Then of course the Japanese PM has had a meeting with the Chinese leader about closer trade links, just as Trump is tightening down on trade tariffs.  Interesting.

All players in place, so light the fuse?  By whom, and why we may never know, with even Putin setting up this game to create an international incident in that part of the World to suit his intentions and play against the USA. 

Complicated conjecture yes, diplomatically a possibility, well yes, and remember how 'The Players' of the time all did not work together diplomatically, when they were wanting a fight, after the shooting of Archduke Franz Ferdinand was the excuse to start WW1.
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[BazaJT]

It's now been reported that the USA have blamed the Iranians backed up[surprise,surprise by the UK ]Obviously the Iranians have completely refuted these allegations,will the truth ever really be known?

[Raeturbo]

Well they have bit of black and white film now 

[Lizzie Zoom]

It's now been reported that the USA have blamed the Iranians backed up[surprise,surprise by the UK ]Obviously the Iranians have completely refuted these allegations,will the truth ever really be known?

No!

By the way Baza, very sorry for hijacking your thread on this subject. I completely missed it when it started!!!  I blame it on my older age!