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Title: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Rods2 on 18 November 2019, 20:51:41
Whatever floats your boat, it's a pity it lost the fight against the ugly tree! :D

https://www.ford.co.uk/cars/mustang-mach-e?sf112665029=1 (https://www.ford.co.uk/cars/mustang-mach-e?sf112665029=1)
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Andy B on 18 November 2019, 20:56:15
why do all so called modern gizmo cars have a touch screen glued to the dash? There doesn't seem to be any design about it ...... ah! there's a space - glue an iPad to it!
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 November 2019, 21:27:10
How can they put the iconic Mustang badge on a generic SUV?  :-\
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Viral_Jim on 18 November 2019, 22:04:46
why do all so called modern gizmo cars have a touch screen glued to the dash? There doesn't seem to be any design about it ...... ah! there's a space - glue an iPad to it!

Try the one(s) in the jaguar i-pace. They're nicely integrated into the dash, but I found them damn near unreadable in any form of daylight, much less sunshine due to reflections, made much worse by any fingerprints on them.

The vertical stuck on orientation looks a bit bobbins, but IME is much more practical.

Whatever floats your boat, it's a pity it lost the fight against the ugly tree! :D

https://www.ford.co.uk/cars/mustang-mach-e?sf112665029=1 (https://www.ford.co.uk/cars/mustang-mach-e?sf112665029=1)

Indeed, I'd take something that looks like the current 'stang, but with the AWD and sub 4s power plant out of the SUV.

Then again, putting out a milk float version that pulls the pants down of Detroit's finest 8 cylinder would upset the yanks wouldn't it?!
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 18 November 2019, 22:54:00
MrsGK wonders why theyve put a Mustang badge on a fat Mondeo...
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Keith ABS on 19 November 2019, 07:37:19
 A five door Mustang?
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 November 2019, 07:49:47
A five door Mustang?
Well, they do sell a four pot one...
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Viral_Jim on 19 November 2019, 08:36:08
A five door Mustang?
Well, they do sell a four pot one...

True, but afaik you could always buy a cylinder deficient one, if you so desired?
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 November 2019, 10:44:52
A five door Mustang?
Well, they do sell a four pot one...

True, but afaik you could always buy a cylinder deficient one, if you so desired?
The four pot one is, by definition, suffering from a four cylinder deficiency...

A 1.0 ecoboost screams desperation ;D
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 19 November 2019, 12:27:41
why do all so called modern gizmo cars have a touch screen glued to the dash? There doesn't seem to be any design about it ...... ah! there's a space - glue an iPad to it!

I agree, Mr Beanz. :-\

Whatever happened to it sliding effortlessly into the dash. :-\
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: STEMO on 19 November 2019, 12:30:27
why do all so called modern gizmo cars have a touch screen glued to the dash? There doesn't seem to be any design about it ...... ah! there's a space - glue an iPad to it!

I agree, Mr Beanz. :-\

Whatever happened to it sliding effortlessly into the dash. :-\
And don't tell me that's not a distraction from driving.
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Andy B on 19 November 2019, 18:30:50
....
And don't tell me that's not a distraction from driving.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 19 November 2019, 22:38:28
Hell!!

I heard they were doing one, and I thought any electric version fo the mustang was a horrendous corruption of the breed.... (yes, the future is electric, no getting away from that, but as far as I'm concerned Mustang, Corvette etc should be the last IC-engined cars standing, once 99% of all new cars sold are EV in 2040 or whenever.) American muscle cars are, by definition, supposed to be offensive, and against 'society', like a Rock song - making a 'nice' rock song, about trees and happy dolphins, sung by. 

But that?? It's marketing in charge, clearly.

I'd love to imagine how the initial briefing went - "right, guys, we want to do a 5 door hatch Mustang, and it's an EV" and every designer who really loves cars, and the passion they can evoke, and the spirit and heritage, and noise refused to be a part of it and walked out the door... Those that were left, who weren't really fussed, 'so long as it pays the bills'-types, they designed the car.

Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: BazaJT on 20 November 2019, 08:50:16
According to my son,Ford are on about killing off the Fiesta.Focus,Edge and what they know as Fusion in America at least.I have seen also that they're releasing a new Puma which is a 5 door SUV looking thing that's bigger than a Focus,one of the selling points of which is that you can carry two sets of golf clubs upright in the boot :-X
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: STEMO on 20 November 2019, 09:48:51
According to my son,Ford are on about killing off the Fiesta.Focus,Edge and what they know as Fusion in America at least.I have seen also that they're releasing a new Puma which is a 5 door SUV looking thing that's bigger than a Focus,one of the selling points of which is that you can carry two sets of golf clubs upright in the boot :-X
Killing off the best selling car in the UK? Seems like a plan.
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 20 November 2019, 10:05:34
Car companies are (and have been for a long time) moving away from the traditional 3-box saloon - almost all have rejected this. However as above, the 'market trend' is SUVs and stupid pretend soft-roaders, so either doing that, or morphing the 'mainstay' of the 5 door hatch into said SUV-thing is the next step. Maybe the Focus will just grow upwards, or maybe they'll repeat what they did with the Escort, and scrap the name.

Also sub-brands are everywhere now - Range Rover of course was a (the first?) sub-brand, but now there's SVO as a sub-sub brand, Mini, sub brand to BMW of course, 500 is also a range of cars in its own right, too. Looks like Mustang is next. Mustang MPV next. Yey.  ???
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 November 2019, 10:11:55
Modified Focus platform, manufactured in Mexico.

There was a suspicion that Ford were looking to water the Mustang brand down by using it to badge other variants, I guess this is the first.

Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Nick W on 20 November 2019, 12:22:17
According to my son,Ford are on about killing off the Fiesta.Focus,Edge and what they know as Fusion in America at least.I have seen also that they're releasing a new Puma which is a 5 door SUV looking thing that's bigger than a Focus,one of the selling points of which is that you can carry two sets of golf clubs upright in the boot :-X
Killing off the best selling car in the UK? Seems like a plan.


isn't the best selling car in the UK still a 3-series BMW?
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Viral_Jim on 20 November 2019, 12:37:43

But that?? It's marketing in charge, clearly.


Its standard practice these days, gone are the days when M-Division, AMG etc actually meant something, now they are just stick on badges and trim for your 4-pot diesel rep-mobile. I guess its the modern trend for trying to make out that you are doing better than you actually are but personally, I just don't understand the appeal of a car that looks sporty but doesn't have the 'Go'.

TBH I don't see the electric 'Mustang' as any more ridiculous than the way a lot of performance ICE cars are going. Take the Audit S6 for example, a diesel with fake big bore 'exhausts' that plays V8 noise over the radio - what a sad excuse for a performance car.
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: STEMO on 20 November 2019, 13:20:32

But that?? It's marketing in charge, clearly.


Its standard practice these days, gone are the days when M-Division, AMG etc actually meant something, now they are just stick on badges and trim for your 4-pot diesel rep-mobile. I guess its the modern trend for trying to make out that you are doing better than you actually are but personally, I just don't understand the appeal of a car that looks sporty but doesn't have the 'Go'.

TBH I don't see the electric 'Mustang' as any more ridiculous than the way a lot of performance ICE cars are going. Take the Audit S6 for example, a diesel with fake big bore 'exhausts' that plays V8 noise over the radio - what a sad excuse for a performance car.
BMWs shouldn't carry any sort of M badge unless they are the actual M Sport.
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: aaronjb on 20 November 2019, 14:37:34

But that?? It's marketing in charge, clearly.


Its standard practice these days, gone are the days when M-Division, AMG etc actually meant something, now they are just stick on badges and trim for your 4-pot diesel rep-mobile. I guess its the modern trend for trying to make out that you are doing better than you actually are but personally, I just don't understand the appeal of a car that looks sporty but doesn't have the 'Go'.

TBH I don't see the electric 'Mustang' as any more ridiculous than the way a lot of performance ICE cars are going. Take the Audit S6 for example, a diesel with fake big bore 'exhausts' that plays V8 noise over the radio - what a sad excuse for a performance car.
BMWs shouldn't carry any sort of M badge unless they are the actual M Sport.

M Sport = dressed up normal car.. You mean "unless they are a true M-car", I guess.. but then, there are so many of those now - M2, M3, M4, M5, M6..
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: STEMO on 20 November 2019, 15:09:01

But that?? It's marketing in charge, clearly.


Its standard practice these days, gone are the days when M-Division, AMG etc actually meant something, now they are just stick on badges and trim for your 4-pot diesel rep-mobile. I guess its the modern trend for trying to make out that you are doing better than you actually are but personally, I just don't understand the appeal of a car that looks sporty but doesn't have the 'Go'.

TBH I don't see the electric 'Mustang' as any more ridiculous than the way a lot of performance ICE cars are going. Take the Audit S6 for example, a diesel with fake big bore 'exhausts' that plays V8 noise over the radio - what a sad excuse for a performance car.
BMWs shouldn't carry any sort of M badge unless they are the actual M Sport.

M Sport = dressed up normal car.. You mean "unless they are a true M-car", I guess.. but then, there are so many of those now - M2, M3, M4, M5, M6..
Yep, that's what I meant.
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Viral_Jim on 20 November 2019, 20:51:08
but then, there are so many of those now - M2, M3, M4, M5, M6..

Tbh I don't mind how many of those they knock out, given they are still, to a great extent 'proper', although I still think that piping exhaust noise through speakers is rather sad!

Given the choice, I'd much rather have a performance car that looks ordinary, rather than the other way around.
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 20 November 2019, 21:38:37
Consider the difference - did you grow up watching The Battle of Britain, Ben Hur, Zulu - where the impressive spectacles, and 'effects' were actually real, and looked huge and impressive because they were huge and impressive... or you grew up with Avatar, Transformers, Inception, everything is CGI, and fake... they're the ones that won't/don't have problem with faked, piped engine noise.

I'm a Millennial, I suppose - but grew up watching the former, I like my entertainment to be real, ta.
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 November 2019, 04:30:21
If you're the sort of person who drives a diesel Audi S Line, then you have bigger issues...
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: YZ250 on 21 November 2019, 08:43:54
If you're the sort of person who drives a diesel Audi S Line, then you have bigger issues...

 :-[ :-[  Oh dear, that'll be me then.   ;D  What have I done wrong now.   :-\ :)
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: aaronjb on 21 November 2019, 08:56:47
but then, there are so many of those now - M2, M3, M4, M5, M6..

Tbh I don't mind how many of those they knock out, given they are still, to a great extent 'proper', although I still think that piping exhaust noise through speakers is rather sad!

Given the choice, I'd much rather have a performance car that looks ordinary, rather than the other way around.

True - same here, really.. in fact, I wouldn't say no if someone were to give me a nice M4. A friend (two test-drives everything sideways) told me I'd love it - because the car is constantly on the edge of trying to kill you by swapping ends ;D

If you're the sort of person who drives a diesel Audi S Line, then you have bigger issues...

 :-[ :-[  Oh dear, that'll be me then.   ;D  What have I done wrong now.   :-\ :)

Well .. you own a BMW and an Audi so .. everything?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 21 November 2019, 09:55:41
Someone pop round and explain what the lever on the steering column that makes amber lights flash is for... ;)
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: YZ250 on 21 November 2019, 10:13:22

If you're the sort of person who drives a diesel Audi S Line, then you have bigger issues...

 :-[ :-[  Oh dear, that'll be me then.   ;D  What have I done wrong now.   :-\ :)

Well .. you own a BMW and an Audi so .. everything?  ;) ;D

Having one (knob car  ::) ) was bad enough, but having both I stand no chance on here do I.  ;D
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: YZ250 on 21 November 2019, 10:25:51
Someone pop round and explain what the lever on the steering column that makes amber lights flash is for... ;)

Ah see, that's where you're wrong, as I do know what it's for. It illuminates the two second warning lights, which rather courteously lets other drivers know that I'm pulling out in two seconds ...... whether they like it or not.   :) ;D
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 November 2019, 14:44:06

If you're the sort of person who drives a diesel Audi S Line, then you have bigger issues...

 :-[ :-[  Oh dear, that'll be me then.   ;D  What have I done wrong now.   :-\ :)

Well .. you own a BMW and an Audi so .. everything?  ;) ;D

Having one (knob car  ::) ) was bad enough, but having both I stand no chance on here do I.  ;D
Admitting the problem is the first step to dealing with it, so there's hope yet :y
Title: Re: Ford Mustang Milk Float
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 November 2019, 16:24:27
but then, there are so many of those now - M2, M3, M4, M5, M6..

Tbh I don't mind how many of those they knock out, given they are still, to a great extent 'proper', although I still think that piping exhaust noise through speakers is rather sad!

Given the choice, I'd much rather have a performance car that looks ordinary, rather than the other way around.

They had to as the power plant has very little exhaust noise due to the Turbos, JLR opted for the supercharger hence lots of exhaust roar.........but not for much longer sadly