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[Rods2]

Many of you will be aware that Ukraine, Russia the EU had talks on Tuesday hosted in Minsk, Belarus. The talks were not only on the conflict in Ukraine but also the 'impact' on Russian trade 'interests' if Ukraine fully implements the EU Association Agreement.

I was aware this morning that Russian has given Southern Europe due warning to fully fill up their gas reserves where they are going to cut off all supplies through Russian pipelines.

http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/220163.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

There has now been this story in the Russian newspaper Tass, that Russia intends to cut off all gas to Europe if they don't cancel the trade agreement with Ukraine.

So the EU gives in to Putler's blackmail or we accept that Europe is going to be short of gas and don't think where the UK is almost self-sufficient with agreements to make up the shortfall through countries like Qatar and UAE to supplying LPG to UK terminals that it won't affect us. This is because in times of energy shortages for geo-political reasons all EU energy resources are pooled and shared.

Personally, I think we should tell Russia to stick their gas where the sun doesn't shine as no gas or oil sales to Western Europe will crash their economy, where the Russian government relies on this for 50% of their income with the majority of the sales to us. They did it before with Berlin and we won with the Berlin airlift, I'm sure that we can win again, where oil and gas prices are currently falling where there is a glut, if we all pull together and accept they maybe a bit of hardship.

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/08/27/minsk-results-putins-new-demand-and-a-second-front-against-ukraine/

What do others think?

[plym ian]

I don't use gas

[chrisgixer]

Ooh no. None of us have considered this at all

[Varche]

Good news for an independent Scotland. They can flog their gas and all be rich.

Surely Europe have a Plan B. They must have seen this coming(we did on OOF) and will be buying gas from Tehran via the pipeline (till IsIL or whatever they are called tomorrow blow it up.....).

[Sir Tigger KC]

Good news for an independent Scotland. They can flog their gas and all be rich.

If the Scots vote Yes next month, we'll have 2 years to ramp up production and suck as much of the stuff out as we can before handing it all over to Fishface and his pals!   

[Rog]

Getting the Rayburn sorted   

Hang on, where does our coal come from ? We don't have our own mines any more do we ?

[Rods2]

Getting the Rayburn sorted   

Hang on, where does our coal come from ? We don't have our own mines any more do we ?

Russia, Columbia and the US are our main suppliers. So no worries there then.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

The last thing I heard from economists was that Russia is in no position financially to cut supplies of anything to the West.  They need money for their economy that is floundering, so they will not cut the trade that gives them so much cash.

Scaremongering if you ask me. Nothing more, nothing less. And that is what Putin wants; fear of such cuts, as there was fear in the Cold War about what the USSR would do next. Psychology. Pure psychological propaganda, and some are falling for it!  

[omega3000]

An imminent gas price increase is due then 

[LC0112G]

I don't use gas

You do. Around 30% of electricity is generated from Gas.

Good news for an independent Scotland. They can flog their gas and all be rich.

Most Gas is in English territorial waters  . The Jocks have got most of the Oil.

[The Sheriff]

Plenty of hot air on here. Now.....how do I download it...... 


It will do you all good to have no light or heating, then you'll know how folk oop north live.
Oh...and an outside khasi that freezes over in the winter.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Plenty of hot air on here. Now.....how do I download it...... 


It will do you all good to have no light or heating, then you'll know how folk oop north live.
Oh...and an outside khasi that freezes over in the winter.

[/highlight]

Luxury....pure luxury.

I feel a Monty Python sketch coming on.....

[Rog]

An imminent gas price increase is due then 

Regardless of any international supply situation there is ALWAYS a gas price increase imminent.

[steve6367]

I don't use gas

Electric and wood here, but unfortunately 27% of UK electricity comes from burning gas. I think we should just stay out of the whole situation personally.

[Gaffers]

I don't use gas

Electric and wood here, but unfortunately 27% of UK electricity comes from burning gas. I think we should just stay out of the whole situation personally.

Yes, because appeasement has always worked so well in the past.........