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Lizzie_Zoom

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Ashya King
« on: 01 September 2014, 18:42:12 »

Are you, like me, becoming very angry about this terrible and ridiculous case where now this poor 5 year old boy's parents are being held in custody even though no crime has apparently been committed. This little boy needs his parents like at no other time, but "administrative processes" have resulted in a grossly unfair situation that makes the UK look totally uncaring and like some totalitarian state were individual choice over your children's medical treatment is not allowed!

FFS!!!!!!

I usually stay clear now of sensitive political arguments on this forum, but this has angered me. God, we treat terrorists better than this!

Below is the address of the Governments Petition site, and specifically a petition on the subject of this case.  Please sign it for humanities sake. 

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/69026

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Re: Ashya King
« Reply #1 on: 01 September 2014, 19:35:32 »

It has been badly handled, Lizzie. :-\
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« Reply #2 on: 01 September 2014, 19:51:24 »

Be interesting to see what conclusion the judge comes to.

As anyone knows who has had a long term sick person in there household, different doctors have very views on the condition and treatment.

Personal experience told me sometimes the doctor being right is often more important than the best treatment of the patient.

Those in the Eu flood to our country for treatment ( something tourism) . From that i presume you can choose where you go for your treatment if funds permit?
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« Reply #3 on: 01 September 2014, 20:20:00 »

Lizzie,
Signed, this makes my blood boil and demonstrates what a pathetic country we wave become.
The loony tune Camoron can't stop Muslim wackos coming back to this country after they have been radicalized and chop some defenceless man's head off but in a case where parents try to do the best for their child they are hunted down and treated like criminals.
A tart can have her tits augmented and other cosmetic surgery on the NHS, but people who have contributed all their lives won't get urgent treatment.
GOD I NEED A DRINK, NO SEVERAL. >:( >:( >:(
UKIP. :y
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Re: Ashya King
« Reply #4 on: 01 September 2014, 21:21:48 »

 >:( This is what happens when you defy the power of the state , you must be taught a lesson at all costs  >:(
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Re: Ashya King
« Reply #5 on: 01 September 2014, 21:55:35 »

Initially I thought someone had been clever drumming up a crime to bring the full weight of the police into this case for the kiddie's sake. Now I just think its a farce and quite disgusting...  >:(

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Re: Ashya King
« Reply #6 on: 01 September 2014, 22:07:15 »

As we only know what the "press" decide to tell/drip feed/brainwash us with .. and the press always have an agenda ..... to dramatise a situation in order to sell papers .. none of us can make a true assessment of the situation ...

I very much doubt a European Arrest Warrant would be issued simply because it was asked for, reasons would need to be given, and the health of the child would be the major concern at that time.

It's all well and good being an "armchair expert" .. but it might be useful to have some actual FACTS before pronouncing sentence ???

Of course ... the chance to throw UKIP publicity must never be overlooked ... but .. pray tell .. just what has this got to do with ANY political party ??? It is purely a matter for the medics/police/Courts ...

but why let the truth get in the way of a good paper selling/political ranting story  ??
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Re: Ashya King
« Reply #7 on: 01 September 2014, 22:13:44 »

There is a lot more to this than we are being told, initially the suggestion was it was a religious decision on behalf of the parents, that can't now be right as he had his / an operation.............. :-\ :-\

Health will be worried as it took 8 hours before the disappearance of this boy, apparently against the will of doctors, to be reported to the Police............. :-X :-X

What if, parents felt he could be treated better in another hospital, as they do not appear to have prevented treatment I struggle to know what law they have broken, the feeding system only needs plugging in to charge it.

Some health professionals have unreal expectations of families, and choose to be ignorant of family circumstances............. :-X :-X

Don't get me started, this case is a right Mess and I doubt the real truth will come out, the only 'Risk' I have heard is about his feeding machine going flat, and the use of it, many parents use this feeding technique on a daily basis............. :-X :-X
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Re: Ashya King
« Reply #8 on: 01 September 2014, 22:22:49 »

Like so many other news stories, there is way more than meets the eye here. It's a bit daft to get worked up over something that you have a superficial knowledge of (because the full facts are being withheld). Absorbing tabloid drip feed is something that people should be wary of in this day and age. Keep an open mind. Losing your cool makes you look a fool.

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« Reply #9 on: 01 September 2014, 22:40:20 »

Alright it's a news story best just to ignore it without knowing all the facts. :( Well in my opinion if we don't ask for more we won't know the facts. The bottom line is that the over the top reaction in this case by issuing a European Arrest warrant when no actual crime has been committed, compared to the fact that muslims can leave and be welcomed back after killing innocents
demonstrates the priorities of this pathetic government.  >:( >:( >:(
The only alternative is to give the people's party a chance. :y
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Re: Ashya King
« Reply #10 on: 01 September 2014, 23:41:58 »

Are you, like me, becoming very angry about this ...

Yes.
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Re: Ashya King
« Reply #11 on: 02 September 2014, 07:57:02 »

Was just wondering. If the child was removed against advice and on the journey to wherever had sadly died, would the parents then be charged with.............??
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« Reply #12 on: 02 September 2014, 08:17:57 »

If the hospital staff reported the child as having been abducted, then Hants Police reacted in a way that any person reasonably might... Though perhaps they jumped the gun slightly. That said the staff at the hospital had a duty of care to ensure that the course of treatment they had chosen was working as intended. They could only do that with the child in their care/control.

The parents seem to have gone outside the processes in place for such situations... They coukd have left the child in Southampton (with no express consent to further treatment until a second opinion had been sought). Apparently they went to Spain to sell a property to pay for treatment in The Czech Republic :o

No rational person would entertain taking a seriously ill child, who is mid treatment on a 3500 mile road trip... (I assume the plan once the property was sold was to drive to Prague).

So yes the Police possibly over reacted, but the parents actions were, shall we say, misguided at best, negligent at worst :-\
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Re: Ashya King
« Reply #13 on: 02 September 2014, 08:29:29 »

The issue I have is that the parents took the child without discussion from a place of care there by risking the child's health, that is the bad bit.

They are now suffering (possibly a poorly handled and over blown) the consequence of that foolish decision.
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« Reply #14 on: 02 September 2014, 08:34:03 »

Just been watching the limp wristed tosser deputy Prime Minister Clegg droning on about spending A BILLION POUNDS!!!!! on free school meals ermm :-\ now let me think :-\ Proton Beam machine or free school meals, Proton Beam machine or free school meals, say no more,other than shame on you GB. >:( AND START GETTING YOUR PRIORITIES IN ORDER!!!
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