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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Andy A on 14 August 2018, 08:42:31
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It it OK to use this silicone grease on the front brake caliper slider pins to lube them up? I already have this handy.
(https://s6.postimg.cc/i8i25ovj5/P1050405.jpg)
Or is there a recommended grease to use?
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It looks fine with rubber but there is no mention of temperature.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Granville-Red-Rubber-Grease-Hydraulic-Lubricant-Brake-Caliper-Piston-500g-Tin/302636723893?epid=8015691171&hash=item46768deeb5:g:P8UAAOSwEYBagfKS
Like this. Don't use copper grease.
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I have started using red rubber grease on the caliper sliders on my cars after years of using copper grease.
It doesn't effect the rubber covers, has not deterioated like copper grease over time and has remained stable with high temeratures.
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It looks fine with rubber but there is no mention of temperature.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Granville-Red-Rubber-Grease-Hydraulic-Lubricant-Brake-Caliper-Piston-500g-Tin/302636723893?epid=8015691171&hash=item46768deeb5:g:P8UAAOSwEYBagfKS
Like this. Don't use copper grease.
I think but I'm not sure -40degC to +200degC found in this link. https://www.lubesetc.com/silicone-grease-lubricants-22-c.asp. Will send them an email.
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It'll probably be fine. The Omega is hardly a point and squirt car.
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It'll probably be fine. The Omega is hardly a point and squirt car.
I'll give it ago and if I get any problems will report back. :y
Thanks all for your advice. :y :y
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It'll probably be fine. The Omega is hardly a point and squirt car.
I'll give it ago and if I get any problems will report back. :y
Thanks all for your advice. :y :y
Glad to help, if indeed I did!
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It'll probably be fine. The Omega is hardly a point and squirt car.
I'll give it ago and if I get any problems will report back. :y
Thanks all for your advice. :y :y
Glad to help, if indeed I did!
Any help or advice is always grateful. :y
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IME, anything slippy will do. Copperslip. Grease. Margarine.
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IME, anything slippy will do. Copperslip. Grease. Margarine.
Please don't use just anything slippy. Copperslip soaks into the rubbers over time and causes the rubbers to swell. This can lead to ineffective brakes. I'm not sure on the other suggested lubes, but personally I'd use the proper stuff. Granted, the sliders are less of an issue than the piston seal and dust capm but still.
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It'll probably be fine. The Omega is hardly a point and squirt car.
Clearly never driven yours hard...
200° isn't enough. Use this at your peril.
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It'll probably be fine. The Omega is hardly a point and squirt car.
Clearly never driven yours hard...
200° isn't enough. Use this at your peril.
The reason I said 'probably' OK, is because whilst brakes get hot, the caliper brackets shouldn't be as hot as the friction surfaces. As most people measure the heat on the friction surfaces, I would have though 200 degrees is enough. But I'd use red brake grease in the first place.
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Urm, red brake grease specs....
1 x Granville Red Rubber Grease 500g Tin
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Specification Information
Operating Temperature: -20°C to +120°C
Which is a little worrying.
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The boiling point of DOT4 brake fluid is only 230 C, so if the caliper support has got up to 200 C I think the grease would be the last of your worries, TBH.
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Food for thought*...
https://youtu.be/VEL9diENZY0
What happens to the front brakes on a heavy car used on an nsl dual carriageway with lots of roundabouts will get alot hotter for longer. If parked immediately after, then heat soak could become a concern.
*This test, whilst interesting, is on a light weight car which is stationary.
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Food for thought*...
https://youtu.be/VEL9diENZY0
How about this test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPf4qwtr8Fs ;D :D :D
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Nobody has mentioned the "TheBoy Milton Keynes" test, I notice. ::)
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Nobody has mentioned the "TheBoy Milton Keynes" test, I notice. ::)
If I can induce brake fade between Horsham and Crawley, it comes as no surprise that he changes his pads every month ;D
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Nobody has mentioned the "TheBoy Milton Keynes" test, I notice. ::)
If I can induce brake fade between Horsham and Crawley, it comes as no surprise that he changes his pads every month ;D
I did that one with a 1700kg trailer with (as I later discovered) no brakes in July. ::)
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The banjo front brake washers from Vauxhall. Can they be fitted anyway round?
The reason I ask is that I seen a you tube video once but can't find it now that stated they should be fitted a certain way round.
Thanks
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Nobody has mentioned the "TheBoy Milton Keynes" test, I notice. ::)
And that's why I use LM on my sliders. And (proper) coppaslip on pad backings.
Across MK, if you try reasonably hard, you can exceed the limits of fresh, new DOT4. 200+ bhp, 1800kgs plus driver, small pads, and if your unlucky, a need to come to a standstill every half a mile is hard on the brakes.
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Nobody has mentioned the "TheBoy Milton Keynes" test, I notice. ::)
And that's why I use LM on my sliders. And (proper) coppaslip on pad backings.
Across MK, if you try reasonably hard, you can exceed the limits of fresh, new DOT4. 200+ bhp, 1800kgs plus driver, small pads, and if your unlucky, a need to come to a standstill every half a mile is hard on the brakes.
Whats that in English money? ???
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Nobody has mentioned the "TheBoy Milton Keynes" test, I notice. ::)
And that's why I use LM on my sliders. And (proper) coppaslip on pad backings.
Across MK, if you try reasonably hard, you can exceed the limits of fresh, new DOT4. 200+ bhp, 1800kgs plus driver, small pads, and if your unlucky, a need to come to a standstill every half a mile is hard on the brakes.
Whats that in English money? ???
1.8 tons ::)
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Food for thought*...
https://youtu.be/VEL9diENZY0
How about this test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPf4qwtr8Fs ;D :D :D
Slight brake bind, offside front. Pass and advise 😂😂😂
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Nobody has mentioned the "TheBoy Milton Keynes" test, I notice. ::)
And that's why I use LM on my sliders. And (proper) coppaslip on pad backings.
Across MK, if you try reasonably hard, you can exceed the limits of fresh, new DOT4. 200+ bhp, 1800kgs plus driver, small pads, and if your unlucky, a need to come to a standstill every half a mile is hard on the brakes.
Whats that in English money? ???
1.8 tons ::)
Now that's a lot of weight. Must be the bigger V6 engine. :)
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Now that's a lot of weight. Must be the bigger V6 engine. :)
They are all about the same, give of take 100kg depending on spec/gearbox
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From memory the handbook quotes a kerb weight for the F/L 3L Elite saloon as something like 1780lbs[could be slightly off on that figure]out of a 2200lb ton.Being pedantic 1800kgs is 1.8tonnes[not tons] :P ;D
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Nobody has mentioned the "TheBoy Milton Keynes" test, I notice. ::)
And that's why I use LM on my sliders. And (proper) coppaslip on pad backings.
Across MK, if you try reasonably hard, you can exceed the limits of fresh, new DOT4. 200+ bhp, 1800kgs plus driver, small pads, and if your unlucky, a need to come to a standstill every half a mile is hard on the brakes.
Brings back memories of my mate's kit car when we were on our way to Ireland. From caliper stuck on a little, and got a tad warm, then the bearing grease melted, dripped out of the hub and melted the tyre sidewall on its way down. All from a triumph dolloposhite 1500 engine, and he didn't notice the drag until the bearing seized.
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From memory the handbook quotes a kerb weight for the F/L 3L Elite saloon as something like 1780lbs[could be slightly off on that figure]out of a 2200lb ton.
kilos ???
2200lb isn't a ton it's a tonne ::) ::) .... not that I'm being pedantic ;) ;)
Being pedantic 1800kgs is 1.8tonnes[not tons] :P ;D
Indeed ::)
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You're quite correct :y Where was my maths last night? :-[ There are of course 2240lbs to the ton :-*
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Food for thought*...
https://youtu.be/VEL9diENZY0
How about this test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPf4qwtr8Fs ;D :D :D
Slight brake bind, offside front. Pass and advise 😂😂😂
Well now I'm definitely bringing my cars to you for an MOT ;D ;D