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Author Topic: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?  (Read 10456 times)

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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #45 on: 20 April 2019, 19:18:37 »

if the harmonic damper (crankshaft pulley that runs the aux belt) was not in it's keyed slot when you did it up,it could well have spun ,mullered the ability for the key to locate in the damper now  :-\
(looking at the center hole on the damper looks worn  :o )

go check your spares car for harmonic damper and toothed crankshaft cog ? can't think what it's called  :-[
It's a dubre firkin.  ;D
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #46 on: 20 April 2019, 20:19:49 »

Right. I have bought the wrong kit. Silly me. What is my best course now? Return it for a refund and buy elsewhere? Seems quickest. Or try to get my supplier to replace his rotten ktr with the right one. He did ask for car reg. no. and I gave it to him, it appears on his order acknowledgement.
the seller you brought off does not have the correct kit listed on ebay Terry
return for refund if possible
buy local or use MY links
gates kit kp15603xs is correct for z16xep https://www.gatesautocat.com/article/KP15603XS

has a"male" torx crankshaft you wanted

if you are cheaping out and not doing the waterpump i will find another link for you
Yes please.

It's a waste of time changing any of it if you are leaving the water pump,nearly every vauxhall belt failure I've ever seen has been water pump related
the water pump runs off the aux belt on the z16xep same as an omega V6

Oops :-[, ok then  :y

I did a Corsa c 1.4 a couple of days ago so blinkered,that one does have pump in the T belt run :-\
corsa c 1.4 is a timing chain z14xep  :-\



anyway a link for Terry
I'm  a cheap-skate and will admit it by clicking INA brand £62  ;D


or a gates kit
   gates K015603XS kit £78.61

or buy the complete Gates kit with waterpump

£86.75 Buy it now

That's odd
02 corsa 1.4 was kit and pump
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #47 on: 20 April 2019, 20:21:50 »

Right. I have bought the wrong kit. Silly me. What is my best course now? Return it for a refund and buy elsewhere? Seems quickest. Or try to get my supplier to replace his rotten ktr with the right one. He did ask for car reg. no. and I gave it to him, it appears on his order acknowledgement.
the seller you brought off does not have the correct kit listed on ebay Terry
return for refund if possible
buy local or use MY links
gates kit kp15603xs is correct for z16xep https://www.gatesautocat.com/article/KP15603XS

has a"male" torx crankshaft you wanted

if you are cheaping out and not doing the waterpump i will find another link for you
Yes please.

It's a waste of time changing any of it if you are leaving the water pump,nearly every vauxhall belt failure I've ever seen has been water pump related
the water pump runs off the aux belt on the z16xep same as an omega V6

Oops :-[, ok then  :y

I did a Corsa c 1.4 a couple of days ago so blinkered,that one does have pump in the T belt run :-\
corsa c 1.4 is a timing chain z14xep  :-\



anyway a link for Terry
I'm  a cheap-skate and will admit it by clicking INA brand £62  ;D


or a gates kit
   gates K015603XS kit £78.61

or buy the complete Gates kit with waterpump

£86.75 Buy it now

That's odd
02 corsa 1.4 was kit and pump
I'll send reg whenback at work,check for yourself but was  full kit and pump
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #48 on: 20 April 2019, 20:56:23 »

Right. I have bought the wrong kit. Silly me. What is my best course now? Return it for a refund and buy elsewhere? Seems quickest. Or try to get my supplier to replace his rotten ktr with the right one. He did ask for car reg. no. and I gave it to him, it appears on his order acknowledgement.
the seller you brought off does not have the correct kit listed on ebay Terry
return for refund if possible
buy local or use MY links
gates kit kp15603xs is correct for z16xep https://www.gatesautocat.com/article/KP15603XS

has a"male" torx crankshaft you wanted

if you are cheaping out and not doing the waterpump i will find another link for you
Yes please.

It's a waste of time changing any of it if you are leaving the water pump,nearly every vauxhall belt failure I've ever seen has been water pump related
the water pump runs off the aux belt on the z16xep same as an omega V6

Oops :-[, ok then  :y

I did a Corsa c 1.4 a couple of days ago so blinkered,that one does have pump in the T belt run :-\
corsa c 1.4 is a timing chain z14xep  :-\



anyway a link for Terry
I'm  a cheap-skate and will admit it by clicking INA brand £62  ;D


or a gates kit
   gates K015603XS kit £78.61

or buy the complete Gates kit with waterpump

£86.75 Buy it now

That's odd
02 corsa 1.4 was kit and pump
I'll send reg whenback at work,check for yourself but was  full kit and pump
1.6 engine perhaps Z16SE  :-\ even a 1.8  :o z18xe
corsa B had 8valve belt driven 1.4 c14se etc but corsa c is 2000-2006
or was it an astra G 1.4 16v x14xe and not a corsa
or did "someone" put a "different" engine in ,not unknown for boy racers  ;D
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #49 on: 20 April 2019, 21:02:44 »

No Dave
Stock 1.4 with timing belt kit and water pump,bought with reg number
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #50 on: 20 April 2019, 21:09:21 »

No Dave
Stock 1.4 with timing belt kit and water pump,bought with reg number
is it an astra with a corsa badge on the back  :D ;D
I really don't know then  ???

probably more important things to worry about in the world   ;D

like Terry and his astra collection  :-X

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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #51 on: 20 April 2019, 21:10:44 »

Lol,defo corsa c 1.4 but hey ho who cares
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #52 on: 20 April 2019, 21:13:58 »

Lol,defo corsa c 1.4 but hey ho who cares
I care. If that Dave fella is wrong, I can call him names and take the piss. Make sure you let us know, Enery.  ;D
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #53 on: 20 April 2019, 21:26:30 »

Is the cambelt pulley on the correct way?

Is there a washer missing from the aux pulley hub bolt?

What rattles... The aux pulley or the engine?
It will only go on one way.
Thereis a thick washer.
Hard to say what rattles, but holding a spanner against the pulley that rattles.
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #54 on: 20 April 2019, 21:28:22 »

Lol,defo corsa c 1.4 but hey ho who cares
I care. If that Dave fella is wrong, I can call him names and take the piss. Make sure you let us know, Enery.  ;D
feel free to call me names and take the p155 Uncle Stemo  ::)
only had 2 corsa c in the fleet , one "went away" a few weeks ago on TBs number one internet auction site  :P replaced with an astra tractor juice edition  ::)
toother I took for a blast today to confirm it's good enough to MOT and then adios amigo
to be replaced with another rusty vauxhall of the 7 seat variety  ;D
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #55 on: 20 April 2019, 21:38:47 »

Is the cambelt pulley on the correct way?

Is there a washer missing from the aux pulley hub bolt?

What rattles... The aux pulley or the engine?
It will only go on one way.
Thereis a thick washer.
Hard to say what rattles, but holding a spanner against the pulley that rattles.
Are you sure? What's presented doesn't remotely match... :-\
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #56 on: 20 April 2019, 21:51:34 »

Job is done, cam belt and pulleys changed, rattle cured by a little filing. Thanks to all for help.

Bristol is blessed with three Eurocarparts establishments. I wanted to get this job done and clearly I had the wrong kit.

I rang ECP Whitby Road early this morning, only to get a message 'this line is temporarily out of order'. So I rang ECP Filton. They had a cam belt kit in stock, with water pump £169.99, without WP £139.99. Didn't want to pay that, but did want to get the job done before next weekend.

I rang ECP Whitby Road again. This time they answered. I asked the price and availability of a timing belt kit for car DS06HDL, and the lad said £53.06, on the shelf. I drove straight there, made the same request, lad said 'cash or card'. 'Card', I replied. He wandered out the back, returned and tossed a box on the counter. I opened it, compared the belt with my sample, the same. So I got a Dayco kit for £53.06.
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #57 on: 20 April 2019, 21:59:17 »

did you remove the flywheel locking tool  :-\

have you compared the " dubre firkin"  ;D and damper to the ones on the spares car ?

Job is done, cam belt and pulleys changed, rattle cured by a little filing.
 So I got a Dayco kit for £53.06. + the cost of the wrongly ordered belt kit

all good then  :y
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #58 on: 20 April 2019, 22:04:00 »

You shouldn't have to modify a part that you removed in order to refit it :o
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #59 on: 20 April 2019, 22:21:10 »

Weird that the cam belt kit had wildly different prices at different branches of the same company.  :-\

Happy days for you though Terry!  :y
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