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[05omegav6]

Could MID Pin 17 WEGN be connected to GRGE on the centre air vent lamp circuit?

[05omegav6]

Finally got round to connecting the MID to the ECU, now all works beautifully Managed to get the wire over the top of the glove box without removing it too

Now have realistic MPG/Range readings. Todays average is 25.4 MPG, apparantly using 0.3 gallons per hour when idling, think that would be about right for a V6

Only Oil Level and Head/Taillight wires to find homes for. If I drop the sump at some point I may as well replace it with a clean/shiny one with a switch fitted.

 

[Sehen]

So, if I understand you gyus right, if the car's TID has a gray plug, the swap is easy, and if it's yellow, it's better to change the loom???
Is there some roule that the F/L with DBW always have the gray 30 pin plug? either it has a TID or a MID?
And the check control module... where is it located??

Just some question to prepare me to the challange when the cars arrive )

[05omegav6]

Can only speak for my car, which is factory built police spec. So bits of the loom don't exist either from the factory or afterwards But the pins/wires in the yellow plug, (26 pins), are also present in the grey plug, (32 pins). The issue is that the 'extra' wires on the grey plugs might not be present in the loom of a car with the yellow plug. Wiring diagram in the Haynes book of variable information is reasonably accurate, most of it applies to the facelift cars, the only significant difference being the ECU wiring.

HTH, Al.

[05omegav6]

Right have just seen your other thread

Check control module lives behind the glove box, can't tell you what it looks like though as I don't have one on my car.

Well some progress After careful studying of the pictionary book I have done the following:

1. Identified all but one of the wires on the MID loom (that I found connected to the MID ).
2. Cross referenced all the wires on the TID loom.
3. Dismantled both plugs and transfered all the common wiring to the MID plug.
4. Connected Pin 6 on the MID to Pin 22 on the instrument cluster (ECU). GN.
5. Connected Pin 26 on the MID to Pin 20 on the instrument cluster (fuel gauge). BLSW.
6. Connected Pin 15 on the MID to the Brake Pedal Switch. SWGE.
7. Connected Pin 16 on the MID to Fuse 2. SW.
8. Connected Pins 23 BRWS and 24 BRRT to the control stalk, carefully modified to use the later plugs. (stalk came from a pre facelift, so may put a new one on at some point).
9. Connected Pin 27 on the MID to Pin 3 on the ECU Body loom plug. SWBR.
10. Connected Pin 20 to the Coolant Level Switch. BRBL.
11. Connected Pin 22 to the Washer Fluid Level. BRGE.
12. Connected Pin 13 to the Oil Level Switch. BRGN.

The MID works as it should except it keeps telling me to check everything
The head/tail lamp wiring will be grounded. Everything else will be connected accordingly where the engine wiring comes into the car behind the glovebox. Washer level already plugged in, new coolant bottle awaiting collection/fitting. Not sure if check control module is fitted or not but that only seems to check the lights

The only wire that I couldn't identify was SWGR from MID Pin 28. Not listed in the blox book. MID came from a 2001 2.6 CDX auto saloon if that helps.

Following the above you should have 3 wires left over: 1. MID Pin 17 WEGN Check Control.
                                                                          2. MID Pin 18 SWGE Trailer Sensor, (check control?).
                                                                          3. MID Pin 28 SWGR Stop Light, (check control?).

The MID will tell you to Check Headlight/Taillight every so often, but you should be doing that anyway

Having the complete donor car with a MID, you should have all the bits you'll need except the wiper stalk as they're different saloon/estate.

HTH, Al.

[Sehen]

Thank's 
When I'm thinking a bit, the check controll is located on a bracket to the fan. Just had a little problems with it when changing the interior fan on my ex TD. Because I have only seen it when the board commputer MID is fitted  Located to the left of the Auto ECU on my left hand drive car.
So if i have the yellow plug, the easiest way is to change the entire loom under the dash. i think..... 

Have to do some invetigation when car is at sight. Make a how to tread, and if I have to do the same to mine, I will be connecting the check controll, then it can be added to yor tread

Thank's again.

Steve

[05omegav6]

So if i have the yellow plug, the easiest way is to change the entire loom under the dash. i think

No just carefully dismantle the plugs and swap the pins over

There is now the bare bones of a 'how to' in the Test Zone. hopefully it'll make sense

[TheBoy]

Right have just seen your other thread

Check control module lives behind the glove box, can't tell you what it looks like though as I don't have one on my car.

Well some progress After careful studying of the pictionary book I have done the following:

1. Identified all but one of the wires on the MID loom (that I found connected to the MID ).
2. Cross referenced all the wires on the TID loom.
3. Dismantled both plugs and transfered all the common wiring to the MID plug.
4. Connected Pin 6 on the MID to Pin 22 on the instrument cluster (ECU). GN.
5. Connected Pin 26 on the MID to Pin 20 on the instrument cluster (fuel gauge). BLSW.
6. Connected Pin 15 on the MID to the Brake Pedal Switch. SWGE.
7. Connected Pin 16 on the MID to Fuse 2. SW.
8. Connected Pins 23 BRWS and 24 BRRT to the control stalk, carefully modified to use the later plugs. (stalk came from a pre facelift, so may put a new one on at some point).
9. Connected Pin 27 on the MID to Pin 3 on the ECU Body loom plug. SWBR.
10. Connected Pin 20 to the Coolant Level Switch. BRBL.
11. Connected Pin 22 to the Washer Fluid Level. BRGE.
12. Connected Pin 13 to the Oil Level Switch. BRGN.

The MID works as it should except it keeps telling me to check everything
The head/tail lamp wiring will be grounded. Everything else will be connected accordingly where the engine wiring comes into the car behind the glovebox. Washer level already plugged in, new coolant bottle awaiting collection/fitting. Not sure if check control module is fitted or not but that only seems to check the lights

The only wire that I couldn't identify was SWGR from MID Pin 28. Not listed in the blox book. MID came from a 2001 2.6 CDX auto saloon if that helps.

Following the above you should have 3 wires left over: 1. MID Pin 17 WEGN Check Control.
                                                                          2. MID Pin 18 SWGE Trailer Sensor, (check control?).
                                                                          3. MID Pin 28 SWGR Stop Light, (check control?).

The MID will tell you to Check Headlight/Taillight every so often, but you should be doing that anyway

Having the complete donor car with a MID, you should have all the bits you'll need except the wiper stalk as they're different saloon/estate.

HTH, Al.

I think those wires can be grounded or up to 12v (via pull-up resistor for safety) to stop the check control signals annoying you. Or retrofit check control

[05omegav6]

 

[freecall666]

Yellow Plug type:

 Pin 1 - Red - To F12
 Pin 2 - Brown - To Chassis - earthing point
 Pin 3 - Blue/White stripe - Outside temp sensor
 Pin 4 - Blue - Outside temp sensor
 Pin 5 - Black - To F15
 Pin 6 - Grey/Green stripe - To F26
 Pin 7 - Grey/Yellow stripe - Instrument Illumination - lighting circuit
 Pin 8 - Red/Grey Stripe - Radio amp for arial & display for read out from radio
 Pin 9 - Brown/White Stripe - Radio 
 Pin10 - Brown/White Stripe - Radio
 Pin11 - Brown/White Stripe - Radio
 Pin12 - Blue/red stripe - Speed signal From ABS
 Pin13 - blank
 Pin14 - Brown/White Stripe - To pin 8  Ob2 plug
 Pin15 - Black/Yellow stripe - To check control
 Pin16 - Black - To F2
 Pin17 - White/Green stripe - To check control
 Pin18 - Black/Yellow stripe - To check control
 Pin19 - Yellow/Red stripe - To brake pad wear sensors
 Pin20 - blank
 Pin21 - blank
 Pin22 - blank
 Pin23 - Grey - To Auto transmission
 Pin24 - blank
 Pin25 - blank
 Pin26 - blank

 Black Connector

 Pin 1 - Brown/Blue stripe - To fuel pump relay
 Pin 2 - blank
 Pin 3 - Brown/Blue stripe - Coolant level sensor
 Pin 4 - Brown - To chassis - eathing point
 Pin 5 - Brown/White Stripe - Computer stalk buttons
 Pin 6 - Brown/Red Stripe - Computer stalk buttons
 Pin 7 - blank
 Pin 8 - Blue/Black Stripe - Fuel level sender
 Pin 9 - Black/Brown Stripe - ECU signal
 Pin 10 - Brown/Yellow Stripe - Washer Level sensor
 Pin 11 - Brown/Grey Stripe - Oil level sensor
 Pin 12 - blank