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[robson]

What is the best way to replace my centre and back box assembly 2.6 2003. Eternal, exhaust fitters, Which make to avoid.

[robson]

Furher to my post how much would an independent garage charge to fit an eternal.

[05omegav6]

Furher to my post how much would an independent garage charge to fit an eternal.

My local tyre place charges about £50, but depends on how easily the centre piped come off the cats

[TheBoy]

I'm happy with Eternal or ETS. Certainly far, far, far better than the shite Bosal/Timex shite that virtually all garages will fit.

Not sure on fittings costs, as do myself. Most backstreet garages are around £50 per hour, and I reckon they'd be a bit mean to charge more than an hour.

[05omegav6]

Certainly easily done on the drive with the car reversed onto ramps.

The exhaust is heavier that it looks when you're lying underneath it though...

[Nick W]

Doable in an hour, on your own, in the street, with the car on axle stands.
Does that give you an idea of how long it should take with the car on a ramp, with another pair of hands?
20 minutes perhaps?

[TheBoy]

Doable in an hour, on your own, in the street, with the car on axle stands.
Does that give you an idea of how long it should take with the car on a ramp, with another pair of hands?
20 minutes perhaps?

Nick W, you're not stopping for enough tea and bacon butties

[Nick W]

Doable in an hour, on your own, in the street, with the car on axle stands.
Does that give you an idea of how long it should take with the car on a ramp, with another pair of hands?
20 minutes perhaps?

Nick W, you're not stopping for enough tea and bacon butties

How can you say that; you've met me! Although coffee is my drink, tea gives me indigestion.

[05omegav6]

Assuming nothing snaps/seizes, but should be a doddle on a ramp...

[terry paget]

Like Al said in message 2, problem is separating cat section from central section. I always heat the downpipe threads up to red heat, then let them cool down, before I carefully unscrew the screws. That takes 15 minutes. Break one off, and you are drilling it out.

Much depends on who put it on last time. If I did, stainless steel screws and lots of copper ease grease, correct torque, it's not too bad. It it's some young lad in a tyre shop, I can be in trouble.

[Nick W]

I always expect the bolts to be a problem and find it's a relief that I don't have to drill them out.
Nor do I mess about withe mounting rubbers, but buy new ones and cut the old ones off.
I hate doing exhausts, and so don't see the point of being gentle.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I hate doing exhausts, and don't see the point of DIY for the sake of saving £50.

  

[terry paget]

I hate doing exhausts, and don't see the point of DIY for the sake of saving £50.

  

Nick didn't say that! He said he didn't see the point of being gentle. £50 is £50. Fitting exhausts is one of the easier jobs on an Omega.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I hate doing exhausts, and don't see the point of DIY for the sake of saving £50.

  

Nick didn't say that! He said he didn't see the point of being gentle. £50 is £50. Fitting exhausts is one of the easier jobs on an Omega.

No he didn't, I did.  Crawling around on your back under an Omega on the drive isn't my idea of fun and exhaust fitting is one of those jobs that's worth paying a garage to do IMO.   

[omega3000]

I hate doing exhausts, and don't see the point of DIY for the sake of saving £50.

 
  

 

Sod laying on the floor fighting the thing , drive to Sereks and up on the lift ..job jobbed 

[plym ian]

What about something like these guys

u spanner

[robson]

has anybody had an exhaust from premier-car, double skinned they sound ok.

[Muroman]

I just did it like this And I noticed the exhaust is really heavy when you're wrestling with it under the car For a couple minutes I already was thinking I'm just stuck and can't move until someone comes pass, but after five minutes with the exhaust on my belly I got it off

I installed a used Simons from the cats back it was from my old car and probably ordered from Sweden.

[robson]

looks like nice car

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Exhaust is pretty much day 1 of 'home DIYer mechanic college' they're easy enough, unless you get a major headache, which can happen in any walk of life.

To be honest the real pain / issues with my exhaust were all down to me fitting replacement studs for the heatshields, which was time-consuming, but worthwhile. Being under the car also meant I was able to spot a couple of bits of damaged underseal, which were allowing rust - had I not spotted them now, they would have been potential for costly welding work in a couple of years. The actual sections being fitted to the car was thrown on in under the hour.

But I'm one of them people that really likes to know what's 'going on' inside/underneath his car. Regular servicing / playing about often reveals all manner of things like brake pipes that are on their way out, early signs of rust, a bolt that could do with a wipe over with an oily rag etc.. rather than just leaving it up to the MoTer once a year (who, for example, missed me having about 1mm of friction material left on my front brake discs, for instance!)

[Shackeng]

Exhaust is pretty much day 1 of 'home DIYer mechanic college' they're easy enough, unless you get a major headache, which can happen in any walk of life.

To be honest the real pain / issues with my exhaust were all down to me fitting replacement studs for the heatshields, which was time-consuming, but worthwhile. Being under the car also meant I was able to spot a couple of bits of damaged underseal, which were allowing rust - had I not spotted them now, they would have been potential for costly welding work in a couple of years. The actual sections being fitted to the car was thrown on in under the hour.

But I'm one of them people that really likes to know what's 'going on' inside/underneath his car. Regular servicing / playing about often reveals all manner of things like brake pipes that are on their way out, early signs of rust, a bolt that could do with a wipe over with an oily rag etc.. rather than just leaving it up to the MoTer once a year (who, for example, missed me having about 1mm of friction material left on my front brake discs, for instance!)

Better than my local MOT'er who failed a car on front brake pads worn, which were fitted the previous day!

[Nick W]

Exhaust is pretty much day 1 of 'home DIYer mechanic college' they're easy enough, unless you get a major headache, which can happen in any walk of life.

To be honest the real pain / issues with my exhaust were all down to me fitting replacement studs for the heatshields, which was time-consuming, but worthwhile. Being under the car also meant I was able to spot a couple of bits of damaged underseal, which were allowing rust - had I not spotted them now, they would have been potential for costly welding work in a couple of years. The actual sections being fitted to the car was thrown on in under the hour.

But I'm one of them people that really likes to know what's 'going on' inside/underneath his car. Regular servicing / playing about often reveals all manner of things like brake pipes that are on their way out, early signs of rust, a bolt that could do with a wipe over with an oily rag etc.. rather than just leaving it up to the MoTer once a year (who, for example, missed me having about 1mm of friction material left on my front brake discs, for instance!)

Considering that an MOT doesn't allow any dismantling, just how is the tester supposed to see the pads? Especially as that's enough to work on the brake tester.

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

I've done half a dozen Omegas with relative ease, on jacks and stands. The last one though, I had to get help from another member, involving lots of heat and eventually a plasma cutter (just for bonus points). The old one really didn't want to come off...

Eternal have always been great, but my last one was an ETS and the quality is fantastic.

[terry paget]

I've done half a dozen Omegas with relative ease, on jacks and stands. The last one though, I had to get help from another member, involving lots of heat and eventually a plasma cutter (just for bonus points). The old one really didn't want to come off...

Eternal have always been great, but my last one was an ETS and the quality is fantastic.

Bonus points award for plasma cutter. I have just googled it, and it sounds impressive, rather industrial, and somewhat hazardous. Did you use it to separate cat section from central section?

I must admit I had never heard of the technique as a DIY tool. I still use saws, hammers, angle grinders and bad language.

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Exhaust is pretty much day 1 of 'home DIYer mechanic college' they're easy enough, unless you get a major headache, which can happen in any walk of life.

To be honest the real pain / issues with my exhaust were all down to me fitting replacement studs for the heatshields, which was time-consuming, but worthwhile. Being under the car also meant I was able to spot a couple of bits of damaged underseal, which were allowing rust - had I not spotted them now, they would have been potential for costly welding work in a couple of years. The actual sections being fitted to the car was thrown on in under the hour.

But I'm one of them people that really likes to know what's 'going on' inside/underneath his car. Regular servicing / playing about often reveals all manner of things like brake pipes that are on their way out, early signs of rust, a bolt that could do with a wipe over with an oily rag etc.. rather than just leaving it up to the MoTer once a year (who, for example, missed me having about 1mm of friction material left on my front brake discs, for instance!)

Considering that an MOT doesn't allow any dismantling, just how is the tester supposed to see the pads? Especially as that's enough to work on the brake tester.

Fairly sure you can see how much wear is left on them just by looking at the holes in the caliper. I may be wrong.

[robson]

Can you give me a contact number for ETS.

[terry paget]

ebay.co.uk/itm/Muffler-Finisher-Opel-Omega-B-Saloon-2-5-3-0-V6-Exhaust-/151333449603?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item233c2d2f83

[terry paget]

Woops! Try again. Or go to e-bay and search for omema exhaust.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Muffler-Finisher-Opel-Omega-B-Saloon-2-5-3-0-V6-Exhaust-/151333449603?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item233c2d2f83

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Woops! Try again. Or go to e-bay and search for omema exhaust.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Muffler-Finisher-Opel-Omega-B-Saloon-2-5-3-0-V6-Exhaust-/151333449603?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item233c2d2f83

Not your day for using keyboards, is it? 

Type more caerfully.

[terry paget]

Woops! Try again. Or go to e-bay and search for omema exhaust.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Muffler-Finisher-Opel-Omega-B-Saloon-2-5-3-0-V6-Exhaust-/151333449603?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item233c2d2f83

Not your day for using keyboards, is it? 

Type more caerfully.

I hate QWERTY keyboards. They were designed by Remington to avoid the typewriter arms jamming. My day job is printer and typesetter, using an Intertype 90 key keyboard, entirely different layout.

[chrisgixer]

Cost from a garage would depend on time taken and their hourly rate. Which would depend on how easily the cat bolts come out. Usually they are seized and need drilling out. At best you might get three of the four bolts out and snap one off.

The rest is just clips and hangers. So not more than an hours work for a garage I guess. Assuming the exhaust fits, which the ETS ones do, as said.

[robson]

Is ETS the same as  eternal I have searched for eternal but cannot find them.Some guidance needed please

[Shackeng]

Exhaust is pretty much day 1 of 'home DIYer mechanic college' they're easy enough, unless you get a major headache, which can happen in any walk of life.

To be honest the real pain / issues with my exhaust were all down to me fitting replacement studs for the heatshields, which was time-consuming, but worthwhile. Being under the car also meant I was able to spot a couple of bits of damaged underseal, which were allowing rust - had I not spotted them now, they would have been potential for costly welding work in a couple of years. The actual sections being fitted to the car was thrown on in under the hour.

But I'm one of them people that really likes to know what's 'going on' inside/underneath his car. Regular servicing / playing about often reveals all manner of things like brake pipes that are on their way out, early signs of rust, a bolt that could do with a wipe over with an oily rag etc.. rather than just leaving it up to the MoTer once a year (who, for example, missed me having about 1mm of friction material left on my front brake discs, for instance!)

Considering that an MOT doesn't allow any dismantling, just how is the tester supposed to see the pads? Especially as that's enough to work on the brake tester.

Fairly sure you can see how much wear is left on them just by looking at the holes in the caliper. I may be wrong.

Precisely, they are supposed to be 'qualified' mechanics after all.

[TheBoy]

Is ETS the same as  eternal I have searched for eternal but cannot find them.Some guidance needed please

No, different.

[robson]

So how do I find eternal?

[robson]

What do we know about Neu car parts exhausts

[Marks DTM Calib]

Avoid.....worse than Timax

[robson]

Thanks Mark I am trying to find the way to eternal is it eternal cars

[omega squared]

you need a friendly local tyres and exhaust shop who will let the boys do a quick fitting for you on a quiet time like sunday morning or Saturday afternoon.