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Title: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 07 April 2019, 07:11:22
I was fast asleep in bed when I heard the doorbell going. I could hear voices so, still half asleep, I went to the front door. A scruffy looking individual asked me if the red car parked outside was mine, because he'd just seen someone set fire to it. I looked to the side of the house and, sure enough, flames were licking up from the centre of the rear bumper. Fella who knocked was off down the road, very strange.
Runs downstairs for a closer look, by now the car is well alight and my next door neighbour is out with a bowl of water, which isn't having much effect. I grabs my garden hose and run out with that and, after a while (that plastic really is a bastard to put out) it's out. It starts again, inside and underneath. Again I put it out. Phew.
Ring police...999....busy....have to wait. Eventually get through and tell the story, and am transferred to another number for an incident number. That just rings out, so I leave the missus holding on while I go back down to speak to the neighbour. We work it out that the guy who knocked at the door had obviously started the fire and we notice a fire engine further down the road. I ring the fire brigade only to be told that there are another two incidents involving three vehicles ongoing and one of the appliances will call to check mine is properly out.
When they arrive they open all the doors to let the smoke out and declare it safe. Turns out that they have this guy on cctv somewhere and he is still wandering around 'off his head' on something. I ask if they've let the police know and they tell me yes, but they're too busy to attend at that time.
So here I am, tired, pissed off and, probably, quite a bit poorer with a £400 excess to pay once I ring the insurance. I tried to report it to their 24 hour claim line last night, but the 'system was down'.
So........a nutter wandering around torching cars and police too bust to attend, and a 24 hour claims line that only works during office hours.
Guess I'd better get up and take the dog out soon because it's Bens backgammon tournament in Bradford today, and he won't even know anything has happened till I get him up and tell him. Oh to be a tired teenager  ::)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 07 April 2019, 07:12:59
I'll take a pic later.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: BazaJT on 07 April 2019, 07:56:37
Is your house upside down for you to answer the front door then run downstairs? :-\ :-\ Think I'd have been tempted to go looking for the guy with summat heavy in my hand.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Varche on 07 April 2019, 08:27:38
Ye gods. What a horrible scenario.

I bet the perp was in the crowd elsewhere watching the fire brigade putting out. Any cctv?
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: dave the builder on 07 April 2019, 11:25:59
Gutted for you Uncle Stemo  :(
not only the insurance excess ,it will (even with protected no claims) increase your insurance costs  :( both CARs and HOUSE premiums  :'(
then you've got all the hassle of sorting a shytebox loan car ,and trying to find a replacement car ,whilst the insurance low ball you
then you'll still struggle to find a low mile ,mint replacement

thankfully , it sounds like no one got hurt
though 'Mr Matches' needs hurting  :P a car full of fuel blowing up can grenade bits everywhere

what a sad world we live in  :(

"police" need major investment and much more staff
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 07 April 2019, 11:45:37
Very sorry to hear all that Steve.  What a dreadful thing to happen.  Hope you can sort everything out to some degree of satisfaction.

 :)

Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 April 2019, 12:24:23
Sorry to hear this........ :-\

The rozzer's are pretty hopeless and generally apathetic to crime. :-\
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 07 April 2019, 12:37:03
Update: He did six cars in all. Ours will probably be just a back bumper and assorted bits behind, lights all work and micro switch on the boot.
(https://i.ibb.co/hYT9Kcm/D96-C4-DF6-BF15-4-B9-E-81-EA-451-EA69-C8-DDF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y0VQtXL)

Three of the others are total write offs and one poor chap has a melted front door.

CID have just been and said that there is cctv but he hasn't seen it yet. I'm fickin knackered.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 07 April 2019, 12:42:45
(https://i.ibb.co/x1pjtvt/AE90-B9-F7-3-F04-4-C02-96-F7-7-FB77912-BB02.png) (https://ibb.co/fkhpzRz)
(https://i.ibb.co/n6y2QgQ/6-F9-F6-DC1-77-BF-4-E89-91-C5-105-C4-FAF5-D84.png) (https://ibb.co/7jDcrYr)
(https://i.ibb.co/F5gRD8w/8-CD783-DF-5-DB8-4780-B655-309-B42-AAF81-D.png) (https://ibb.co/T4m9gP8)

If you look in front of the Audi, you will see a black mark that used to be a meriva.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: dave the builder on 07 April 2019, 12:50:56
Update: He did six cars in all. Ours will probably be just a back bumper and assorted bits behind, lights all work and micro switch on the boot.

If your having the repairs done through insurance ,you need to make sure EVERYTHING is done ,probably not done the paint and underbody rust proofing any favours ,and crusty insulation on wiring looms and heat damage to fuel lines is not good if left to cause problems later  :-\
if you "diy",get a rear bumper etc ,insurance may still go up,(because you reported it to insurance) and the rozzers will include it on "crime statistics "
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: redelitev6 on 07 April 2019, 12:52:50
 >:( WTF is the matter with people , why would you do that ?
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 April 2019, 12:56:45
Six cars..... :-\
He could end up with twenty hours of community service or a police caution.... :-\
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 April 2019, 12:57:23
.......if they catch the bastard.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 07 April 2019, 13:10:04
If he claims he did it to combat the damage cars do to the planet he will probably be let off and become a folk hero.  ::)
Sometimes, it would be nice of we had U.S. gun laws.  :-X
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 07 April 2019, 13:13:11
Update: He did six cars in all. Ours will probably be just a back bumper and assorted bits behind, lights all work and micro switch on the boot.

If your having the repairs done through insurance ,you need to make sure EVERYTHING is done ,probably not done the paint and underbody rust proofing any favours ,and crusty insulation on wiring looms and heat damage to fuel lines is not good if left to cause problems later  :-\
if you "diy",get a rear bumper etc ,insurance may still go up,(because you reported it to insurance) and the rozzers will include it on "crime statistics "
Our courtesy car will be getting arranged tomorrow (hope it's a manual three cylinder fabia like last time, wifey will enjoy driving a gutless manual  :)). LV have re ted the contact number of the garage......in Kidderminster  :o
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: dave the builder on 07 April 2019, 13:31:33
Kidderminster  :o
hope you don't have to drop it off yourself  ;D
it'll probably come back with more damage than it went with  ;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 07 April 2019, 14:14:07
What an awful night Stemo, hope everything gets sorted satisfactorily, LV are usually very good we've been with them for several years , good job he wasn't setting properties alight !
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: ronnyd on 07 April 2019, 14:21:28
It,s tough "up north". Blimey, what a night you and your neighbours have had. Hope they get the scrote but won,t hold my breath.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 07 April 2019, 14:23:28
>:( WTF is the matter with people , why would you do that ?

Somebody with a mental health issue, and that keeps our police forces busy across the country :(
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 07 April 2019, 14:33:46
>:( WTF is the matter with people , why would you do that ?

Somebody with a mental health issue, and that keeps our police forces busy across the country :(



Mental health issues, or on the other hand some people are just born bad in my experience.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Raeturbo on 07 April 2019, 14:41:22
Good kicking would help him learn right and wrong maybe... sorry to hear about that, there sure are some are idiots about😞
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Andy H on 07 April 2019, 15:02:28
It is called 'Care in the Community'

In the 1960's and 70's there was criticism of poor care in mental asylums. Many of the inmates spent their time in decaying Victorian buildings off their heads on medication to keep them quiet.

By the 1980s there was enough agreement that 'something must be done' that the Care in the Community act was passed. The asylums were sold off for housing or retail parks. The inmates were given a pat on the back and told to look after themselves.

30 or 40 years have passed so it isn't the same people but where once there was a chance of spending time basket weaving or feeding the hospital pigs or working in the hospital laundry the new generation haven't got those options so some of them spend their time off their heads on spice and sleeping in decaying high streets.

Progress apparently...
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Bigron on 07 April 2019, 15:38:08
Good kicking would help him learn right and wrong maybe... sorry to hear about that, there sure are some are idiots about😞

"Let the punishment fit the crime" - The Micado. I would suggest burning him at the stake.....slowly!

Ron.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Raeturbo on 07 April 2019, 15:45:29
Indeed, good shout Ron :y
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 April 2019, 16:20:45
Such an unnecessary ballache >:(

At least the damage was confined to your car, and not the house (or garage :-X), only saving grace being lorry fuel rather than petrol. Expect it to be written off though... :-\
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 07 April 2019, 16:36:56
Such an unnecessary ballache >:(

At least the damage was confined to your car, and not the house (or garage :-X), only saving grace being lorry fuel rather than petrol. Expect it to be written off though... :-\
Nah. They're not gonna write off an £8-9K car for that.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: dave the builder on 07 April 2019, 16:46:19
has the burnt smell gone from inside  :-\

that could be a ongoing issue ,even when fixed  :(

a magic tree air freshener ,even if a genuine dealer fitted item  :P is NOT the solution long term  :-\
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: pscocoa on 07 April 2019, 17:07:10
Sorry to hear Steve.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: henryd on 07 April 2019, 17:21:40
Sad to see Steve,hope it gets sorted quickly for you
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 April 2019, 17:25:02
Such an unnecessary ballache >:(

At least the damage was confined to your car, and not the house (or garage :-X), only saving grace being lorry fuel rather than petrol. Expect it to be written off though... :-\
Nah. They're not gonna write off an £8-9K car for that.
Depends. Smoke damage, plus heat damage to the rear panel. Any cooked wiring will transfer heat alot further than the visible damage.

I suspect it will end up a Category B :-\
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: dave the builder on 07 April 2019, 17:29:34
Such an unnecessary ballache >:(

At least the damage was confined to your car, and not the house (or garage :-X), only saving grace being lorry fuel rather than petrol. Expect it to be written off though... :-\
Nah. They're not gonna write off an £8-9K car for that.
Depends. Smoke damage, plus heat damage to the rear panel. Any cooked wiring will transfer heat alot further than the visible damage.

I suspect it will end up a Category B :-\

cat N ,no structural ,uneconomic to repair surely 
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 April 2019, 17:36:13
The rear panel will potentially have been substantially weakened. Burnt cars and accident damaged are two very different things ;)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Alnico Blue on 07 April 2019, 17:43:51
Just read this Steve . . .  unbelieveable   :o :o :o :o   gutted for you mate !
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 07 April 2019, 19:31:17
Thanks, everyone, much appreciated. Moved it around this aft, checked all the lights, brakes, etc., all ok. I'll know if it's ok when the young fella drops off the courtesy car, jumps in ours and drives off.  ;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 07 April 2019, 19:50:54
I was supposed to be driving over to Liverpool to see mother tomorrow, but I don't think I can be arsed. I'm going for a nice long walk with doggie and the world can eff off. That's my altitude.  ;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Rods2 on 07 April 2019, 19:59:18
Sorry to see this Steve, the sort of hassle & cost from malicious behaviour we can all do without. >:(

This is a very big problem in Sweden where cars are torched by the cultural enhancers showing their gratitude for being able to move there, so I hope it is not going to become a trend here as well. :(

https://www.thelocal.se/20180816/whats-behind-the-car-burnings-in-western-sweden (https://www.thelocal.se/20180816/whats-behind-the-car-burnings-in-western-sweden)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 April 2019, 01:30:55
Sorry to see this Uncle STEMO. What a complete bastard!  >:(

I've had a hectic weekend, so I've just seen this..... hic!  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: aaronjb on 08 April 2019, 08:55:50
Such an unnecessary ballache >:(

At least the damage was confined to your car, and not the house (or garage :-X), only saving grace being lorry fuel rather than petrol. Expect it to be written off though... :-\
Nah. They're not gonna write off an £8-9K car for that.

After the bump up the bum in her Mini, they wanted to write that off (a ~£5-6k car) without even seeing it. For this:

(https://i.ibb.co/wzsNY5j/image.png) (https://ibb.co/wzsNY5j)

So if you phone up and say "fire damage" they'll probably assume the worst and begin the "Well on a car of that age, we could just write it off and ..."

I get the impression that they want to write the car off, because that drives the reman industry and drops lots of nice Cat N's onto the market for all their friends to fix up & sell on.


[edit to add] What an arse, though! Sorry you get to deal with the fall-out from some drugged up nut-job walking the streets determined to be a grade A arsehole. And sorry that the police are too busy to deal with crime..  >:(
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Entwood on 08 April 2019, 09:21:51
Extremely sorry to hear this STEMO ... not good at all :(

However, if I might ....

All this crap about the police not dealing with the crime instantly .... just how does anyone know this ??? Sending a copper out to look at the car and say "Oh dear" is NOT dealing with the crime ... The perpetrator had done other cars and wandered off, STEMO says so himself ... so, do you have substantive proof that there were no patrol cars looking for the guy 4, 5 streets away ??? Lets instantly find one guy wearing a hoody on a dark night in a city ..... not quite as easy as it sounds ....

Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 April 2019, 12:05:45
It's not what the police were actually doing that is necessarily at fault, but the perception that their face to the public instills. I've experienced this too. Their communications with members of the public is abysmal at the moment, at a time when they are percieved to have plenty of resources for dealing efficiently with people who stray a couple of MPH over the speed limit.

"Here's your crime number now f-off!" after being kept on hold, explaining yourself 3 times to 3 different people with zero local knowledge is par for the course these days, IME.

This is not to denigrate their front line officers who generally do a superb job of absorbing the sh!ie that's thrown at them from all directions.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 08 April 2019, 12:29:09
Extremely sorry to hear this STEMO ... not good at all :(

However, if I might ....

All this crap about the police not dealing with the crime instantly .... just how does anyone know this ??? Sending a copper out to look at the car and say "Oh dear" is NOT dealing with the crime ... The perpetrator had done other cars and wandered off, STEMO says so himself ... so, do you have substantive proof that there were no patrol cars looking for the guy 4, 5 streets away ??? Lets instantly find one guy wearing a hoody on a dark night in a city ..... not quite as easy as it sounds ....
The fire brigade actually saw a person who they thought could well be the arsonist. They called the police themselves only to be told that there was no one available. The CID sergeant who came out yesterday said he wasn't surprised as they are very short handed.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 08 April 2019, 12:30:50
It's not what the police were actually doing that is necessarily at fault, but the perception that their face to the public instills. I've experienced this too. Their communications with members of the public is abysmal at the moment, at a time when they are percieved to have plenty of resources for dealing efficiently with people who stray a couple of MPH over the speed limit.

"Here's your crime number now f-off!" after being kept on hold, explaining yourself 3 times to 3 different people with zero local knowledge is par for the course these days, IME.

This is not to denigrate their front line officers who generally do a superb job of absorbing the sh!ie that's thrown at them from all directions.
That was, more or less, our experience. Kept waiting for 15 mins to talk to the crime reporting bods.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 08 April 2019, 12:35:22
Just heard there were two more last night. Wifey's is going for repair tomorrow, hope they don't torch her courtesy car.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: aaronjb on 08 April 2019, 12:44:47
Just heard there were two more last night. Wifey's is going for repair tomorrow, hope they don't torch her courtesy car.

You, tomorrow night:

(https://i.ibb.co/Mg22fT1/image.png) (https://ibb.co/Mg22fT1)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 08 April 2019, 13:04:22
Just heard there were two more last night. Wifey's is going for repair tomorrow, hope they don't torch her courtesy car.

You, tomorrow night:

(https://i.ibb.co/Mg22fT1/image.png) (https://ibb.co/Mg22fT1)
Where's me gun gone?  ;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: aaronjb on 08 April 2019, 13:06:28
Ah, so you're more:

(https://i.ibb.co/pWZ8pPk/image.png) (https://ibb.co/pWZ8pPk)

;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 April 2019, 13:27:00
Just heard there were two more last night. Wifey's is going for repair tomorrow, hope they don't torch her courtesy car.

You, tomorrow night:

(https://i.ibb.co/Mg22fT1/image.png) (https://ibb.co/Mg22fT1)
Where's me gun gone?  ;D

Perhaps you should mention that you've found it next time you contact the Police? ;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 April 2019, 13:57:56
It's not what the police were actually doing that is necessarily at fault, but the perception that their face to the public instills. I've experienced this too. Their communications with members of the public is abysmal at the moment, at a time when they are percieved to have plenty of resources for dealing efficiently with people who stray a couple of MPH over the speed limit.

"Here's your crime number now f-off!" after being kept on hold, explaining yourself 3 times to 3 different people with zero local knowledge is par for the course these days, IME.

This is not to denigrate their front line officers who generally do a superb job of absorbing the sh!ie that's thrown at them from all directions.

A number of years ago I caught a lad trespassing on the heritage railway, he had just let off a fire extinguisher in a couple of carriages and had pinched some period Guards clothing.

The fact we had 'detained' him resulted in a full Blues drive in double quick time to the centre......I am sure if we had not got him it may have been very different!
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Jimbob on 08 April 2019, 15:31:35
It's not what the police were actually doing that is necessarily at fault, but the perception that their face to the public instills. I've experienced this too. Their communications with members of the public is abysmal at the moment, at a time when they are percieved to have plenty of resources for dealing efficiently with people who stray a couple of MPH over the speed limit.

"Here's your crime number now f-off!" after being kept on hold, explaining yourself 3 times to 3 different people with zero local knowledge is par for the course these days, IME.

This is not to denigrate their front line officers who generally do a superb job of absorbing the sh!ie that's thrown at them from all directions.

A number of years ago I caught a lad trespassing on the heritage railway, he had just let off a fire extinguisher in a couple of carriages and had pinched some period Guards clothing.

The fact we had 'detained' him resulted in a full Blues drive in double quick time to the centre......I am sure if we had not got him it may have been very different!

Pity you don't have some electic rails you could have 'found' him on!
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 08 April 2019, 16:22:05
It's not what the police were actually doing that is necessarily at fault, but the perception that their face to the public instills. I've experienced this too. Their communications with members of the public is abysmal at the moment, at a time when they are percieved to have plenty of resources for dealing efficiently with people who stray a couple of MPH over the speed limit.

"Here's your crime number now f-off!" after being kept on hold, explaining yourself 3 times to 3 different people with zero local knowledge is par for the course these days, IME.

This is not to denigrate their front line officers who generally do a superb job of absorbing the sh!ie that's thrown at them from all directions.


But they have not got those resources Kevin and the vast majority of speeding offences are issued after cameras have done their work, not traffic officers or even roadside speed traps.  The traffic officers are in desperately short supply and that is why so many are driving around without insurance, no tax, no MOT and no licence. How many miles can you drive now without seeing one traffic car?  Certainly far more miles than before 2008 , and even more so before 1990; then often many cars were often stationed along the motorway, or simply seen driving up and down roads. Now they just are not there because those in political power think the job can be more cheaply and effectively done using cameras. A load of rubbish of course, but there you go! >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 08 April 2019, 16:31:10
As for police response to crime, I must be careful in what I say in line with The Official Act and Police confidentiality, but I will simply say senior police chiefs have been "reviewing" what 'crimes' could be downgraded to non-response (beyond what the public see now) to free up the limited resources they have to respond satisfactory to 'higher rated crimes'.

STEMO's bumper fire would be definitely not be individually investigated, and only the other fires would constitute a need to investigate further, with eventually charging action, if those thought responsibility were not first time offenders and worth the effort.  I must say no more :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Varche on 08 April 2019, 16:42:01
What a poor state of affairs.


Are the level of crimes per capita the same as when we were young? For example arson.


Mrs V had her purse removed from her handbag and the handbag zipped up again in a Spanish tourist city. We contacted the police and they said they knew the Romanian gang working the city centre but they were too slick to get caught with any goods. The hassle of replacing all your cards and bank cards plus a new passport and 200 euros of cash. In the old days they would have been moved on but now that would be agin their umin rights. 
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 April 2019, 16:44:04
Freedom of movement has alot to answer for :-X
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 April 2019, 16:53:36
It's not what the police were actually doing that is necessarily at fault, but the perception that their face to the public instills. I've experienced this too. Their communications with members of the public is abysmal at the moment, at a time when they are percieved to have plenty of resources for dealing efficiently with people who stray a couple of MPH over the speed limit.

"Here's your crime number now f-off!" after being kept on hold, explaining yourself 3 times to 3 different people with zero local knowledge is par for the course these days, IME.

This is not to denigrate their front line officers who generally do a superb job of absorbing the sh!ie that's thrown at them from all directions.

A number of years ago I caught a lad trespassing on the heritage railway, he had just let off a fire extinguisher in a couple of carriages and had pinched some period Guards clothing.

The fact we had 'detained' him resulted in a full Blues drive in double quick time to the centre......I am sure if we had not got him it may have been very different!

I know the safety officer of a preserved railway not a million miles from me who had to remind the plod that they were up for a charge of trespassing on the railway and a potential of a £1000 fine each and/or a prison sentence when they started poking around on the track one evening investigating an allegation of a "jumper".

"Oh, it's okay. It's a preserved railway"
"It's really not OK!"
"But they don't run at night anyway"
"Can you hear that feint chuffing sound?"
"gulp"
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: aaronjb on 08 April 2019, 17:41:06
"gulp"

Plot twist: It was Kevin around the corner with a speaker, amplifier and C90 cassette recording of a steam train.

As for police response to crime, I must be careful in what I say in line with The Official Act and Police confidentiality, but I will simply say senior police chiefs have been "reviewing" what 'crimes' could be downgraded to non-response (beyond what the public see now) to free up the limited resources they have to respond satisfactory to 'higher rated crimes'.

STEMO's bumper fire would be definitely not be individually investigated, and only the other fires would constitute a need to investigate further, with eventually charging action, if those thought responsibility were not first time offenders and worth the effort.  I must say no more :-X :-X :-X :-X

In other words, you can do what you like unless it involves fiddling with children or speeding  :P

(I'm joking - the police do a hard job, and it's not one I'd want to do!)

Time for The Purge (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2184339/), anyone?
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 08 April 2019, 18:04:20
The country has gone far too soft , too many excuses made for criminals deprived childhood , dysfunctional families etc the list goes on with various excuses for this scum. But if you take the law into your own hands god help you. Unfortunately it's just going to get worse because no one has the balls to do anything about it.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: aaronjb on 08 April 2019, 18:17:19
Unfortunately it's just going to get worse because no one has the balls to do anything about it.

Indeed. We (collectively as a nation) haven't even got the balls to Brexit or not Brexit, but just make a decision already and get on with it.. ;D :-X
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: biggriffin on 08 April 2019, 18:18:05
We give more in overseas aid, then is spent on policing.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Raeturbo on 08 April 2019, 18:21:10
The country has gone far too soft , too many excuses made for criminals deprived childhood , dysfunctional families etc the list goes on with various excuses for this scum. But if you take the law into your own hands god help you. Unfortunately it's just going to get worse because no one has the balls to do anything about it.
[/quote.                                           Yes, agree 100% keeping on the correct side of the law is getting harder when these fkers seem to be able to get away with robbing,vandalising,scamming,etc and don’t get punished.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Raeturbo on 08 April 2019, 18:22:59
We give more in overseas aid, then is spent on policing.
.   

               Fk! I hope that’s not true ???
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2019, 18:30:45
It's not what the police were actually doing that is necessarily at fault, but the perception that their face to the public instills. I've experienced this too. Their communications with members of the public is abysmal at the moment, at a time when they are percieved to have plenty of resources for dealing efficiently with people who stray a couple of MPH over the speed limit.

"Here's your crime number now f-off!" after being kept on hold, explaining yourself 3 times to 3 different people with zero local knowledge is par for the course these days, IME.

This is not to denigrate their front line officers who generally do a superb job of absorbing the sh!ie that's thrown at them from all directions.
I have to concur, following the last (or was it previous) armed robbery that bro suffered. He called the ol' bill, but was asked to "call back when the thieves have gone'

Fortunately, one of his over 60yr old members of staff dealt with it, and she shooo'd them away Nora Batty style.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2019, 18:35:56
But they have not got those resources Kevin and the vast majority of speeding offences are issued after cameras have done their work, not traffic officers or even roadside speed traps.  The traffic officers are in desperately short supply
Not round here, there are loads of them.  And if you *really* need one in a hurry, go to the Super Sausage café on the A5 any time of day.

There is a clear issue around efficiency, which always happens when you give a civil service department an influx of cash.  I doubt its the fault of the average plod, but the way their management (mis)manage resources.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2019, 18:37:08
And STEMOs experience highlights why we need a mass cull. these people cant have their issues resolved, and scum breeds scum.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 08 April 2019, 18:54:27
These issues haven't arisen since the cuts imposed by Treasonous May. They have been around for at least 20 years.
The cuts don't help of course, but there is an indemic problem within the Police, which seems to indicate they don't se solving old fashioned crimes with real proper law abiding victims, as something they should care about too much.
I had a burglary in 2001.Called the Police, told them who did it and where to find my property they had stolen.
They weren't really interested, but to try and pacify me went and asked the blokes if they had done it. ::)
Came back to me and said "they said it wasn't them".
I asked the copper "did you look to see if my property was where I said it would be?"
"No, that might have caused some upset or anger".
A lot of my respect for the British Bobby disappeared that day.  :(
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Bigron on 08 April 2019, 19:00:36
An senior ex-policeman that I know said that nowadays new recruits join up. find a cushy desk job to do their paperwork and sit back for 30 years until they get their (generous) pension!

Ron.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 April 2019, 19:31:06
If Uncle STEMO had dialled 999 and told the police that he had been mis-gendered, South Yorkshire's finest would have descended on Barnsley on mass!  ;)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 April 2019, 19:34:10
If Uncle STEMO had dialled 999 and told the police that he had been mis-gendered, South Yorkshire's finest would have descended on Barnsley on mass!  ;)
If only to gawk :D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 April 2019, 19:35:33
If Uncle STEMO had dialled 999 and told the police that he had been mis-gendered, South Yorkshire's finest would have descended on Barnsley on mass!  ;)
If only to gawk :D

Yes I'm sure it's a sight to behold!  ;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 April 2019, 20:05:27
Rabbit
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 08 April 2019, 20:07:05
If Uncle STEMO had dialled 999 and told the police that he had been mis-gendered, South Yorkshire's finest would have descended on Barnsley on mass!  ;)
If only to gawk :D

Yes I'm sure it's a sight to behold!  ;D
Me running around in my boxies with my hose out was quite enough for anyone, thank you.  ;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 April 2019, 20:35:53
Rabbit
Well that's not where I left that ::)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: dave the builder on 08 April 2019, 20:44:17
Rabbit
Well that's not where I left that ::)
it's between my Butt-plug and biggriffin's Dildo  :y
(word Association thread )
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 April 2019, 20:44:54
Rabbit
Well that's not where I left that ::)
it's between my Butt-plug and biggriffin's Dildo  :y
(word Association thread )
Caught and re inserted into the correct thread ;)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: dave the builder on 08 April 2019, 20:47:08
Rabbit
Well that's not where I left that ::)
it's between my Butt-plug and biggriffin's Dildo  :y
(word Association thread )
Caught and re inserted into the correct slot ;)
FTFY  :o
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 April 2019, 20:48:52
I resisted ::)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: hotel21 on 08 April 2019, 21:20:48
An senior ex-policeman that I know said that nowadays new recruits join up. find a cushy desk job to do their paperwork and sit back for 30 years until they get their (generous) pension!

Ron.

Rowlocks......

The senior ex policeman (like me) paid 11% of his top line into their pension for 30 years.

They (like me) only get their own coin back.  NO input from anyone else, eg Govt or golden hedge fund, not one brass razzoo from any other source.

The pension percentage taken today from a serving cop pays out tomorrow to the pensioners (again, like me).  No golden bucket somewhere in the Cayman Isles accruing interest.  Retirees are simply living longer and creating a draw that cannot be readily refilled.

Hence the financial requirement for current officers to pay an even bigger percentage of their monthly, for far longer, to get less of a pension as final salary pensions are no longer.  And ongoing loss of motivation and to see ‘the job’ as just that and not a career.

To continue, said senior ex policeman is out of touch of how policing operates now (unlike me...) as police officers are leaving in droves as they are unable to get said ‘cushy-desk jobs’ as they are now occupied by civilians (possibly ex job, ex senior officers, receiving their pensions already) but who now contribute an even greater percentage to government funds by way of taxes.

Or alternatively, someone has choicely taken parts of reality for a sound bite.

Just for clarification, and to put an alternate view to Bigrons Big Broadbrushing of a public misconception.   :)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: hotel21 on 08 April 2019, 21:25:09
Apologies STMO - neglected to add that I’m sorry to read of your plight.  Sadly, the chances of appropriate punishment to the culprit are slim at best, for a varied assortment of reasons.  I hope your financial loss is at a minimum.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 08 April 2019, 21:49:03
Apologies STMO - neglected to add that I’m sorry to read of your plight.  Sadly, the chances of appropriate punishment to the culprit are slim at best, for a varied assortment of reasons.  I hope your financial loss is at a minimum.
Thanks, Broocie, £300 excess is all I can see it costing immediately. There will be consequences with regards to premiums in the future, of course. But this is all part of my 'life's a bitch and then you die' philosophy. I'm not about to cry myself to sleep.  ;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Andy B on 08 April 2019, 22:13:54
I too had a final salary pension once .....
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 08 April 2019, 22:16:10
I too had a final salary pension once .....
Wifey, too. She should have been retiring at 60, now 67.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: hotel21 on 08 April 2019, 22:18:16
I too had a final salary pension once .....
Wifey, too. She should have been retiring at 60, now 67.

Likewise.  Mrs H21 is similarly hindered.....
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Varche on 08 April 2019, 23:48:23
I too had a final salary pension once .....
Wifey, too. She should have been retiring at 60, now 67.

That is a common problem.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 April 2019, 00:41:02
I too had a final salary pension once .....
Wifey, too. She should have been retiring at 60, now 67.

That is a common problem.
And a symptom of relying on employers and the government to provide retirement income.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 09 April 2019, 10:39:37
Two coppers on horseback have just passed outside. Better late than......... ;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 April 2019, 10:45:11
Two coppers on horseback have just passed outside. Better late than......... ;D


Do you think they will catch the gentleman who torched your car? :)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 09 April 2019, 12:01:24
An senior ex-policeman that I know said that nowadays new recruits join up. find a cushy desk job to do their paperwork and sit back for 30 years until they get their (generous) pension!

Ron.

Rowlocks......

The senior ex policeman (like me) paid 11% of his top line into their pension for 30 years.

They (like me) only get their own coin back.  NO input from anyone else, eg Govt or golden hedge fund, not one brass razzoo from any other source.

The pension percentage taken today from a serving cop pays out tomorrow to the pensioners (again, like me).  No golden bucket somewhere in the Cayman Isles accruing interest.  Retirees are simply living longer and creating a draw that cannot be readily refilled.

Hence the financial requirement for current officers to pay an even bigger percentage of their monthly, for far longer, to get less of a pension as final salary pensions are no longer.  And ongoing loss of motivation and to see ‘the job’ as just that and not a career.

To continue, said senior ex policeman is out of touch of how policing operates now (unlike me...) as police officers are leaving in droves as they are unable to get said ‘cushy-desk jobs’ as they are now occupied by civilians (possibly ex job, ex senior officers, receiving their pensions already) but who now contribute an even greater percentage to government funds by way of taxes.

Or alternatively, someone has choicely taken parts of reality for a sound bite.

Just for clarification, and to put an alternate view to Bigrons Big Broadbrushing of a public misconception.   :)

That ex-senior officer is certainly out of touch with the modern policing I see, as the situation described by hotel21 is exactly what the situation is with certainly Kent Police, as the front desks, and many of those behind the scenes, are manned by civilians and all the individuals I work with in various departments at the Maidstone Training College and HQ are civilians.  It is only senior police officers who I see "at desks", and who issue the commands to us civilians with us giving the support, me as an advisor, and the Police Officers out there, spread extremely thinly,  in the field.

Our Crime and Police Commissioner has managed an increase in Kent Police recruitment, with extra Council Tax funding, and 200 front line officers are being trained and placed in the field, at the sharp end, NOT at "cushy desks" (now no such thing).  With this recruitment is another 80 CIVILIAN staff, who will do the behind the scenes, in support, work and yes, at desks.  The modern, current, Police Force cannot survive with trained, warranted, Police Officers sitting at desks; most nights just 'the few' Officers are covering the whole of Kent, with no reserves, fighting a Battle of Crime.  They are stretched, with, patrols shooting from one side of the County 999 call, to the other sides 999; hence why I have noted waits of 2 hours for a "police response" to such calls.

That is why they MUST have back the 20,000 officers, then some, to fight to correct what some are calling a broken justice system. :(
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Bigron on 09 April 2019, 12:52:27
My sincere apologies to all concerned; it seems that I was given out-of-date information. My "informant" was quite old and now runs a cafe in Dorset! :-[

Ron.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 09 April 2019, 13:06:28
Courtesy car just dropped off, a Skoda fabia Monte Carlo. It's quite a nice looking little box, and quite nippy once you stop stalling it due to the third pedal.  ;D Petrol, 1.0, 95PS with start/stop, DAB radio, Bluetooth, etc., all in all not bad for a courtesy car.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 April 2019, 13:12:20
Two coppers on horseback have just passed outside. Better late than......... ;D


Do you think they will catch the gentleman who torched your car? :)
Well, they've less chance of being set on fire whilst going door to door ;)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Andy B on 09 April 2019, 13:14:33
... it due to the third pedal.   ...

Why do they still fit 3 pedals to some cars ......  :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 April 2019, 13:18:48
... it due to the third pedal.   ...

Why do they still fit 3 pedals to some cars ......  :-\ :-\ :-\


Perhaps Jake the peg is still alive..... :)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 09 April 2019, 13:32:42
Two coppers on horseback have just passed outside. Better late than......... ;D


Do you think they will catch the gentleman who torched your car? :)
Well.....erm......let me see.........no.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 09 April 2019, 13:35:34
They caught these three Barnsley lads, though:

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/south-yorkshire-police-cars-set-alight-in-arson-attack-outside-station-1-9683787

Maybe because it was police cars?  ::)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 09 April 2019, 13:36:19
Two coppers on horseback have just passed outside. Better late than......... ;D


Do you think they will catch the gentleman who torched your car? :)
Well.....erm......let me see.........no.



They're using horses because their vehicles have been torched..😀😁😂
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 April 2019, 13:36:32
Two coppers on horseback have just passed outside. Better late than......... ;D


Do you think they will catch the gentleman who torched your car? :)
Well.....erm......let me see.........no.

At least you can console yourself in the fact that, with a bit of luck, he'll tread in some horse manure when he does his rounds later tonight. ::)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 09 April 2019, 13:37:15
Two coppers on horseback have just passed outside. Better late than......... ;D


Do you think they will catch the gentleman who torched your car? :)
Well.....erm......let me see.........no.



They're using horses because their vehicles have been torched..😀😁😂
Psychic? See my post above yours.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 09 April 2019, 13:37:21
My sincere apologies to all concerned; it seems that I was given out-of-date information. My "informant" was quite old and now runs a cafe in Dorset! :-[

Ron.

You fell into the trap, which we can all do, Ron of listening to someone who thinks "it's not like it was in my day".  Those individuals fail to update their knowledge of their "specialist" area.

I have mentioned in the past how we used to work alongside the police in my old profession, and actually had join our team two retired senior police officers to head up a Security Department to take the pressure off our aims to fight crime withing the organisation.  These two retired officers, one a Detective Chief Inspector, the other a Detective Chief Superintendent, were pre-PACE.  They had, in their time, completely different ways of bringing serious criminals to justice before PACE, and recognised in discussions with me how they used to cut corners and use what would be now considered unsafe methods to secure convictions.  They would consider modern Police Detectives as snowflakes, and would certainly state, as they did, that the Force is not like it used to be "in their day". Even my close friend, who I saw rise from a PC on the beat to retire fairly recently as a Chief Superintendent of a Traffic Division, would identify with the fact that policing has changed dramatically and the pressure is unnecessarily on them to keep the thin blue line strong.  Even modern hi-tech devices, like all the on board the patrol car equipment and even hand held units whereby they can avoid sitting at a desk back at base and write up statements, and much more, that are processed into the central system 'on the move', does not replace the bodies that the Police once had.

Times have changed greatly, but for the worse when it comes to fighting crime >:( >:(
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 April 2019, 13:41:43
Courtesy car just dropped off, a Skoda fabia Monte Carlo. It's quite a nice looking little box, and quite nippy once you stop stalling it due to the third pedal.  ;D Petrol, 1.0, 95PS with start/stop, DAB radio, Bluetooth, etc., all in all not bad for a courtesy car.

Don't fill it with the fuel of Satan by mistake. :)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 April 2019, 13:49:43
Courtesy car just dropped off, a Skoda fabia Monte Carlo. It's quite a nice looking little box, and quite nippy once you stop stalling it due to the third pedal.  ;D Petrol, 1.0, 95PS with start/stop, DAB radio, Bluetooth, etc., all in all not bad for a courtesy car.

Don't fill it with the fuel of Satan by mistake. :)
Actually do :D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Andy B on 09 April 2019, 14:10:25
..... and would certainly state, as they did, that the Force is not like it used to be "in their day".  ...

Having watched the 3 programmes recently about bringing 'The Yorkshire Ripper' to book it's a good job things have changed. It was a opps up from start to finish and Sutcliffe was only caught by a fluke & the good judgement of a single copper who had a hunch
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 April 2019, 15:08:13
..... and would certainly state, as they did, that the Force is not like it used to be "in their day".  ...

Having watched the 3 programmes recently about bringing 'The Yorkshire Ripper' to book it's a good job things have changed. It was a opps up from start to finish and Sutcliffe was only caught by a fluke & the good judgement of a single copper who had a hunch

Back in the mid eighties a friend of mine was turned away by ' a lady of the night ' because he apparently looked too much like the Yorkshire Ripper.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 April 2019, 16:32:47
..... and would certainly state, as they did, that the Force is not like it used to be "in their day".  ...

Having watched the 3 programmes recently about bringing 'The Yorkshire Ripper' to book it's a good job things have changed. It was a opps up from start to finish and Sutcliffe was only caught by a fluke & the good judgement of a single copper who had a hunch

Back in the mid eighties a friend of mine was turned away by ' a lady of the night ' because he apparently looked too much like the Yorkshire Ripper.

 ::)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 09 April 2019, 16:36:33
..... and would certainly state, as they did, that the Force is not like it used to be "in their day".  ...

Having watched the 3 programmes recently about bringing 'The Yorkshire Ripper' to book it's a good job things have changed. It was a opps up from start to finish and Sutcliffe was only caught by a fluke & the good judgement of a single copper who had a hunch

Back in the mid eighties a friend of mine was turned away by ' a lady of the night ' because he apparently looked too much like the Yorkshire Ripper.

 ::)
I know.  ;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Shackeng on 09 April 2019, 17:17:53
Lousy break Steve, but you have got the right attitude, Illegitimum non carborundum :y
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 April 2019, 18:39:16
..... and would certainly state, as they did, that the Force is not like it used to be "in their day".  ...

Having watched the 3 programmes recently about bringing 'The Yorkshire Ripper' to book it's a good job things have changed. It was a opps up from start to finish and Sutcliffe was only caught by a fluke & the good judgement of a single copper who had a hunch

Back in the mid eighties a friend of mine was turned away by ' a lady of the night ' because he apparently looked too much like the Yorkshire Ripper.

 ::)
I know.  ;D


Honest...... :)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 April 2019, 19:47:40
..... and would certainly state, as they did, that the Force is not like it used to be "in their day".  ...

Having watched the 3 programmes recently about bringing 'The Yorkshire Ripper' to book it's a good job things have changed. It was a opps up from start to finish and Sutcliffe was only caught by a fluke & the good judgement of a single copper who had a hunch

Back in the mid eighties a friend of mine was turned away by ' a lady of the night ' because he apparently looked too much like the Yorkshire Ripper.

 ::)
I know.  ;D


Honest...... :)

Of course....  :)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: hotel21 on 09 April 2019, 20:48:53
My sincere apologies to all concerned; it seems that I was given out-of-date information. My "informant" was quite old and now runs a cafe in Dorset! :-[

Ron.

No problem.  Every day is still a school day, no matter how old we get.   :y
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: 78bex on 09 April 2019, 23:55:14
note to self : replace utterly useless Jack Russel terrior & get huge doggie that can bring a man down on command ; but must be good with chilren  :) & can preferabally see in total darkness  ::);  cos the county of Hampshire now goes lights out between the hours of  1 & 4 AM  >:(   
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 April 2019, 09:34:29
note to self : replace utterly useless Jack Russel terrior & get huge doggie that can bring a man down on command ; but must be good with chilren  :) & can preferabally see in total darkness  ::);  cos the county of Hampshire now goes lights out between the hours of  1 & 4 AM  >:(

Lights out? They don't even have street lights in my corner of Hampshire. ;)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 10 April 2019, 11:28:42
note to self : replace utterly useless Jack Russel terrior & get huge doggie that can bring a man down on command ; but must be good with chilren  :) & can preferabally see in total darkness  ::);  cos the county of Hampshire now goes lights out between the hours of  1 & 4 AM  >:(

Lights out? They don't even have street lights in my corner of Hampshire. ;)
Electricity?
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 April 2019, 12:29:30
..... and would certainly state, as they did, that the Force is not like it used to be "in their day".  ...

Having watched the 3 programmes recently about bringing 'The Yorkshire Ripper' to book it's a good job things have changed. It was a opps up from start to finish and Sutcliffe was only caught by a fluke & the good judgement of a single copper who had a hunch

Back in the mid eighties a friend of mine was turned away by ' a lady of the night ' because he apparently looked too much like the Yorkshire Ripper.

 ::)
I know.  ;D


Honest...... :)

Of course....  :)

I give you my word as a gentleman that I speak only the truth. :)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 April 2019, 12:29:54
note to self : replace utterly useless Jack Russel terrior & get huge doggie that can bring a man down on command ; but must be good with chilren  :) & can preferabally see in total darkness  ::);  cos the county of Hampshire now goes lights out between the hours of  1 & 4 AM  >:(

Lights out? They don't even have street lights in my corner of Hampshire. ;)
Electricity?
Yes, it's not like Lincolnshire. :y
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 April 2019, 12:38:34
note to self : replace utterly useless Jack Russel terrior & get huge doggie that can bring a man down on command ; but must be good with chilren  :) & can preferabally see in total darkness  ::);  cos the county of Hampshire now goes lights out between the hours of  1 & 4 AM  >:(

Lights out? They don't even have street lights in my corner of Hampshire. ;)
Electricity?
Yes, it's not like Lincolnshire. :y


Nothing wrong with candles.

Indoor toilets are expected by 2050. :)........some twenty years before the people of the 'Norf' can expect such progress.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 April 2019, 12:51:02
note to self : replace utterly useless Jack Russel terrior & get huge doggie that can bring a man down on command ; but must be good with chilren  :) & can preferabally see in total darkness  ::);  cos the county of Hampshire now goes lights out between the hours of  1 & 4 AM  >:(

Lights out? They don't even have street lights in my corner of Hampshire. ;)

Yep, in the depths of glorious Hampshire, that I still love, you do not need them. Just enjoy the great countryside and the sound and smells of beautiful steam engines, that at night do have lights on them, whilst munching watercress!  Ahhhhhh, heaven!! :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 April 2019, 13:06:54
Yep, in the depths of glorious Hampshire, that I still love, you do not need them. Just enjoy the great countryside and the sound and smells of beautiful steam engines, that at night do have lights on them, whilst munching watercress!  Ahhhhhh, heaven!! :D :D ;)

Not sure if you've been following it but the steam engines are a little bit curtailed currently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uDQ4TTNOZE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uDQ4TTNOZE)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 April 2019, 13:23:33
Yep, in the depths of glorious Hampshire, that I still love, you do not need them. Just enjoy the great countryside and the sound and smells of beautiful steam engines, that at night do have lights on them, whilst munching watercress!  Ahhhhhh, heaven!! :D :D ;)

Not sure if you've been following it but the steam engines are a little bit curtailed currently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uDQ4TTNOZE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uDQ4TTNOZE)

Wow!!  At last they are replacing that bridge!!

No, I did not know about that Kevin, so thanks! :-* :y :y
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 10 April 2019, 13:33:07
..............and it led me on to find this 'last trains' film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7I05NCiiPE

The new bridge should be splendid though and greatly assist the traffic flow beneath it 8) 8) :y
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 April 2019, 15:14:18
..... and would certainly state, as they did, that the Force is not like it used to be "in their day".  ...

Having watched the 3 programmes recently about bringing 'The Yorkshire Ripper' to book it's a good job things have changed. It was a opps up from start to finish and Sutcliffe was only caught by a fluke & the good judgement of a single copper who had a hunch

Back in the mid eighties a friend of mine was turned away by ' a lady of the night ' because he apparently looked too much like the Yorkshire Ripper.

 ::)
I know.  ;D


Honest...... :)

Of course....  :)

I give you my word as a gentleman that I speak only the truth. :)

As a fellow gentleman, I believe that you speak the truth.  :)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 April 2019, 17:43:37
They were both there, so one of them is telling porkies :D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 April 2019, 17:48:35
They were both there, so one of them is telling porkies :D
Which one was the prostitute? ;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 10 April 2019, 18:43:06
Courtesy car just dropped off, a Skoda fabia Monte Carlo. It's quite a nice looking little box, and quite nippy once you stop stalling it due to the third pedal.  ;D Petrol, 1.0, 95PS with start/stop, DAB radio, Bluetooth, etc., all in all not bad for a courtesy car.
She certainly had a chance to reacquaint herself with the third pedal today. 2 hours 15 minutes Barnsley to Sheffield. The M1 was closed southbound for most of the day so the whole of South Yorkshire was a rat run.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: omegod on 10 April 2019, 20:09:22
Bloody hell STEMO that's a strange occurrence, what a pyro nutter !
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 10 April 2019, 20:24:22
Bloody hell STEMO that's a strange occurrence, what a pyro nutter !
Only six cars, Jon, quiet night in Liverpool.  ;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Olympia5776 on 10 April 2019, 21:34:26
A bit late to the thread been absent due to wife having a suspected heart attack.

What a bummer Steve , there are some weird people amongst us.
I'm pleased it was confined to the car and didn't spread but what a bizzare thing to do.
Get an IP camera fitted they are very effective ,cheap and may act as a deterent in the future.
The Police really should go after this guy and put an end to his actions.
Hope you get it all sorted.
Don
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 10 April 2019, 22:05:20
A bit late to the thread been absent due to wife having a suspected heart attack.

What a bummer Steve , there are some weird people amongst us.
I'm pleased it was confined to the car and didn't spread but what a bizzare thing to do.
Get an IP camera fitted they are very effective ,cheap and may act as a deterent in the future.
The Police really should go after this guy and put an end to his actions.
Hope you get it all sorted.
Don
Suspected heart attack sounds more serious to me, Don, cars can be replaced. I hope your wife makes a full recovery.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 April 2019, 22:10:25
A bit late to the thread been absent due to wife having a suspected heart attack.

What a bummer Steve , there are some weird people amongst us.
I'm pleased it was confined to the car and didn't spread but what a bizzare thing to do.
Get an IP camera fitted they are very effective ,cheap and may act as a deterent in the future.
The Police really should go after this guy and put an end to his actions.
Hope you get it all sorted.
Don
Suspected heart attack sounds more serious to me, Don, cars can be replaced. I hope your wife makes a full recovery.
Seconded. Family trumps everything else.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 April 2019, 22:44:10
A bit late to the thread been absent due to wife having a suspected heart attack.

What a bummer Steve , there are some weird people amongst us.
I'm pleased it was confined to the car and didn't spread but what a bizzare thing to do.
Get an IP camera fitted they are very effective ,cheap and may act as a deterent in the future.
The Police really should go after this guy and put an end to his actions.
Hope you get it all sorted.
Don
Suspected heart attack sounds more serious to me, Don, cars can be replaced. I hope your wife makes a full recovery.
Seconded. Family trumps everything else.

Thirded.  Sorry to hear this Don and I hope Mrs Olympia gets well soon.  :y
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Olympia5776 on 10 April 2019, 23:05:35
Thanks lads, I won't hijack the thread but she is on the mend and all looking good again .
She had one in 2011 so it was a very worrying time.
Don
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 April 2019, 01:02:08
Thanks lads, I won't hijack the thread but she is on the mend and all looking good again .
She had one in 2011 so it was a very worrying time.
Don
Good to hear :y
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 11 April 2019, 10:08:44
Just had a call to say the boss's car will be back tomorrow. Very good  :y

Cue Gollum.......... ::)
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: aaronjb on 11 April 2019, 10:20:12
Just had a call to say the boss's car will be back tomorrow. Very good  :y

Cue Gollum.......... ::)

Jeez. We're still waiting for Admiral to take 'er indoors car in for repair after it's accident at the start of March!
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: dave the builder on 11 April 2019, 10:40:01
Blimey  :o
that is fast
maybe they had a colour matched bumper in stock
not uncommon for repairers to use salvaged genuine parts
(which I'm ok with,genuine parts and recycling )
bet you'll miss that extra pedal and power on the loan sh*tbox Uncle Stemo  :P
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: STEMO on 11 April 2019, 12:50:45
Blimey  :o
that is fast
maybe they had a colour matched bumper in stock
not uncommon for repairers to use salvaged genuine parts
(which I'm ok with,genuine parts and recycling )
bet you'll miss that extra pedal and power on the loan sh*tbox Uncle Stemo  :P
They ordered the bumper before they took the car on the photo evidence.
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: henryd on 11 April 2019, 12:51:40
Blimey  :o
that is fast
maybe they had a colour matched bumper in stock
not uncommon for repairers to use salvaged genuine parts
(which I'm ok with,genuine parts and recycling )
bet you'll miss that extra pedal and power on the loan sh*tbox Uncle Stemo  :P
They ordered the bumper before they took the car on the photo evidence.

good quick service :y :y
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: BazaJT on 11 April 2019, 13:03:58
Bit of duck tape and a rattle can of red paint works wonders :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hectic night
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 April 2019, 13:09:36
Just had a call to say the boss's car will be back tomorrow. Very good  :y

Cue Gollum.......... ::)
Wait until you get it back...