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Andy B

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New discs & pads fitted
« on: 14 June 2009, 18:14:02 »

 ..... and my car feels a lot better at stopping! I've fitted the Vauxhall pads that came with the kit, I thought I might as well  ;).

I've not looked for the other pictures of old knackered discs but mine look very similar ie they were only braking on 2/3 of the inboard side of both discs.


Outer side, although worn, was uniformly worn.


This bit chipped off as I 'judiciously tapped' it off the hub.
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Re: New discs & pads fitted
« Reply #1 on: 14 June 2009, 18:15:36 »

I think mine are in a simelar state on the MV6....
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Re: New discs & pads fitted
« Reply #2 on: 14 June 2009, 18:21:04 »

Piece of cake to do. It's only another 2 M12 bolts (18mm socket/spanner) to remove the caliper carrier to change the discs than you would do if you just did the pads. Mind, one of them was bloody tight! Windy gun wouldn't shift it, had to hit spanner with large mallet to shift it.

Obviously all mating surfaces must be clean etc etc  :y
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Re: New discs & pads fitted
« Reply #3 on: 14 June 2009, 18:41:05 »

And heed the torque setting for the allen screw that locates the disk to hub - 4Nm.  Unlike the retarded mechanic who last did the fronts on my old tractor  >:(
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Re: New discs & pads fitted
« Reply #4 on: 14 June 2009, 18:46:44 »

I normally put a dusting layer of silver spray paint on the clean discs - not the braking face, obviously - to reduce the rust time of the vented part and the centre hub.  Keeps it cleaner/newer for longer....   :y

And agree with the allen bolt!   ;D
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Re: New discs & pads fitted
« Reply #5 on: 14 June 2009, 18:53:55 »

looks almost exactly the same as mine, maybe a little better, certainly the same issue. I dont suppose you re in a position to measure the disc thickness? See how much ware we are not being allowed the use of...?
 Would have measured mine but they are down the tip.
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Re: New discs & pads fitted
« Reply #6 on: 14 June 2009, 20:11:54 »

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....... I dont suppose you re in a position to measure the disc thickness? See how much ware we are not being allowed the use of...? ....

I'll look for my 0-25mm mic, trouble is they don't have much throat and can so only measure the first inch 25mm or so.
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Re: New discs & pads fitted
« Reply #7 on: 14 June 2009, 20:22:39 »

Andy they look well past their best mate, no wonder she brakes better now  ::)
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Re: New discs & pads fitted
« Reply #8 on: 14 June 2009, 20:33:09 »

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Andy they look well past their best mate, no wonder she brakes better now  ::)

hindsight is a wonderful thing .... so is looking at the back of the disc when it's been removed. The outboard side just looks a bit on the worn side, nothing like t'other side.
I bet my Astra's discs are the same if only I'd look!  ::)  ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #9 on: 14 June 2009, 20:38:47 »

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Andy they look well past their best mate, no wonder she brakes better now  ::)

hindsight is a wonderful thing .... so is looking at the back of the disc when it's been removed. The outboard side just looks a bit on the worn side, nothing like t'other side.
I bet my Astra's discs are the same if only I'd look!  ::)  ::) ::) ::)


Better look then mate else you could end up with a branch in ya eye  ;D
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« Reply #10 on: 14 June 2009, 20:44:16 »

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Andy they look well past their best mate, no wonder she brakes better now  ::)

hindsight is a wonderful thing .... so is looking at the back of the disc when it's been removed. The outboard side just looks a bit on the worn side, nothing like t'other side.
I bet my Astra's discs are the same if only I'd look!  ::)  ::) ::) ::)


Better look then mate else you could end up with a branch in ya eye  ;D


I looked the other day & bought new pads cos the backing plate looked to be very close to the disc. There was more lining than I'd expected when I took them out, just not very uniform.  ::)
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« Reply #11 on: 14 June 2009, 20:51:02 »

see your point with the micrometer.

Anyway, think its safe to assume the trade club pads are a false economy. Not to mention the poor performance they give even when new.
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Re: New discs & pads fitted
« Reply #12 on: 14 June 2009, 21:06:41 »

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see your point with the micrometer.

Anyway, think its safe to assume the trace club pads are a false economy. Not to mention the poor performance they give even when new.
eh? nought wrong with mine
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« Reply #13 on: 14 June 2009, 21:13:18 »

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see your point with the micrometer.

Anyway, think its safe to assume the trace club pads are a false economy. Not to mention the poor performance they give even when new.
eh? nought wrong with mine

Oh yes, you've been away havent you.


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« Reply #14 on: 14 June 2009, 21:55:18 »

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see your point with the micrometer.

Anyway, think its safe to assume the trace club pads are a false economy. Not to mention the poor performance they give even when new.
eh? nought wrong with mine

Oh yes, you've been away havent you.


Have a look here J.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1244128955
There have been a couple of posts recently showing discs in very similar condition to Andys, mine included. It would seem the after market pads used in these cases are the common denominator.
This has led me, on omegatoys recommendation, to fit oe pads, at £70 a set. Bloody steep, no need to tell me. But these oe pads, although not yet bedded in already give a marked improvement in feel and power at the pedal. There is also a suggestion, although only by a parts man, that only these pads should be used with vented discs.

But these are all minor details really. Whats important is that several members have experienced the inside edge disc failure and loss of performance that goes with it. The reason would appear to be break up on the corresponding pad, mine showed evidence of lumps missing.

Only time will tell if the new pads cure it. But, lets just say, i think is wise the check the inside face of all 4 of your discs paying special attention to the 10 mill nearest the outer edge.
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