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house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« on: 31 July 2019, 18:03:27 »

Trip went last night, during heavy rain. Just the living room circuit. Would not reset, unplugged everything, switched every socket off, still wouldn't. Rented accommodation, landlord got someone out asap, the came a short while ago, apparently its not the sockets, or the trip itself. Apparently major wiring issue, which will necessitate floorboards up, the works.

Not doubting him. But if I lost front braking and the mechanic advised completely replacing them, I'd ask on here before taking the plunge. Anyone add their twopenneth?  :y
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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #1 on: 31 July 2019, 18:10:20 »

I assume an RCD tripped rather than the MCB just for the lounge
possibly a combined "leakage" over multiple circuits
odd to have a dedicated circuit just for the lounge  :-\ is it a 20 amp radial ?
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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #2 on: 31 July 2019, 18:23:35 »

What difference does it make if your landlord is paying?
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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #3 on: 31 July 2019, 18:26:54 »

What difference does it make if your landlord is paying?
Inconvenience if it requires a complete rewire due to poor I.R readings
makes a mess doing wires  :P
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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #4 on: 31 July 2019, 18:33:14 »

What difference does it make if your landlord is paying?


This ^^^^^^^^

Stop overthinking it, let the landlord deal with it, not your problem.
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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #5 on: 31 July 2019, 19:11:44 »

What difference does it make if your landlord is paying?
Inconvenience if it requires a complete rewire due to poor I.R readings
makes a mess doing wires  :P
Yep, inconvenience is what you get when you need a rewire. Stops the inconvenience of your property burning down though.  :)
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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #6 on: 31 July 2019, 19:20:58 »

What difference does it make if your landlord is paying?
Inconvenience if it requires a complete rewire due to poor I.R readings
makes a mess doing wires  :P
Yep, inconvenience is what you get when you need a rewire. Stops the inconvenience of your property burning down though.  :)
just pour water on the wires that catch fire  :P
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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #7 on: 31 July 2019, 19:23:05 »

What difference does it make if your landlord is paying?
Inconvenience if it requires a complete rewire due to poor I.R readings
makes a mess doing wires  :P
Yep, inconvenience is what you get when you need a rewire. Stops the inconvenience of your property burning down though.  :)
just pour water on the wires that catch fire  :P
Pissing on them could be more exciting.  ;D
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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #8 on: 31 July 2019, 19:37:00 »

Haha. Right, it was the circuit breaker box under the stairs, though the place is clearly slightly bizarrely wired as I think one of the downstairs circuits also covers a room upstairs, from memory.

Correct, landlord paying, no issue etc, however the real reason is upheaval with a few weeks left of my Masters Degree, I ideally didn't want literally the house being turned upside-down when I'm aiming to concentrate on not failing the course!!   :D

However, as said above yes I will be very happy not dying in an electrical fire  :y

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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #9 on: 31 July 2019, 19:41:53 »

Anyone with an idea how to diagnose faults would have broken the ring at each socket and determined what section had the fault before ripping the house apart.

Did the sparky used to be a technician for a main dealer? ;D
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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #10 on: 31 July 2019, 20:01:53 »

See that's the kind of logic I was hoping for /expecting.  :y I'm getting this as hearsay from Miss DBG, so when I'm back from work ill get all the details bit sounds like what I've said, he's said its not the sockets. so serious fault 'somewhere'  ??? So lets rip floorboards up. Errmm!!

Obviously I'm not going to start poking and prodding with things which don't concern me, I know its not my responsibility, but I am interested, is all.
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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #11 on: 31 July 2019, 20:05:08 »

PS

Did the sparky used to be a technician for a main dealer? ;D

Hahahahahaha  :D ;D :D ;D
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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #12 on: 31 July 2019, 20:09:01 »

See that's the kind of logic I was hoping for /expecting.  :y I'm getting this as hearsay from Miss DBG, so when I'm back from work ill get all the details bit sounds like what I've said, he's said its not the sockets. so serious fault 'somewhere'  ??? So lets rip floorboards up. Errmm!!

Obviously I'm not going to start poking and prodding with things which don't concern me, I know its not my responsibility, but I am interested, is all.

Like Dave has stated, it is odd that your lounge is on it's own circuit. If it is a radial circuit, I would wonder about the rest of the wiring circuits. That kind of circuit in a house belongs to the 1950's, early 1960's! :o???

After saying that the wires under the floorboards, if they are where the short is, could be down to rodent attack. If the wires had been partially stripped of their insulation, when you had the heavy rain water could have caused them to short, hence the tripping.  Just a thought as we once had trouble with mice under our floorboards getting to the wires ;)
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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #13 on: 31 July 2019, 20:15:23 »

is there an outside light or sockets in a shed etc ?
that someone may have wired/plugged into the downstairs RFC (sockets)  :-\
that may explain why heavy rain and tripping coincided  :-\
I've seen capping nails hammered through cable,plastered over for years, that tripped the RCD when it rained and made the wall damp  ::)
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Re: house wiring gone bozwonk!!
« Reply #14 on: 31 July 2019, 22:13:28 »

Obviously more money for the sparky for a full rewire than just finding the faulty section ?
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