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Title: The 0.2%
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 July 2019, 13:42:31
.......who will decide who the next PM will be were on the television last night. I don't think I've seen so many doddery old farts in one place at the same time (apart from on OOF)

Average age 146 years. I'm pretty sure Albs was among them. :)
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: TheBoy on 09 July 2019, 14:07:11
Average age 146 years. I'm pretty sure Albs was among them. :)
His mere 130 years was lowering the average.  I'm surprised they let him join, being little more than a kid...
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 July 2019, 14:11:54
Far cough the pair of ya.  :P :P
No point me attending, watching or listening to those two having their debates or whatever they are doing. I posted my ballot off the same day it was delivered, and I suspect most people did the same.  ;)
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 July 2019, 14:16:51
So many walking sticks, Zimmer frames, and mobility scooters. It was hard to take it all in. :D

Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 July 2019, 14:18:18
With age and experience comes wisdom...…………………….sometimes.  :D
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 July 2019, 14:22:55
With age and experience comes wisdom...…………………….sometimes.  :D

Yes.....but most of members I saw looked well past the age of wisdom and well into the age of senility. :)

Pretty sure some of them think they are voting for Churchill. :)
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 July 2019, 14:36:04
Compared to the secretive back room stitch up that selected our new crop of Dear Leaders in Brussels (A lawyer to run a bank, 2 have convictions, 1 is under investigation and another lost a vote of no confidence in his last job!), the process to select the next leader of the Conservative and Unionist Party and our next Prime Minister is positively open, transparent and democratic!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: STEMO on 09 July 2019, 14:51:46
I have this feeling inside me.........that the whole fickin world has gone to rat shit. Anyone else?  ;D
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: TheBoy on 09 July 2019, 14:57:22
I have this feeling inside me.........that the whole fickin world has gone to rat shit. Anyone else?  ;D
Doesn't impact me, as I have a foil hat.
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 09 July 2019, 16:09:25
I have this feeling inside me.........that the whole fickin world has gone to rat shit. Anyone else?  ;D

Yes, and although I do not want to be pessimistic, it is going to get worse....................before becoming better???? ::) ::) ::) :P

We can only hope! ::) ::)
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 July 2019, 16:09:58
I have this feeling inside me.........that the whole fickin world has gone to rat shit. Anyone else?  ;D
Doesn't impact me, as I have a foil hat.

Won't impact exotic Barnsley either as it left the EU on 29th March. :)



Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Varche on 09 July 2019, 16:56:42
All academic.

0.2% are going to agree what? A temp leader of the Tories to temporarily be PM. And fail to achieve Brexit.

The key development today is Labour have agreed a new policy over Brexit in their never ending quest to get into power. Brexit is a dead duck
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 July 2019, 17:04:17
Labour have just given a few million votes to the Brexit party. If Boris cant deliver Brexit he will give even more millions of votes to them, and he knows it.
If it doesn't get delivered there will be a nuclear explosion in UK politics come the next election.
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 July 2019, 17:10:06
Labour have just given a few million votes to the Brexit party. If Boris cant deliver Brexit he will give even more millions of votes to them, and he knows it.
If it doesn't get delivered there will be a nuclear explosion in UK politics come the next election.

There will be tears before bedtime......that's for sure. ::)
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 09 July 2019, 17:14:53
Labour have just given a few million votes to the Brexit party. If Boris cant deliver Brexit he will give even more millions of votes to them, and he knows it.
If it doesn't get delivered there will be a nuclear explosion in UK politics come the next election.

Yep, Corbyn has now, it would seem, pinned his colours to the mast..............................well for the time being anyway! ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Varche on 09 July 2019, 17:20:54
I am not so sure about losing votes.

For sure there will be some with principles that will switch but most people are creatures of habit and very forgiving.  Throw a few sweeteners in like free tv licence, bus pass, tax threshold increase, write off student loan and people forget the foul ups in the last few years.
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 July 2019, 17:33:43
I am not so sure about losing votes.

For sure there will be some with principles that will switch but most people are creatures of habit and very forgiving.  Throw a few sweeteners in like free tv licence, bus pass, tax threshold increase, write off student loan debt and people forget the foul ups in the last few years.
This will never happen as no one could afford to cover it.
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Varche on 09 July 2019, 21:05:45
well it was just an example. the point is people are very forgiving and easily seduced by the next offer
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Olympia5776 on 09 July 2019, 21:15:03
 I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: STEMO on 09 July 2019, 21:19:02
I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.
Next you'll be telling us that Len McCluskey is running the Labour Party through Momentum.  ::)
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Nick W on 09 July 2019, 21:45:39
I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.


Why?
The bigger unions started the Labour party to represent them in national politics. Hence the name and it's why they still have a large influence on the party.
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 July 2019, 21:50:52
I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.


Why?
The bigger unions started the Labour party to represent them in national politics. Hence the name and it's why they still own and fund the party.
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 July 2019, 21:52:39
I am not so sure about losing votes.

For sure there will be some with principles that will switch but most people are creatures of habit and very forgiving.  Throw a few sweeteners in like free tv licence, bus pass, tax threshold increase, write off student loan debt and people forget the foul ups in the last few years.
This will never happen as no one could afford to cover it.

When has that ever deterred the Labour party?  ::)
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Raeturbo on 09 July 2019, 23:47:02
There’s no fool like an old fool :y
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Olympia5776 on 10 July 2019, 07:55:53
I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.


Why?
The bigger unions started the Labour party to represent them in national politics. Hence the name and it's why they still have a large influence on the party.

Disturbing in the fact that after more than three years of watching the Labour party avoid commitment to any fully fledged policy on our departure they publicly announce their direction and intention as soon as the edict was e mailed to them from their fund managers.
I, perhaps more than you think , understand the history and origins of the Labour party movement but my point was/is that the haste in which the new policy was announced and adopted makes the current cabal at Labours top table look ĺike the faces of faceless men.
I think it shows the turmoil within Labour because even any young newly qualified PR spin doctor would have cautioned that haste to disguise the obvious order to jump, higher.
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 July 2019, 08:40:27
I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.


Why?
The bigger unions started the Labour party to represent them in national politics. Hence the name and it's why they still have a large influence on the party.

Disturbing in the fact that after more than three years of watching the Labour party avoid commitment to any fully fledged policy on our departure they publicly announce their direction and intention as soon as the edict was e mailed to them from their fund managers.
I, perhaps more than you think , understand the history and origins of the Labour party movement but my point was/is that the haste in which the new policy was announced and adopted makes the current cabal at Labours top table look ĺike the faces of faceless men.
I think it shows the turmoil within Labour because even any young newly qualified PR spin doctor would have cautioned that haste to disguise the obvious order to jump, higher.

All the noisy cyber-lefties would be screaming blue murder if the Tories changed a signature policy so quickly after being lent on by big business.  ::)
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Nick W on 10 July 2019, 13:12:41


All the noisy cyber-lefties would be screaming blue murder if the Tories changed a signature policy so quickly after being lent on by big business.  ::)


lefties know that they have to wait until they've left office before receiving their bung. You know, £10million fhnding of your own institute, whatever that's supposed to be
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: STEMO on 10 July 2019, 15:01:45
.......who will decide who the next PM will be were on the television last night. I don't think I've seen so many doddery old farts in one place at the same time (apart from on OOF)

Average age 146 years. I'm pretty sure Albs was among them. :)
Jonathan Pie seems to think both candidates would make excellent PM's:

https://youtu.be/R-CIggoU4VM
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Rods2 on 10 July 2019, 19:28:38
0.2% voting is still 0.2% more than voted in the new appointed Brussels' dictatorship leaders. >:( On Twitter it is strange that all those that have pointed out that only a small percentage of Tory party members vote for our next PM, you would think that if they were so concerned about democracy the EU appointments would have raised more than their deafening silence. :(

Civilizations are usually destroyed through invasion, getting elected & pulling up the democracy drawbridge to create your dictatorship (Germany, Venezuela, Russia & Turkey are examples) or political paralysis & destruction by a combination of vested interests & suversion from within. It looks like the latter two will destroy all Western civilization over the next decade, when we will all become much, much poorer & have little freedom as the new authoritarian dictators steal the majority of the countries wealth as they have in Russia, North Korea, Venezuela, China, Ukraine & other countries.

You will still get meaningless elections where it gives dictators a thin veil of legitimacy in their own minds as they steal, plunder & kill.
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 10 July 2019, 20:11:47
I found it quite disturbing that Labour's now confirmed mantra came less than 24 hours after the Unions decided that that is what they had to adopt.


Why?
The bigger unions started the Labour party to represent them in national politics. Hence the name and it's why they still have a large influence on the party.
And yesterdays decision cut the last ties with the working class people they were both formed to represent, in favour of the middle class liberal left, educated stupid, who discuss the plight of such people, remotely, in their multi million pound houses in Islington and similar Metropolitan areas. 
The north of England is a far off foreign country to these people, and I suspect that it soon will become a lot more foreign to them.  ;)
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: New POD on 10 July 2019, 20:23:00
When TreesaMayNot got in to be PM, a friend of mine, a loyal member of Momentum and the labour party and a union rep in his workplace, Joined the conservative party.

His words to me "I'm going to be one of them that's choosing the next Prime Minister" 

oppsing HOBSONS choice.
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 10 July 2019, 20:27:58
I also joined to choose the next PM, and everyone else could have done the same, as it was obvious it was soon going to happen.
Ive never voted Tory in my life. They are far too left wing for my liking.  :)
Im glad your friend and people like him have hijacked the Labour party as it seems pretty likely that they are well on the way to destroying the carcass of it, which will be a good thing.
Maybe the party that comes to the fore when the two big parties finally die, will genuinely be interested in the good of the whole country. We can only hope.
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 July 2019, 20:55:55
Here's a question, is it possible or even legal to be an active member of BOTH political parties AND a trade union?

Certainly not ethical :-X
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Raeturbo on 10 July 2019, 21:38:32
Bet that would pay well :D
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Nick W on 10 July 2019, 21:43:00
Here's a question, is it possible or even legal to be an active member of BOTH political parties AND a trade union?

Certainly not ethical :-X


Being an active member of both parties would be a bit odd, but illegal?
There are plenty of reasons to be a member of a union even if you're a conservative party member. It's required if you work in a closed shop.
Title: Re: The 0.2%
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 10 July 2019, 22:44:46
Arent closed shops illegal now ? If they aren't they certainly should be.