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[STEMO]

Mezzanine says he's going to trigger one if TM doesn't give a firm date for the meaningful vote when she addresses the commons at 15:30. The DUP will save the government, surely? Perhaps another £billion might keep them onside.

[STEMO]

Shit! I'm still watching the news. 

[STEMO]

So, after another hour of hot air, the options remain the same:
1) The commons get so desperate to avoid a no deal, they back her deal
2) No deal
3) Extend Art 50
4) Rescind Art 50
5) Another referendum.

I can't see 1 happening. 2 is a distinct possibility. 3 and 4 won't get the backing of a majority in the house. 5, again a possibility, although one learned lady said this afternoon that that would be unlawful.

[Viral_Jim]

5, again a possibility, although one learned lady said this afternoon that that would be unlawful.

Did she say why she thought that?

[Sir Tigger KC]

Mezzanine says he's going to trigger one if TM doesn't give a firm date for the meaningful vote when she addresses the commons at 15:30. The DUP will save the government, surely? Perhaps another £billion might keep them onside.

Well she swerved that quite easily! 

[STEMO]

Mezzanine says he's going to trigger one if TM doesn't give a firm date for the meaningful vote when she addresses the commons at 15:30. The DUP will save the government, surely? Perhaps another £billion might keep them onside.

Well she swerved that quite easily! 

Mezzanine? HTF didn't I notice that? I meant Jezza, of course.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Mezzanine says he's going to trigger one if TM doesn't give a firm date for the meaningful vote when she addresses the commons at 15:30. The DUP will save the government, surely? Perhaps another £billion might keep them onside.

Well she swerved that quite easily! 

Mezzanine? HTF didn't I notice that? I meant Jezza, of course.

I knew what you meant Uncle STEMO, just assumed you were having a senior moment! 

[STEMO]

Mezzanine says he's going to trigger one if TM doesn't give a firm date for the meaningful vote when she addresses the commons at 15:30. The DUP will save the government, surely? Perhaps another £billion might keep them onside.

Well she swerved that quite easily! 

Mezzanine? HTF didn't I notice that? I meant Jezza, of course.

I knew what you meant Uncle STEMO, just assumed you were having a senior moment! 

Predictive text. Don't know why I don't turn it off.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm not sure but I think JC has just called a No Confidence vote. 

A motion.... so maybe not binding?                        

I await the runny poo jokes! 

[STEMO]

I'm not sure but I think JC has just called a No Confidence vote. 

A motion.... so maybe not binding?                        

I await the runny poo jokes! 

 

[STEMO]

I'm not sure but I think JC has just called a No Confidence vote. 

A motion.... so maybe not binding?                        

I await the runny poo jokes! 

He's called for a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister, not the government. So, even if it carries, it will just be another embarrassment for TM, not a big deal for the sitting government. She can't be deposed, of course, because she won the confidence vote from her own party last week.

[Entwood]

He's a pointless bag of hot air, more intersted in appeasing his union paymasters than anything else.

Along with many of his party, and unfortunately quite a few Conservatives, he totally fails to understand simple English ....

The EU have stated, several times, that the deal on the table cannot be renegotiated .... yet he tries to insinuate that he can negotiate a "better" deal .... I with who

All these ideas of "alternative deals" are dreams if the EU will not, and they have repeatedly said they won't, reopen negotiations.

Let's just say to the EU "stop trying to dictate to us, we are leaving with no deal in place, you can do what you want"   

[STEMO]

5, again a possibility, although one learned lady said this afternoon that that would be unlawful.

Did she say why she thought that?

Sorry, Jimmy, only just saw your reply. As I understood it: For there to be a second referendum to overturn the result of the first, something has to be printed on the first ballot paper to the effect that a second referendum is possible. I have no idea if this is correct or how it would work.

[STEMO]

He's a pointless bag of hot air, more intersted in appeasing his union paymasters than anything else.

Along with many of his party, and unfortunately quite a few Conservatives, he totally fails to understand simple English ....

The EU have stated, several times, that the deal on the table cannot be renegotiated .... yet he tries to insinuate that he can negotiate a "better" deal .... I with who

All these ideas of "alternative deals" are dreams if the EU will not, and they have repeatedly said they won't, reopen negotiations.

Let's just say to the EU "stop trying to dictate to us, we are leaving with no deal in place, you can do what you want"   

On the other hand, Nige, TM knows that the deal can't be renegotiated, and that it won't pass in the house, but refuses to let go of it. Is she waiting for divine intervention?

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm not sure but I think JC has just called a No Confidence vote. 

A motion.... so maybe not binding?                        

I await the runny poo jokes! 

He's called for a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister, not the government. So, even if it carries, it will just be another embarrassment for TM, not a big deal for the sitting government. She can't be deposed, of course, because she won the confidence vote from her own party last week.

Ah OK I misunderstood that. 

But I was right that it's a 'motion'? 

[STEMO]

I'm not sure but I think JC has just called a No Confidence vote. 

A motion.... so maybe not binding?                        

I await the runny poo jokes! 

He's called for a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister, not the government. So, even if it carries, it will just be another embarrassment for TM, not a big deal for the sitting government. She can't be deposed, of course, because she won the confidence vote from her own party last week.

Ah OK I misunderstood that. 

But I was right that it's a 'motion'? 

Who's a motion....Corbyn? 

[STEMO]

When I worked on the building, and was unblocking a choked manhole, my boss would always say "Get stuck into it, don't just go through the motions". Funny bastard, he was 

[Entwood]

He's a pointless bag of hot air, more intersted in appeasing his union paymasters than anything else.

Along with many of his party, and unfortunately quite a few Conservatives, he totally fails to understand simple English ....

The EU have stated, several times, that the deal on the table cannot be renegotiated .... yet he tries to insinuate that he can negotiate a "better" deal .... I with who

All these ideas of "alternative deals" are dreams if the EU will not, and they have repeatedly said they won't, reopen negotiations.

Let's just say to the EU "stop trying to dictate to us, we are leaving with no deal in place, you can do what you want"   

On the other hand, Nige, TM knows that the deal can't be renegotiated, and that it won't pass in the house, but refuses to let go of it. Is she waiting for divine intervention?

She's screwed, up to a major point !! ... as Parliament have "demanded" a vote, they must have a vote, even if we all know that the vote will be "no". She has to give them something to vote on (as they demanded it), and the only item is the EU's "final" offer.

So, once the vote goes against the "deal" ... what then ?? we leave under "no deal" rules I hope.

Personally, I'd love to see her give all MP's a free vote, and to vote against it herself, just to ensure we leave under "no deal" .... and watch Varadkar scream and whinge then !!

[STEMO]

He's a pointless bag of hot air, more intersted in appeasing his union paymasters than anything else.

Along with many of his party, and unfortunately quite a few Conservatives, he totally fails to understand simple English ....

The EU have stated, several times, that the deal on the table cannot be renegotiated .... yet he tries to insinuate that he can negotiate a "better" deal .... I with who

All these ideas of "alternative deals" are dreams if the EU will not, and they have repeatedly said they won't, reopen negotiations.

Let's just say to the EU "stop trying to dictate to us, we are leaving with no deal in place, you can do what you want"   

On the other hand, Nige, TM knows that the deal can't be renegotiated, and that it won't pass in the house, but refuses to let go of it. Is she waiting for divine intervention?

She's screwed, up to a major point !! ... as Parliament have "demanded" a vote, they must have a vote, even if we all know that the vote will be "no". She has to give them something to vote on (as they demanded it), and the only item is the EU's "final" offer.

So, once the vote goes against the "deal" ... what then ?? we leave under "no deal" rules I hope.

Personally, I'd love to see her give all MP's a free vote, and to vote against it herself, just to ensure we leave under "no deal" .... and watch Varadkar scream and whinge then !!

Agreed. But why wait until after Christmas for the vote? What is she hoping to gain?

[Entwood]

He's a pointless bag of hot air, more intersted in appeasing his union paymasters than anything else.

Along with many of his party, and unfortunately quite a few Conservatives, he totally fails to understand simple English ....

The EU have stated, several times, that the deal on the table cannot be renegotiated .... yet he tries to insinuate that he can negotiate a "better" deal .... I with who

All these ideas of "alternative deals" are dreams if the EU will not, and they have repeatedly said they won't, reopen negotiations.

Let's just say to the EU "stop trying to dictate to us, we are leaving with no deal in place, you can do what you want"   

On the other hand, Nige, TM knows that the deal can't be renegotiated, and that it won't pass in the house, but refuses to let go of it. Is she waiting for divine intervention?

She's screwed, up to a major point !! ... as Parliament have "demanded" a vote, they must have a vote, even if we all know that the vote will be "no". She has to give them something to vote on (as they demanded it), and the only item is the EU's "final" offer.

So, once the vote goes against the "deal" ... what then ?? we leave under "no deal" rules I hope.

Personally, I'd love to see her give all MP's a free vote, and to vote against it herself, just to ensure we leave under "no deal" .... and watch Varadkar scream and whinge then !!

Agreed. But why wait until after Christmas for the vote? What is she hoping to gain?

More pressure on the EU to change the "backstop" ?? as a "no deal" result is actually 100% the opposite of what the "backstop" envisages ??

[Olympia5776]

He's a pointless bag of hot air, more intersted in appeasing his union paymasters than anything else.

Along with many of his party, and unfortunately quite a few Conservatives, he totally fails to understand simple English ....

The EU have stated, several times, that the deal on the table cannot be renegotiated .... yet he tries to insinuate that he can negotiate a "better" deal .... I with who

All these ideas of "alternative deals" are dreams if the EU will not, and they have repeatedly said they won't, reopen negotiations.

Let's just say to the EU "stop trying to dictate to us, we are leaving with no deal in place, you can do what you want"   

On the other hand, Nige, TM knows that the deal can't be renegotiated, and that it won't pass in the house, but refuses to let go of it. Is she waiting for divine intervention?

She's screwed, up to a major point !! ... as Parliament have "demanded" a vote, they must have a vote, even if we all know that the vote will be "no". She has to give them something to vote on (as they demanded it), and the only item is the EU's "final" offer.

So, once the vote goes against the "deal" ... what then ?? we leave under "no deal" rules I hope.

Personally, I'd love to see her give all MP's a free vote, and to vote against it herself, just to ensure we leave under "no deal" .... and watch Varadkar scream and whinge then !!

I believe he does that when he's off duty anyway............

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I'm not sure but I think JC has just called a No Confidence vote. 

A motion.... so maybe not binding?                        

I await the runny poo jokes! 

He's called for a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister, not the government. So, even if it carries, it will just be another embarrassment for TM, not a big deal for the sitting government. She can't be deposed, of course, because she won the confidence vote from her own party last week.

Ah OK I misunderstood that. 

But I was right that it's a 'motion'? 

Who's a motion....Corbyn? 

He certainly has a serious case of verbal dysentery.

The reasonable, sensible OOFer from Swindon is starting to sound just like me. That's what those T wats in the EU can do to normal decent people. 

[Doctor Gollum]

What's your excuse? 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Im just an objectionable R sole. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I'm not sure but I think JC has just called a No Confidence vote. 

A motion.... so maybe not binding?                        

I await the runny poo jokes! 

Reminds me of that V.I Poo stuff they advertise on TV.

Why not give it as a Christmas gift, they say. I mean, who would give that as an 'Xmas prezzie'?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

He's a pointless bag of hot air, more intersted in appeasing his union paymasters than anything else.

Along with many of his party, and unfortunately quite a few Conservatives, he totally fails to understand simple English ....

The EU have stated, several times, that the deal on the table cannot be renegotiated .... yet he tries to insinuate that he can negotiate a "better" deal .... I with who

All these ideas of "alternative deals" are dreams if the EU will not, and they have repeatedly said they won't, reopen negotiations.

Let's just say to the EU "stop trying to dictate to us, we are leaving with no deal in place, you can do what you want"   

On the other hand, Nige, TM knows that the deal can't be renegotiated, and that it won't pass in the house, but refuses to let go of it. Is she waiting for divine intervention?

She's screwed, up to a major point !! ... as Parliament have "demanded" a vote, they must have a vote, even if we all know that the vote will be "no". She has to give them something to vote on (as they demanded it), and the only item is the EU's "final" offer.

So, once the vote goes against the "deal" ... what then ?? we leave under "no deal" rules I hope.

Personally, I'd love to see her give all MP's a free vote, and to vote against it herself, just to ensure we leave under "no deal" .... and watch Varadkar scream and whinge then !!

Agreed. But why wait until after Christmas for the vote? What is she hoping to gain?

Just being 'a bloody awkward woman'

[STEMO]

I'm not sure but I think JC has just called a No Confidence vote. 

A motion.... so maybe not binding?                        

I await the runny poo jokes! 

Reminds me of that V.I Poo stuff they advertise on TV.

Why not give it as a Christmas gift, they say. I mean, who would give that as an 'Xmas prezzie'?

I cringe when I see that. Do they really think that people would even consider that as a gift. I'd be too embarrassed to even buy it for myself.
Not that it would be any good. I usually crap myself before I get to the toilet. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I'm not sure but I think JC has just called a No Confidence vote. 

A motion.... so maybe not binding?                        

I await the runny poo jokes! 

Reminds me of that V.I Poo stuff they advertise on TV.

Why not give it as a Christmas gift, they say. I mean, who would give that as an 'Xmas prezzie'?

I cringe when I see that. Do they really think that people would even consider that as a gift. I'd be too embarrassed to even buy it for myself.
Not that it would be any good. I usually crap myself before I get to the toilet. 

The ideal gift for a young lad to give to his first girlfriend.......

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

......his only girlfriend.

[STEMO]

......his only girlfriend.

......and his last girlfriend. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Did anyone watch Corbyn say "stupid woman" on camera today ? First time I saw it I thought " oh there will be trouble over this", and there was.
Bercow got his knickers in an enormous twist, and then Corbyn came back to the commons and swore blind that he said no such thing.
It was the best Christmas panto Ive sen in years. 

[Entwood]

Did anyone watch Corbyn say "stupid woman" on camera today ? First time I saw it I thought " oh there will be trouble over this", and there was.
Bercow got his knickers in an enormous twist, and then Corbyn came back to the commons and swore blind that he said no such thing.
It was the best Christmas panto Ive sen in years. 

To be honest it was pathetic ... it is pretty obvious what he said, you only have to watch the numerous replays to see, and so he lies.......yet again ....  the same person who says he can negotiate a new deal with an EU who will not reopen negotiations ... the same person who stood on platform of "leave" but is doing all he can to prevent that happening .....

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Much ado about nothing.

I'm surprised so much has been made of such trivia.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

......almost a term of endearment.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Much ado about nothing.

I'm surprised so much has been made of such trivia.

If he had admitted to saying what he very obviously did it would all be done and dusted in the main. But, no he lied, and it also showed his contempt for women in a Parliament that one hundred years ago admitted women to "the club".  If a man had said something he didn't like, would he have said "stupid man"?  No, he said what he did in contempt of the PM, and women, and then lied about it.

This man should also step down when TM goes to allow politics to regain whatever dignity and value it can.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Much ado about nothing.

I'm surprised so much has been made of such trivia.

If he had admitted to saying what he very obviously did it would all be done and dusted in the main. But, no he lied, and it also showed his contempt for women in a Parliament that one hundred years ago admitted women to "the club".  If a man had said something he didn't like, would he have said "stupid man"?  No, he said what he did in contempt of the PM, and women, and then lied about it.

This man should also step down when TM goes to allow politics to regain whatever dignity and value it can.

That reminds me of poor old Pike.......stupid boy.

....and you may be right when you said he lied, Lizzie. But these are politicians after all.

I've heard rumour that even the POTUS doesn't always tell the truth.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Did anyone watch Corbyn say "stupid woman" on camera today ? First time I saw it I thought " oh there will be trouble over this", and there was.
Bercow got his knickers in an enormous twist, and then Corbyn came back to the commons and swore blind that he said no such thing.
It was the best Christmas panto Ive sen in years. 

To be honest it was pathetic ... it is pretty obvious what he said, you only have to watch the numerous replays to see, and so he lies.......yet again ....  the same person who says he can negotiate a new deal with an EU who will not reopen negotiations ... the same person who stood on platform of "leave" but is doing all he can to prevent that happening .....

…...the same person who proudly supported the IRA campaign against his own country, the same person who invited their leaders as his personal guests to the commons not long after they had tried to murder the whole British Govt, the same person who now claims all he was ever interested in was trying to bring about peace...…..I could go on and on about him.
I just wish we could bring back high treason and hanging for it, and make it retrospective.
He is vile and dangerous with an image of a friendly cuddly uncle.

[Varche]

The majority of all the MPs should go. For nearly two years they have drawn 75 k a year approx and failed to agree an exit strategy. Instead they have acted like rogue agents. It is shameful.
Both leaders should shoulder the blame. Corbyn isn't a statesman.

100 days to go to sort out a no deal. Politicians will be exempt from the fallout. You should demand your money back if your MP has not followed how their constituents voted.

[STEMO]

I've stopped commenting on the whole process now. I am deeply ashamed of our politicians of all colours. It's descended into a point scoring, name calling contest and, no matter what the final outcome, grudges will be held for years to come.

Personally, I still want to leave, btw.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I've stopped commenting on the whole process now. I am deeply ashamed of our politicians of all colours. It's descended into a point scoring, name calling contest and, no matter what the final outcome, grudges will be held for years to come.

Personally, I still want to leave, btw.

The very definition of the word leave is ambiguous.

I would say that the only real 'leave' is a no deal brexit. What TM is offering is more in than out.
 

[aaronjb]

Did anyone watch Corbyn say "stupid woman" on camera today ? First time I saw it I thought " oh there will be trouble over this", and there was.
Bercow got his knickers in an enormous twist, and then Corbyn came back to the commons and swore blind that he said no such thing.
It was the best Christmas panto Ive sen in years. 

What I find interesting is that all the young women I know - who are, in general, giant SJWs (that's Social Justice Warriors), raging about the patriarchy and how it keeps women down etc etc.. but are also Corbyn supporters.. have said absolutely diddley squat about it.

I guess it's only the patriarchy if they're Conservatives too.

[Doctor Gollum]

Did anyone watch Corbyn say "stupid woman" on camera today ? First time I saw it I thought " oh there will be trouble over this", and there was.
Bercow got his knickers in an enormous twist, and then Corbyn came back to the commons and swore blind that he said no such thing.
It was the best Christmas panto Ive sen in years. 

What I find interesting is that all the young women I know - who are, in general, giant SJWs (that's Social Justice Warriors), raging about the patriarchy and how it keeps women down etc etc.. but are also Corbyn supporters.. have said absolutely diddley squat about it.

I guess it's only the patriarchy if they're Conservatives too.

Notwithstanding the fact that the Tories have had two women PM, (one in the testosterone fueled '70s and '80s no less), yet when John Smith died, the Labour (an oxymoron if ever there was) party only allowed Margaret Beckett to lead the party as it took four months to find a suitable man to run it...

 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Did anyone watch Corbyn say "stupid woman" on camera today ? First time I saw it I thought " oh there will be trouble over this", and there was.
Bercow got his knickers in an enormous twist, and then Corbyn came back to the commons and swore blind that he said no such thing.
It was the best Christmas panto Ive sen in years. 

What I find interesting is that all the young women I know - who are, in general, giant SJWs (that's Social Justice Warriors), raging about the patriarchy and how it keeps women down etc etc.. but are also Corbyn supporters.. have said absolutely diddley squat about it.

I guess it's only the patriarchy if they're Conservatives too.

Notwithstanding the fact that the Tories have had two women PM, (one in the testosterone fueled '70s and '80s no less), yet when John Smith died, the Labour (an oxymoron if ever there was) party only allowed Margaret Beckett to lead the party as it took four months to find an unsuitable man to run it...

 

FTFY Dr G! 

[Doctor Gollum]

True dat

And what a meglomanical oppstard he turned out to be

[Sir Tigger KC]

True dat

And what a meglomanical oppstard he turned out to be

Yes and you're clearly a big fan! 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

 A spider in the bath is all that is required for women to realise just how much they really need men.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Did anyone watch Corbyn say "stupid woman" on camera today ? First time I saw it I thought " oh there will be trouble over this", and there was.
Bercow got his knickers in an enormous twist, and then Corbyn came back to the commons and swore blind that he said no such thing.
It was the best Christmas panto Ive sen in years. 

To be honest it was pathetic ... it is pretty obvious what he said, you only have to watch the numerous replays to see, and so he lies.......yet again ....  the same person who says he can negotiate a new deal with an EU who will not reopen negotiations ... the same person who stood on platform of "leave" but is doing all he can to prevent that happening .....

…...the same person who proudly supported the IRA campaign against his own country, the same person who invited their leaders as his personal guests to the commons not long after they had tried to murder the whole British Govt, the same person who now claims all he was ever interested in was trying to bring about peace...…..I could go on and on about him.
I just wish we could bring back high treason and hanging for it, and make it retrospective.
He is vile and dangerous with an image of a friendly cuddly uncle.

I think he has made it very public on all too many occasions of how nasty he really is to ever be considered a friendly cuddly uncle

[Sir Tigger KC]

Imagine the hoo haa if Boris or JRM had called Diane Abbott a stupid woman. 

The Guardianistas would have been apocalyptic in right-on rage and the row would have rumbled on for days if not weeks. 

JC does it and the re-mainstream media have already moved on. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Imagine the hoo haa if Boris or JRM had called Diane Abbott a stupid woman. 

The Guardianistas would have been apocalyptic in right-on rage and the row would have rumbled on for days if not weeks. 

JC does it and the re-mainstream media have already moved on. 

If Ms Abbott loses her job I'm sure a benevolent soul such as Jacob Rees Mogg would offer her minimum wage employment as his scullery maid or cook.

He may even allow her to sleep in the house.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Imagine the hoo haa if Boris or JRM had called Diane Abbott a stupid woman. 

The Guardianistas would have been apocalyptic in right-on rage and the row would have rumbled on for days if not weeks. 

JC does it and the re-mainstream media have already moved on. 

As a child I imagine 'nanny' would read him bedtime stories about the uncivilised piccaninny children who had no shoes and lived in 'the dark continent'

Being a sensitive soul his monocle would mist up.

[Viral_Jim]

Much ado about nothing.

I'm surprised so much has been made of such trivia.

If he had admitted to saying what he very obviously did it would all be done and dusted in the main. But, no he lied, and it also showed his contempt for women in a Parliament that one hundred years ago admitted women to "the club".  If a man had said something he didn't like, would he have said "stupid man"?  No, he said what he did in contempt of the PM, and women, and then lied about it.

This man should also step down when TM goes to allow politics to regain whatever dignity and value it can.

Meanwhile TM reinstated a couple of MPs accused of sexual misconduct to bolster her support. But sure, keep battering on about how much of a nasty man corbyn is 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/12/tory-mps-suspended-over-sex-allegations-reinstated-for-confidence-vote

[Sir Tigger KC]

But sure, keep battering on about how much of a nasty man corbyn is 

OK 

Corbyn is a misogynistic anti-semite terrorist loving old communist, who wants to drag us back to the 1970's, has shown no leadership on Brexit where he has largely been absent from the debate and apart from a few thousand Labour party members and the Momentum hate mob has little support in the country at large and almost none in the Parliamentary Labour Party. 

I'm sure others will recommend him as well. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Oh yes.  He shagged Diane Abbott which just shows incredibly bad judgement. 

So how anyone thinks he would be a good occupant of 10 Downing Street....   

[Viral_Jim]

has shown no leadership on Brexit where he has largely been absent

As opposed to the "Brexit means Brexit" automaton? Not really much contrast to be found there...

I'm no corbynite, but the myopic way most on this forum view politics in the UK is risible. On the one hand derriding the "left wing mouthpiece" that allegedly is the BBC, while, with no sense if irony, quoting such illustrious tomes as the daily fail...

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

You wont find me quoting the Daily fail. They got rid of the editor a couple of months ago and the new one is a big supporter of May and the softest of soft Brexits. I suspect he just wasn't quite pink enough for the Grauniad so ended up where he is now. 
What May did in reinstating the MP,s concerned was disgraceful, desperate and also stupid. She pulled the vote at the last minute, so it was a waste of time doing it.
But this is what you get when you have leaders who don't actually believe in anything other than their own career.
The woman is worse than useless and I have never had a good word to say about her.
Corbyn on the other hand is vile bordering on evil.
If you really want to know about him, research his history. Although in true Stalinist fashion, he and his mates have done what they can to erase the bits they don't want people to see. Im sure its still out there somewhere though, so seek and ye shall find. 

[pscocoa]

Whichever way you vote - the government always gets in.

[Sir Tigger KC]

has shown no leadership on Brexit where he has largely been absent

As opposed to the "Brexit means Brexit" automaton? Not really much contrast to be found there...

I'm no corbynite, but the myopic way most on this forum view politics in the UK is risible. On the one hand derriding the "left wing mouthpiece" that allegedly is the BBC, while, with no sense if irony, quoting such illustrious tomes as the daily fail...

That's my point exactly Jimmy, May has been useless and a decent opposition leader should have wiped the floor with her and her remainer cabal like Dudd and Eyeor Hamster.

What have we had from the opposition?  A fanciful wish list that they laughingly call the 'Six Tests' and promises of a wonderful customs union in which the UK will act as an equal partner with the EU. 

Only a couple of days ago a Labour frontbencher was still insisting that they could rip up May's deal, start from scratch and deliver a good deal with the EU.  All before the 29th March! 

What a joke! 

[Viral_Jim]

It really is enough to disenfranchise an entire nation.

Which may or may not be the point.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I'm not sure we will now leave the EU.......at least not by 29th March 2019.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I can see a 'temporary' extension of article 50 still being in place in 2030 and beyond.

[aaronjb]

I can see a 'temporary' extension of article 50 still being in place in 2030 and beyond.

Don't be daft.

Once this cabinet is ready to commit suicide, they'll simply withdraw Art 50 and allow Corbyn to be elected.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I can see a 'temporary' extension of article 50 still being in place in 2030 and beyond.

Don't be daft.

Once this cabinet is ready to commit suicide, they'll simply withdraw Art 50 and allow Corbyn to be elected.

......but it was all meant to be so simple.

They need us more than we need them. We have the whip hand and they will do as we tell them.

I'm not quite sure what David Davis was doing for two years.

[Rods2]

I can see a 'temporary' extension of article 50 still being in place in 2030 and beyond.

Don't be daft.

Once this cabinet is ready to commit suicide, they'll simply withdraw Art 50 and allow Corbyn to be elected.

......but it was all meant to be so simple.

They need us more than we need them. We have the whip hand and they will do as we tell them.

I'm not quite sure what David Davis was doing for two years.

Being undermined, until he resigned, by that stupid person.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I can see a 'temporary' extension of article 50 still being in place in 2030 and beyond.

Don't be daft.

Once this cabinet is ready to commit suicide, they'll simply withdraw Art 50 and allow Corbyn to be elected.

......but it was all meant to be so simple.

They need us more than we need them. We have the whip hand and they will do as we tell them.

I'm not quite sure what David Davis was doing for two years.

Being undermined, until he resigned, by that stupid person.

Yes the establishment found him out.  He was actually trying to leave the EU!   

[Doctor Gollum]

He would fit in well at DHL... They just love staff that enjoy being micromanaged