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[2boxerdogs]

Came back from Sussex at the weekend noticed that the clutch was just starting to slip in 3rd gear under load, so now booked in at the dealership on Thursday for new clutch & dual mass flywheel, couldn't risk towing the caravan back so that's in temporary storage at Battle.

[Varche]

Did they give you an estimate?

[ronnyd]

KY at the ready? 

[dave the builder]

KY at the ready? 

and aftercare clicky  

Bad luck Mr Tilbo
did you not fancy getting the spanners out and DIYing the clutch 

[2boxerdogs]

KY at the ready? 

and aftercare clicky  

Bad luck Mr Tilbo
did you not fancy getting the spanners out and DIYing the clutch 

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No way beyond my capabilities,it's got to be done just got to bite the bullet as they say 😎

[2boxerdogs]

Did they give you an estimate?

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Spoke to a fellow caravnner about 4 years ago at Sandringham in Norfolk who had just had the clutch & flywheel replaced on his Terracan for £1300 , so I know what to expect roughly always keep  cash in a "slush fund" for things like this fortunately.

[Varche]

Sounds about right. They are a consumable item.

Had a think about my history of clutches. In my youth I used to change them myself . They were simple and cheaper in those days. Had the 4x4 done and that was 400 with the part 240 of that.

[2boxerdogs]

Sounds about right. They are a consumable item.

Had a think about my history of clutches. In my youth I used to change them myself . They were simple and cheaper in those days. Had the 4x4 done and that was 400 with the part 240 of that.

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Only the 2nd time in 48 years of driving that I'm having a clutch replaced, had about 35 vehicles in total so not bad !

[Bigron]

WAY back, I did mine on an Austin A30, aligning the friction plate with my special tool - a hammer handle!
Simple job, and it worked fine: happy days.....

Ron.

[terry paget]

Trouble is, cost of a garage clutch change far exceeds the value of the car. I scrapped Senators as their clutches failed. JamesV6CDX taught me to change Omega clutches, but now the parts alone cost more than the car's value.

[2boxerdogs]

Trouble is, cost of a garage clutch change far exceeds the value of the car. I scrapped Senators as their clutches failed. JamesV6CDX taught me to change Omega clutches, but now the parts alone cost more than the car's value

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Spent £1700 on it last year timing belt brakes + various steering parts belt next due in 2024. So will get this done and when I retire fully in 2022 will replace it with a Landcruiser. Has been a very reliable & useful vehicle has never failed to start first time & has coped with everything I've put it through. 😎

[Varche]

WAY back, I did mine on an Austin A30, aligning the friction plate with my special tool - a hammer handle!
Simple job, and it worked fine: happy days.....

Ron.

Those were the days. 

[Bigron]

Yes, especially as I was then of a size that I could actually get under the car!

Ron.

[2boxerdogs]

Yes, especially as I was then of a size that I could actually get under the car!

Ron.

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You & me both 😀😁😂

[Doctor Gollum]

If you can't fit under the Terracan, you must be portly... 

[Bigron]

DG, I was meaning more the A30 (not sure I know how large/tall a terracan is),  but you are right - there is more of me now than in yesteryear!

Ron.

[2boxerdogs]

If you can't fit under the Terracan, you must be portly... 

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In fact there is a bit less of me down from 18 stone to 15
but I can't be arsed to mess around under cars anymore.😉

[New POD]

why is clutch replacement like on a Cavalier with an F16.5 Gearbox.

I picked up a NOS Clutch for £15, off the Electronic Man in a Pub that is the Bay of E, and paid someone £20 to fit it, because it's a 20 minute job. Apparently.

[Nick W]

why is clutch replacement like on a Cavalier with an F16.5 Gearbox.

I picked up a NOS Clutch for £15, off the Electronic Man in a Pub that is the Bay of E, and paid someone £20 to fit it, because it's a 20 minute job. Apparently.

It's not really possible to do that on a RWD gearbox.
But it would make a lot more sense on current complex FWD installations

[Andy H]

why is clutch replacement like on a Cavalier with an F16.5 Gearbox.

I picked up a NOS Clutch for £15, off the Electronic Man in a Pub that is the Bay of E, and paid someone £20 to fit it, because it's a 20 minute job. Apparently.

It's not really possible to do that on a RWD gearbox.
But it would make a lot more sense on current complex FWD installations

My mk2 Astra was probably the same design.

Take the nearside front wheel off and remove a plug in the gearbox end cover, Undo the clutch pressure plate bolts through an opening between the engine and gearbox. Pull the drive shaft out of the end of the gearbox and lift the clutch out.

Assembly is the reverse of disassembly......

It took me 20 minutes to get the car on axle stands and remove the front wheel but it might have been a 20 minute job with access to a car lift.

[BazaJT]

£1300 is more than I've ever paid for a car let alone putting a clutch in one

[Marks DTM Calib]

You don't want to be man handling a TerribleCan box on a drive, they are very big and very heavy and worse still with the transfer box still attached.

[2boxerdogs]

You don't want to be man handling a TerribleCan box on a drive, they are very big and very heavy and worse still with the transfer box still attached.

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I wouldn't even attempt it , main dealership job I'm afraid they've always looked after it .

[2boxerdogs]

Well dropped the Terracan off at the dealership at 08.30 this morning hopefully get it back later today.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

£?.

[dave the builder]

£?.

££££ 

[2boxerdogs]

£?.

££££ 

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No contact yet I'm guessing around £1500 ☹️

[2boxerdogs]

Dealership phoned at 16.50 won't be ready till tomorrow , I'm out all day tomorrow so will hopefully collect it Saturday morning.😉

[dave the builder]

£16.50 , that's a bit steep 

 all joking aside , hope it's not too painful 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

£?.

£15

££££ 

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No contact yet I'm guessing around £1500 ☹️

£1500.

A mere bagatelle for a man of your means.

[2boxerdogs]

£16.50 , that's a bit steep 

 all joking aside , hope it's not too painful 

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Cheers I'm all prepared for it , have stocked up from the local foodbanks 😎

[2boxerdogs]

£?.

£15

££££ 

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No contact yet I'm guessing around £1500 ☹️

£1500.

A mere bagatelle for a man of your means.

 

Us Lincolnshire fellas aren't short of a few bob Opti !

[Sir Tigger KC]

Dealership phoned at 16.50 won't be ready till tomorrow , I'm out all day tomorrow so will hopefully collect it Saturday morning.😉

Oh dear, this sort of thing always makes me nervous.... 

Hope you have a big tub of vaseline at the ready. 

[aaronjb]

Oh dear, this sort of thing always makes me nervous.... 

Me too - triggers my biggest fear of dealers, the "They broke something and don't want to tell me" fear.

[2boxerdogs]

Picked the 4x4 up this morning the delay was because the replacement took 13 hours in total not 3 as costed by Hyundai , fortunately I had agreed to the original quote before work commenced 😉
Labour 275.07
Parts 1114.28
VAT 277.87 Total 1667.22
I spoke with the workshop foreman this morning, used to be a neighbour till we moved & he told me the sheer weight of the unit caused the biggest problems but if they get another one in the price would be a lot different !
So back to Sussex tomorrow to collect the caravan.

[Doctor Gollum]

Not known for their reasonable parts priced

[2boxerdogs]

Not known for their reasonable parts priced

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No they are expensive when required but want to keep it going for at least another 2 years possibly 3 , had new belt etc last year & all new tyres discs & brakes .

[STEMO]

Not known for their reasonable parts priced

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No they are expensive when required but want to keep it going for at least another 2 years possibly 3 , had new belt etc last year & all new tyres discs & brakes .

If it suits your needs and looks ok (which I know yours does) why not keep it till it doesn't suit your needs and it doesn't look ok?

[2boxerdogs]

Not known for their reasonable parts priced

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No they are expensive when required but want to keep it going for at least another 2 years possibly 3 , had new belt etc last year & all new tyres discs & brakes .

If it suits your needs and looks ok (which I know yours does) why not keep it till it doesn't suit your needs and it doesn't look ok?

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Exactly right Stemo it's only done just over 80,000 miles should be good for at least another 150,000 I will probably cover only around 30,000 if I keep it another 3 years, so financially to keep it up to scratch makes sense.

[TheBoy]

Not known for their reasonable parts priced

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No they are expensive when required but want to keep it going for at least another 2 years possibly 3 , had new belt etc last year & all new tyres discs & brakes .

If it suits your needs and looks ok (which I know yours does) why not keep it till it doesn't suit your needs and it doesn't look ok?

Exactly .

Replace because its expensive/unreliable, because its got too tatty, or because you just fancy something different

Its personal choice.

[terry paget]

Picked the 4x4 up this morning the delay was because the replacement took 13 hours in total not 3 as costed by Hyundai , fortunately I had agreed to the original quote before work commenced 😉
Labour 275.07
Parts 1114.28
VAT 277.87 Total 1667.22
I spoke with the workshop foreman this morning, used to be a neighbour till we moved & he told me the sheer weight of the unit caused the biggest problems but if they get another one in the price would be a lot different !
So back to Sussex tomorrow to collect the caravan.

I'm surprised labour is so cheap and the parts so expensive.

[2boxerdogs]

Picked the 4x4 up this morning the delay was because the replacement took 13 hours in total not 3 as costed by Hyundai , fortunately I had agreed to the original quote before work commenced 😉
Labour 275.07
Parts 1114.28
VAT 277.87 Total 1667.22
I spoke with the workshop foreman this morning, used to be a neighbour till we moved & he told me the sheer weight of the unit caused the biggest problems but if they get another one in the price would be a lot different !
So back to Sussex tomorrow to collect the caravan.

I'm surprised labour is so cheap and the parts so expensive.
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Labour = 91.69 per hour , fortunately online charged me for 3 not the whole 13 😀

[ronnyd]

Picked the 4x4 up this morning the delay was because the replacement took 13 hours in total not 3 as costed by Hyundai , fortunately I had agreed to the original quote before work commenced 😉
Labour 275.07
Parts 1114.28
VAT 277.87 Total 1667.22
I spoke with the workshop foreman this morning, used to be a neighbour till we moved & he told me the sheer weight of the unit caused the biggest problems but if they get another one in the price would be a lot different !
So back to Sussex tomorrow to collect the caravan.

I'm surprised labour is so cheap and the parts so expensive.

Think Tilbo eluded to that in reply 34 Terry.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Picked the 4x4 up this morning the delay was because the replacement took 13 hours in total not 3 as costed by Hyundai , fortunately I had agreed to the original quote before work commenced 😉
Labour 275.07
Parts 1114.28
VAT 277.87 Total 1667.22
I spoke with the workshop foreman this morning, used to be a neighbour till we moved & he told me the sheer weight of the unit caused the biggest problems but if they get another one in the price would be a lot different !
So back to Sussex tomorrow to collect the caravan.

I'm surprised labour is so cheap and the parts so expensive.

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Labour = 91.69 per hour , fortunately online charged me for 3 not the whole 13 😀

What were they playing at, its not that hard to change with a ramp, there just big and heavy boxes (yet still rather weak)

I guess at the price a new flywheel was fitted to ? 

[terry paget]

Picked the 4x4 up this morning the delay was because the replacement took 13 hours in total not 3 as costed by Hyundai , fortunately I had agreed to the original quote before work commenced 😉
Labour 275.07
Parts 1114.28
VAT 277.87 Total 1667.22
I spoke with the workshop foreman this morning, used to be a neighbour till we moved & he told me the sheer weight of the unit caused the biggest problems but if they get another one in the price would be a lot different !
So back to Sussex tomorrow to collect the caravan.

I'm surprised labour is so cheap and the parts so expensive.

Think Tilbo eluded to that in reply 34 Terry.

So he did.

[terry paget]

Picked the 4x4 up this morning the delay was because the replacement took 13 hours in total not 3 as costed by Hyundai , fortunately I had agreed to the original quote before work commenced 😉
Labour 275.07
Parts 1114.28
VAT 277.87 Total 1667.22
I spoke with the workshop foreman this morning, used to be a neighbour till we moved & he told me the sheer weight of the unit caused the biggest problems but if they get another one in the price would be a lot different !
So back to Sussex tomorrow to collect the caravan.

Wise of Tilbo to get a quotation before the work commenced. I imagine the Hyundai labour figure is based on the lads doing the job having done a few before and knowing what they were doing.

 James CDX's clutch change description says it can be done in four hours without help, impressive.
The first one I did took longer than that, things kept going wrong; gearbox not coming off as expected, not going back on easily, hydraulic hose reconnection, gear linkage reassembly, etc.

 In the 1970s a mobile mechanic, Martin Semmler, changed the clutch on my Peugeot 505GTI family estate, in my drive, in a morning, for about £100, seemed cheap enough.

[Sir Tigger KC]

 In the 1970s a mobile mechanic, Martin Semmler, changed the clutch on my Peugeot 505GTI family estate, in my drive, in a morning, for about £100, seemed cheap enough.

Those old Peugeots were great, and I believe are still a common sight on the roads of Francophone Africa. 

[2boxerdogs]

Picked the 4x4 up this morning the delay was because the replacement took 13 hours in total not 3 as costed by Hyundai , fortunately I had agreed to the original quote before work commenced 😉
Labour 275.07
Parts 1114.28
VAT 277.87 Total 1667.22
I spoke with the workshop foreman this morning, used to be a neighbour till we moved & he told me the sheer weight of the unit caused the biggest problems but if they get another one in the price would be a lot different !
So back to Sussex tomorrow to collect the caravan.

I'm surprised labour is so cheap and the parts so expensive.

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Labour = 91.69 per hour , fortunately online charged me for 3 not the whole 13 😀

What were they playing at, its not that hard to change with a ramp, there just big and heavy boxes (yet still rather weak)

I guess at the price a new flywheel was fitted to ? 

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Yes dual mass flywheel also fitted.