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Title: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 13 March 2019, 12:55:41
I imagine that changing the head gasket on an Astra 1.8 petrol is similar to the job an Omega 2.2. Am I right?
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 13 March 2019, 13:14:15
May be a bit more awkward assuming its transverse orientation ? Fundamentally the same though.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: dave the builder on 13 March 2019, 14:30:33
what year / model of astra  :-\
have you confirmed the headgasket has gone for sure ?
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 13 March 2019, 17:22:19
what year / model of astra  :-\
have you confirmed the headgasket has gone for sure ?
No. Car is on e-bay in Somerset, decent MOT, good tyres, and cheap so far. I have changed a head gasket on a 2.2, and my Omegas are dying.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-Vauxhall-Astra-1-8-91-000-8-months-MOT-Spares-or-repair/223445598488?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: dave the builder on 13 March 2019, 18:08:52
pretty much the same process as a 2.2 ,easy enough to do
headgaskets go for a reason though  ::)
if local, worth looking BEFORE you commit ,check the rest of the car over
looks like a dent on the sill  :-\ bash on the front needs more investigation .
good spec being a design edition  :y
obviously will need a full gasket set,head bolts,cambelt kit,waterpump,oil,filters and antifreeze  etc etc (so £250+ in parts to budget for + skim head )
1.8s are not so good on fuel
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 13 March 2019, 19:21:51
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Astra-1-8-SRI-2007/153409917276?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
This one is even nearer, about 8 miles away. Similar car, a 2007 1.8. Less MOT, and a runner. Any coments?
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: dave the builder on 13 March 2019, 19:48:45
Again best to go look ,inspect it all , simple stuff like clean antifreeze rather than rusty water  :P check the oil,filler cap,tyres,exhaust,condition of underneath ,do a pedal test and see what stored codes etc (or take a code reader, a genuine seller should not have an issue with that)
MOT history......
Oil leak, but not excessive (8.4.1 (a) (i))

could be anything ,a simple seal to the rear crankshaft mail seal (gearbox out job)

Nearside Front Upper Anti-roll bar ball joint has slight play (5.3.4 (a) (i))
£15 for drop links
Nearside Front Brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii))
Offside Front Brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii))

so new discs and pads required ,and points to the "family member mechanic"  doing the bare minimum to get an MOT  :-\

Nearside Rear Suspension arm pin or bush worn but not resulting in excessive movement (5.3.4 (a) (i))
Offside Rear Suspension arm pin or bush worn but not resulting in excessive movement (5.3.4 (a) (i))

from experience, the shocks are probably shot rather than the axle bushings

so again probably going to cost £200+ in parts and it has a short mot

if you like spannering and want something to tinker with ,fair enough

£1000 should see you with an astra with 12 months mot
(not that an mot is any guarantee  of the cars condition ,seen some dogs with 12 months mot  ::))

Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: dave the builder on 13 March 2019, 20:57:06
£700 buy it now with 12 months mot clicky  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Astra/264202793578?hash=item3d83b6b26a:g:X7QAAOSwBG9car1B)
mot history has no nasty pointers
about as close to you as the other one  :-\
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: henryd on 13 March 2019, 21:35:05
£700 buy it now with 12 months mot clicky  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Astra/264202793578?hash=item3d83b6b26a:g:X7QAAOSwBG9car1B)
mot history has no nasty pointers
about as close to you as the other one  :-\

That looks ok tbh,a bit of a barter could get that cheaper :y
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 13 March 2019, 21:44:28
Again best to go look ,inspect it all , simple stuff like clean antifreeze rather than rusty water  :P check the oil,filler cap,tyres,exhaust,condition of underneath ,do a pedal test and see what stored codes etc (or take a code reader, a genuine seller should not have an issue with that)
MOT history......
Oil leak, but not excessive (8.4.1 (a) (i))

could be anything ,a simple seal to the rear crankshaft mail seal (gearbox out job)

Nearside Front Upper Anti-roll bar ball joint has slight play (5.3.4 (a) (i))
£15 for drop links
Nearside Front Brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii))
Offside Front Brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii))

so new discs and pads required ,and points to the "family member mechanic"  doing the bare minimum to get an MOT  :-\

Nearside Rear Suspension arm pin or bush worn but not resulting in excessive movement (5.3.4 (a) (i))
Offside Rear Suspension arm pin or bush worn but not resulting in excessive movement (5.3.4 (a) (i))

from experience, the shocks are probably shot rather than the axle bushings

so again probably going to cost £200+ in parts and it has a short mot

if you like spannering and want something to tinker with ,fair enough

£1000 should see you with an astra with 12 months mot
(not that an mot is any guarantee  of the cars condition ,seen some dogs with 12 months mot  ::))
Thanks, good advice. I did enquire of the vendor, it has not had a cam belt change, which confirms your view of the family mechanic. Having said that, most Omegas I have bought were well beyond thei cam belt mileages. Once cars get out of warranty they only get oil a d filter change and garages call it a full service. As you say, I should visit these cars before bidding for them.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: dave the builder on 13 March 2019, 21:47:48
£495 clicky and a trip to Bournemouth  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-VAUXHALL-ASTRA-LIFE-1-4-5-DOOR-11-MONTHS-MOT-P-EX-TO-CLEAR-VERY-CLEAN-84K/233141378445?hash=item36484f1d8d:g:0hoAAOSw8uFcbsdJ) bucket and spade,day at the beach   :P

factor in scrap value @ £150 , so £349 divided by 11 months =£32 a month  ;D
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2019, 21:49:08
Those have a 100k interval, so belt may not actually be due ::)
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: dave the builder on 13 March 2019, 21:54:32
Those have a 100k interval, so belt may not actually be due ::)
also due at 10 years though
just purchased a gates kit including tensioner ,roller and water pump delivered £85

I would not trust being told the belt had been done anyway , many car dealers would get their garage to replace JUST the belt , not pump or rollers

simple job, 2 hours at most ,the skin will grow back on your knuckles  :y
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 14 March 2019, 22:26:15
£700 buy it now with 12 months mot clicky  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Astra/264202793578?hash=item3d83b6b26a:g:X7QAAOSwBG9car1B)
mot history has no nasty pointers
about as close to you as the other one  :-\
Thanks for that, looks attractive. When my second Astra seized during MOT I struggled to find anything cheap and useable. The Frome car ha a short MOT with advisories, while the Wedmore car will be cheap 'cos it needs a head gasket replacing. Most e-bay Astras are from traders and jolly expensive to a man accustomed to buying Omegas under £500. Does the Astra 1.8 use heater bypass valves?
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: dave the builder on 15 March 2019, 00:35:15
£700 buy it now with 12 months mot clicky  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Astra/264202793578?hash=item3d83b6b26a:g:X7QAAOSwBG9car1B)
mot history has no nasty pointers
about as close to you as the other one  :-\
........ Does the Astra 1.8 use heater bypass valves?
i doubt they have HBV, only 1.8 vauxhalls i have had have been vectra and cavalier .i've not had a astra 1.8
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Enceladus on 15 March 2019, 14:53:17
The Frome car ha a short MOT with advisories, while the Wedmore car will be cheap 'cos it needs a head gasket replacing. Most e-bay Astras are from traders and jolly expensive to a man accustomed to buying Omegas under £500. Does the Astra 1.8 use heater bypass valves?
You have to ask yourself if it's just a head gasket why hasn't the vendor had it repaired. You need to factor in the cost of a replacement head from somewhere. Vauxhall will say that 16 valve heads can't be skimmed, only the older 8 valves. Trouble is that there isn't any spare metal before you are into the valve seats, so if the head is distorted then there probably isn't enough thickness available to get it flat again.

If it's just the gasket burnt out somewhere but the head is still flat, hasn't been let overheat, you can maybe clean off any crud and fit a new gasket. But you have no way to know until you get the head off and check it.

The description is spares or repair, that implies that it's good for spares only. And in that respect the current bid of £206 is about the limit of it's value, to someone who lives local and can trailer or tow it away and wants it as a donor for parts other than the engine.

You might do better searching on Gumtree.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Nick W on 16 March 2019, 15:34:24
Terry, given how easily you've managed to acquire Astras with expensive problems, then buying one with a suspected head gasket issue is daft. It would only be worth considering if you were going to be given the car and that you knew the rest of its history. Even then, due to the time and cost in fixing the problem you know about, I would suggest that you pass on it.


Your method for buying cheap snotters is all wrong: don't search for a specific model but only look at cheap cars that are local to you, meet your realistic requirements and have a long MOT. Be very critical of durability, and buy what comes up that is on the road and likely to stay that way for the length of the MOT without anything done to it. This will give you the opportunity to decide if it's worth spending money to improve it. For instance the last two times I walked to bell practices, I passed a tidy '52 Fiesta for £550 - petrol, manual, five doors, nice spec(it was a Ghia), good condition, smart metallic blue, 4 good tyres, 6months MOT. It was parked on the main road, and was gone in two days. That's the sort of thing you should be looking for.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 March 2019, 17:59:15
This ^^^

Exactly how I have brought my last four cars... OK, I haven't made money on them, and the A Class clutch slave failing a fortnight after buying it was, um, unfortunate  ::)

But all said and done purchasing them has cost me all of £1,400. Which for four working, MoTd (6 month+) cars, isn't that bad a deal :y

Spending £400 on a 1-3 month ticketed car is money well spent.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 16 March 2019, 21:49:03
Terry, given how easily you've managed to acquire Astras with expensive problems, then buying one with a suspected head gasket issue is daft. It would only be worth considering if you were going to be given the car and that you knew the rest of its history. Even then, due to the time and cost in fixing the problem you know about, I would suggest that you pass on it.


Your method for buying cheap snotters is all wrong: don't search for a specific model but only look at cheap cars that are local to you, meet your realistic requirements and have a long MOT. Be very critical of durability, and buy what comes up that is on the road and likely to stay that way for the length of the MOT without anything done to it. This will give you the opportunity to decide if it's worth spending money to improve it. For instance the last two times I walked to bell practices, I passed a tidy '52 Fiesta for £550 - petrol, manual, five doors, nice spec(it was a Ghia), good condition, smart metallic blue, 4 good tyres, 6months MOT. It was parked on the main road, and was gone in two days. That's the sort of thing you should be looking for.
My wife said, 'What good advice'.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: henryd on 17 March 2019, 11:14:00
Nick's advice is good,no point in buying work,buying something that's up and running much better,it only take s a few weeks to know if it's something worth persevering with :y
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 17 March 2019, 21:08:50
Car eventually sold for £265, from starting bid of £160. I did not go to inspect, or bid.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: dave the builder on 18 March 2019, 07:35:04
Car eventually sold for £265, from starting bid of £160. I did not go to inspect, or bid.
the £700 one with 12 months MOT did not sell yet  :-\ very odd
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 18 March 2019, 08:54:13
£700 buy it now with 12 months mot clicky  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Astra/264202793578?hash=item3d83b6b26a:g:X7QAAOSwBG9car1B)
mot history has no nasty pointers
about as close to you as the other one  :-\

That looks ok tbh,a bit of a barter could get that cheaper :y
Interesting it's still there, as you say.

I have lent my 08 Astra to my widowed sister, aged 78. She lives 5 miles away, in Peasedown St. John. She found her Mokka too big, and had several minor parking bumps, so determined to buy a smaller car. She bought a Corsa 2 weeks ago, and soon lost control of it entering a car park, writing it off, together with 4 other cars.

 Fortunately there were no injuries, police attended but showed little interest, her insurer promptly paid out what she had just paid for it, now she is pondering what to do next.She finds life without a car difficult, hence my lending her my the Astra. The cars she crashed were both automatics. I hope she finds my manual Astra more controllable! I might yet need that Bristol car.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: dave the builder on 18 March 2019, 09:04:32
To be honest Terry, it sounds like your sister would be better off hanging up the car keys and getting lifts or a taxi (surprisingly cheap transport if used wisely, I have one sometimes and i'm a tight git  ;D)
I appreciate buses are thin on the ground and a PITA
she can probably get help with tasks like shopping etc from local authority  :-\
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Nick W on 18 March 2019, 09:16:33
Your sister's crash is very common, and the worst ones are always automatics. Manual cars will either stall when they've hit something, or the low gear ratio will limit the speed. Autos stay running, which allows the uncoordinated and now terrified driver to continue the crash elsewhere. Or go roaring across the car park/lawn/main road to a much worse impact.





Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Andy B on 18 March 2019, 10:31:01
The last Astra G I had was bought off eBay unseen & described as a none runner. I had the same model that was a runner but an insurance write off. The eBay car was A framed home had the fuel pump swapped over & was a runner within a few hours. It the end it turned  out to be a belting little car that cost me a few hundred quid.  :y
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Nick W on 18 March 2019, 11:06:44
16,000 miles in 6 months in a £25 Cortina that I sold for a £5 profit. The £125 Capri that replaced it is the only car I should never have sold.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 March 2019, 11:50:33
To be honest Terry, it sounds like your sister would be better off hanging up the car keys and getting lifts or a taxi (surprisingly cheap transport if used wisely, I have one sometimes and i'm a tight git  ;D)
I appreciate buses are thin on the ground and a PITA
she can probably get help with tasks like shopping etc from local authority  :-\
This was the reality check that my Nan needed. Twice running off the road, fortunately without incident. This was also after having her license returned following a revocation due to subsequently repaired cataracts.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: New POD on 18 March 2019, 20:49:24
Terry, given how easily you've managed to acquire Astras with expensive problems, then buying one with a suspected head gasket issue is daft. It would only be worth considering if you were going to be given the car and that you knew the rest of its history. Even then, due to the time and cost in fixing the problem you know about, I would suggest that you pass on it.


Your method for buying cheap snotters is all wrong: don't search for a specific model but only look at cheap cars that are local to you, meet your realistic requirements and have a long MOT. Be very critical of durability, and buy what comes up that is on the road and likely to stay that way for the length of the MOT without anything done to it. This will give you the opportunity to decide if it's worth spending money to improve it. For instance the last two times I walked to bell practices, I passed a tidy '52 Fiesta for £550 - petrol, manual, five doors, nice spec(it was a Ghia), good condition, smart metallic blue, 4 good tyres, 6months MOT. It was parked on the main road, and was gone in two days. That's the sort of thing you should be looking for.

My last 2 purchases have proved reasonably successful.  (previous ones less so)

First :about 3.5 years ago I was in a rented room in Derby during the week, having destroyed the engine on a Honda Accord 2.2 CDTi.  I looked on Gumtree and a 54 plate astra 1.6 16V sport had JUST come on the market about 1 mile from me.  It had 35K on the clock, and I could not find any reason not to buy it.  £900. 
Then: a Year later I came to the conclusion that the astra was TOO uncomfortable on 16 inch alloys, rock hard seats, and rock hard suspension.  So I decided i needed any car with a 3 litre engine, auto box and cruise control.  I saw my 3.2 MV6 on www.autoshite.com  and got someone to drive me from Derby to Sunderland (on his way home from work - it was halfway) I drove it back to Derby, then home to liverpool, then the next day to Cardiff for the Half Marathon, and then back to Liverpool and back to Derby.  I did 1000 miles in the first week.
I put the astra back on Gumtree with now 55K on the clock and sold it for £850 the same day I advertised it. 
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 18 March 2019, 22:33:37
I see that Bristol Astra, 12 months MOT, is now reduced to £650.
I presumed my sister could drive my Astra on her exisiting policy, third party only, as 'any other car not owned by you, and insured to be on the road'. She was talking to her insurer this morning, and was told this was not the case, and she should arrange to become a named driver on the owner's policy. I tried to make her a named driver, answered lots of questions, and was given a quotation of £1368.20. I rang my sister, she said she would think about it.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 March 2019, 04:43:08
If she needed an excuse to stop driving, if only for the safety of others, this could well be it.

If she had killed someone whilst uninsured then you would be on the hook for knowingly facilitating her actions.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 19 March 2019, 07:59:48
If she needed an excuse to stop driving, if only for the safety of others, this could well be it.
[/highlight]If she had killed someone whilst uninsured then you would be on the hook for knowingly facilitating her actions.
How so? Her car insurance policy clearly states that she has cover to drive any other car with the owner's permission, not owned by her and not under a hire purchase agreement to her, so long as it is insured by the owner for use on the road, third party risks only. Now it looks like that policy expires on demise of insured vehicle. I have looked at my various car insurance policies, that is not how they read. When I offered her the use of my car I specifically asked whether her policy would cover her. Please enlighten.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: TheBoy on 19 March 2019, 09:48:34
Her existing policy will be finished at the point the insured car being written off. So she now needs to insure something else in order to have cover in that way, or be added as named driver (usually expensive if NOT at same address).

In addition, be wary of adding her as named driver on YOUR policy, as another accident will severely impact YOUR own premiums, as its YOUR policy that gets claimed on. Protected NCD or otherwise.

I think it would be wise for her to get an assessment of some kind, maybe from her doctor, that she is still OK to drive.  A professional opinion is worth more than any of us can suggest without knowing all the details.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 March 2019, 09:54:44
Her existing policy will be finished at the point the insured car being written off. So she now needs to insure something else in order to have cover in that way, or be added as named driver (usually expensive if NOT at same address).

In addition, be wary of adding her as named driver on YOUR policy, as another accident will severely impact YOUR own premiums, as its YOUR policy that gets claimed on. Protected NCD or otherwise.

I think it would be wise for her to get an assessment of some kind, maybe from her doctor, that she is still OK to drive.  A professional opinion is worth more than any of us can suggest without knowing all the details.

Agreed. Or a session with a driving instructor to give her some constructive advice. If she's having this sort of incident it's not reasonable to carry on regardless, IMHO. Someone could lose their life next time.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 March 2019, 09:57:33
Having given consent by virtue of giving her your keys.

But you miss the point...

Previous car was sold with battle scars. The car that replaced it was written off along with others during a loss of control in a confined space. Next time could be another significant escalation.

I know it is a difficult subject to breach, and perhaps her GP is best placed to do so.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 19 March 2019, 11:35:26
Her existing policy will be finished at the point the insured car being written off. So she now needs to insure something else in order to have cover in that way, or be added as named driver (usually expensive if NOT at same address).

In addition, be wary of adding her as named driver on YOUR policy, as another accident will severely impact YOUR own premiums, as its YOUR policy that gets claimed on. Protected NCD or otherwise.

I think it would be wise for her to get an assessment of some kind, maybe from her doctor, that she is still OK to drive.  A professional opinion is worth more than any of us can suggest without knowing all the details.
Neither Kathleen or I understood that the contract ends when the car insured is written off. I do not see it on the certificate, it could be somewhere deep in the contract small print. Her policy expires in April and they have invited renewal, further confusing us.

30 years ago my father ran 2 cars in succession into his gatepost, and I managed to persuade him to stop driving before he killed somebody. Kathleen is younger than me. She did consult her GP, who assured her she was still fit to drive. I have advised her get a manual gearbox car next time. She has 3 daughters, perhaps they will persuade her. My wife has stopped driving at 72 due to failing eyesight.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 March 2019, 12:17:31
Age has no bearing on fitness Mum surrendered hers at 62 as the direct result of a heart issue which caused her to temporarily black out without warning.

Having fortunately not had an episode for a handful of years, she could, in theory resume driving, but she won't in case the issue returns and the first anyone knows about it is a group of people getting mown down.

If she is struggling with it, then your sister has both a moral and legal obligation to surrender her license.

At the very least she needs to submit to some form of unbiased assessment.

Forcing her into a more complicated car won't improve her coordination or spatial awareness.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 19 March 2019, 15:31:24
Today I rang sister. 'Not to worry', says she, 'all sorted now'. She took a bus to Radstock, rang Dave Fowler, car salesman, who picked her up in his car. She has agreed to buy an ex-Motability 3 year old manual Corsa, after her coach holiday in Chester next week. 'I expect your insurance will go up now', said I, ever cheerful', 'No', said she, 'I have a protected no claims bonus, so it won't go up at all'.

She is passionate Baptist Christian, and everything turns out all right for her, drives me mad. 2 years ago she underwent a 9 hour lumbar fusion operation, to correct an occasional leg pain, and got away with it, operation great success. When I learn the colour I will let you know to give it wide bearth if ever in this neck of the woods.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Entwood on 19 March 2019, 15:53:30
Today I rang sister. 'Not to worry', says she, 'all sorted now'. She took a bus to Radstock, rang Dave Fowler, car salesman, who picked her up in his car. She has agreed to buy an ex-Motability 3 year old manual Corsa, after her coach holiday in Chester next week. 'I expect your insurance will go up now', said I, ever cheerful', 'No', said she, 'I have a protected no claims bonus, so it won't go up at all'.

She is passionate Baptist Christian, and everything turns out all right for her, drives me mad. 2 years ago she underwent a 9 hour lumbar fusion operation, to correct an occasional leg pain, and got away with it, operation great success. When I learn the colour I will let you know to give it wide bearth if ever in this neck of the woods.

I'm afraid she is in for a VERY rude awakening .... she might well have a protected no claim bonus... that will reduce her premium by a fixed percentage .... the no claim bonus ... it will have no bearing on the actual policy cost.

As an example ... if her protected no claim bonus is 50%, and her previous policy was £200, she recieved a 50% discount and so paid £100

Having had two accidents in short succession, one causing a write off, her basic premium will rise .. lets say it doubles to £400 (could well be much more given age and recent events) .. with the 50% discount (fixed) she will have to pay £200 .. so her costs will double.

:(
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 March 2019, 18:51:35
Baptist or not, I wager that this car will be pranged before Ascension Day...
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: dave the builder on 19 March 2019, 20:51:02
As her brother, how will you feel if the next prang is a bus stop full of school children  ???
Being a  Christian, God might forgive her, I doubt the parents would .

get the family together and try and persuade her to stop driving .

The money saved on hiked insurance, replacing the smashed car, car tax, fuel ,repair costs etc would pay for a lot of taxi rides
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 19 March 2019, 22:09:14
As her brother, how will you feel if the next prang is a bus stop full of school children  ???
Being a  Christian, God might forgive her, I doubt the parents would .

get the family together and try and persuade her to stop driving .

The money saved on hiked insurance, replacing the smashed car, car tax, fuel ,repair costs etc would pay for a lot of taxi rides
I hear what you say, Dave.
Kathleen did approach her GP, who assured her she was fit to drive. She has 3 daughters, one a GP married to a company director, one a NHS executive married to a company director, and the third a teacher in a private school. The last lives half a mile from my sister. Kathleen does not drive far, I do 10000 miles a year in 20 year old cars which I maintain myself. I am full of good advice, but no-one takes it. I am not the man to organise a kangaroo court. If anyone is, it is Anthony, husband of the teacher living half a mile away; he is pompous enough.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: ronnyd on 19 March 2019, 22:21:11
Try not to worry about something you can,t do anything about, let others do it. Just concentrate on what you can control. Works for me. :y
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 20 March 2019, 18:04:28
£700 buy it now with 12 months mot clicky  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Astra/264202793578?hash=item3d83b6b26a:g:X7QAAOSwBG9car1B)
mot history has no nasty pointers
about as close to you as the other one  :-\
I could not find that car on e-bay, don't know why. It has ended now, bother. I say this bcause my best Omega has failed its MOT test substantially - failed emissions on lambda, exhaust leak RH section (this may be cause of lambda problem),
 Suspension component mounting prescribed area excessively corroded significantly reducing structural strength Offside Rear (inner wheel arch)
                                                   ditto                                                                                       Nearside
This car may be beyond economical repair, so if you see any other Astras like the above, please advise.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: dave the builder on 20 March 2019, 21:21:58
fat corsa  ;D or Meriva ,like you wanted to buy off a relative Clicky Bristol,17 miles 50k  MOT feb 20 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201903075664729?onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&advertising-location=at_cars&maximum-mileage=100000&postcode=ba32le&radius=25&price-to=1000&make=VAUXHALL&sort=sponsored&page=1)

or you could just sort the welding etc on the omega , what price did the garage want to do ALL the work and give you an MOT ? if £500 or less ,why not just get the work done if your happy with the omega.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: dave the builder on 20 March 2019, 21:39:02
Nice looking vectra (tractor juice edition) life base spec  ave 50MPG  :y Bristol 112k retail (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201903125816242?maximum-mileage=125000&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=25&price-to=1000&postcode=ba32le&sort=sponsored&make=VAUXHALL&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)

Signum DESIGN (nice spec ) clicky Bristol only 85k ,new mot  (https://www.gumtree.com/p/vauxhall/2004-vauxhall-signum-design-5-door-new-mot-service-history-half-leather-astra-/1333926674) some advisories though on MOT and a dent on wing

plenty of sub £1000 vauxhalls about
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 21 March 2019, 16:24:11
Nice looking vectra (tractor juice edition) life base spec  ave 50MPG  :y Bristol 112k retail (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201903125816242?maximum-mileage=125000&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=25&price-to=1000&postcode=ba32le&sort=sponsored&make=VAUXHALL&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)

Signum DESIGN (nice spec ) clicky Bristol only 85k ,new mot  (https://www.gumtree.com/p/vauxhall/2004-vauxhall-signum-design-5-door-new-mot-service-history-half-leather-astra-/1333926674) some advisories though on MOT and a dent on wing

plenty of sub £1000 vauxhalls about
Thanks for the cars, Dave. Keep them coming! Wife says 2004 is a bit old, but the 2004 Astra I bought was not rusty, just neglected with a sump full of sludge.
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 March 2019, 16:42:59
You either by older/higher mileage cars for chips or you buy a nearly new car that needs next to no work. A pre registered Insignia is sub £14k and will last longer than all the 16 dogs you'll buy for the same money.

If you can afford to, then at least buy summat half decent and get the kids to buy their own transport. It will do you all the world of good.  ;)
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 21 March 2019, 21:49:43
You either by older/higher mileage cars for chips or you buy a nearly new car that needs next to no work. A pre registered Insignia is sub £14k and will last longer than all the 16 dogs you'll buy for the same money.

If you can afford to, then at least buy summat half decent and get the kids to buy their own transport. It will do you all the world of good.  ;)
I suspect you're right about buying a decent car, my wife certainly thinks so. Where would I buy a pre-registered Insignia for £14K? My sister, by he way, is buying an ex-Mobility Corsa 3 years old for £11K.
Only Insignia I ever drove was a hire car that brought our Canadian cousins here. I couldn't find the handbrake and had to enquire where it was. I think it turned out to be electric. Was it an Insignia you brought to the Omega meeting where we met?
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 March 2019, 22:17:30
It was, possibly the 4x4 estate...

Anyway, the example I suggested is at Picador Vauxhall Lyndhurst. It's on their website and having walked past it at the weekend it had £14,995 splattered across the side of it as a '68 pre registered offer...

https://www.picadorplc.co.uk/vauxhall/offers/pre-reg/insignia/insignia-offer

If you don't need a big car, you can get a brand new Viva for £7,995 :y
Title: Re: Head gasket replacement on an Astra 1.8
Post by: terry paget on 23 March 2019, 09:55:17
I returned to Culham yesterday, to play golf and table tennis with old chums, after a 6 month absence due to ill health. I was cheered talking to Malcolm Kear, whose Jaguar had failed MOT due to rust in cills. Car cost him £3k a year ago, and the repair cost him £650.