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[TheBoy]

The OOF logo is copyright.  Using it without express written permission from one of the site owners (any Administrator) is a breach of copyright.

[Sam Burton]

Like I said this wasn't out of spite to have the new clothing made I wanted a hoodie for work purposes and no copyright was said in previous discussion so I'm sorry if I've upset anyone but it's done now

[SteveAvfc.]

Personally i don't see a problem with a member getting clothing done at there own expense. As we all realize for someone ie a administrator to lay out the money and have stock lying around in the hope it sells is just not feasible. I think Sam may have been full of good intentions when getting his clothes printed with the Omega Owners Logo, was wanting to show his love for the car and the forum but maybe he was a little ignorant of the fact that he may have needed permission. Just my opinion.   

[dbug]

The Forum Guidlines state the follwing . . .

Copyright
By posting, you agree that the copyright for that post belongs to OOF.

All information, including text, logos and pictures is the copyright of OOF.

Posts and pictures must not be published elsewhere, without permission from OOF Admin Team.

You are free to publish links back to OOF pages starting with http://www.omegaowners.com - directly linking to our pictures is expressly forbidden.

Mr Burton should really have read these!!

[flyer 0712]

Yep mr burton should have read the rules.....but havent we all made mistakes in our lives believing them to be good with all the best intentions...i  know i have....surely we arent all perfect are we  ..

[MrMoffat]

Personally i don't see a problem with a member getting clothing done at there own expense. As we all realize for someone ie a administrator to lay out the money and have stock lying around in the hope it sells is just not feasible. I think Sam may have been full of good intentions when getting his clothes printed with the Omega Owners Logo, was wanting to show his love for the car and the forum but maybe he was a little ignorant of the fact that he may have needed permission. Just my opinion.   

The 75 & ZT owners club use Salto UK Ltd with a previously agreed club motif on Club clothing and members order directly from that company, which leaves the club free from any hassle of ordering stock and upfront costs, I believe a small commission is payed to the Club from any order made by members. 

[tunnie]

If I'm honest, the original thread read like a for sale advert to me

[dbug]

If I'm honest, the original thread read like a for sale advert to me

 

[Sam Burton]

I can assure you Tunnie it wasn't a promotional stunt to flog some clothing i just was really pleased on the quality of the outcome and thought if other members liked it maybe the Shop could introduce a new range and i could point them in the right direction  but obviously its not feasible if people arn't interested. SORRY i didn't read the Copyright act I honestly didn't think to look, if its going cause to much upset ill burn the ruddy thing!

[the alarming man]

no dont do that if...if tunnie see that as a sales thread i will gladly meet up with him and his janet and john books and give him reading lessons

[TheBoy]

no dont do that if...if tunnie see that as a sales thread i will gladly meet up with him and his janet and john books and give him reading lessons

I have the unique advantage of having access to the original thread, so please stop trying to be judge and jury based on hearsay 

[TheBoy]

I repeat, the OOF logos are copyrighted, and may not be used without express written permission of the owners of OOF.

Given that OOF costs money to run - we are on our 4th server since we got kicked off Hosting Unlimited/Server Centre's servers, not to mention bandwidth and energy requirements - and we don't charge membership or allow ad servers to infect our pages, there are commercial interests involved.

I hope that is 100% clear.

[the alarming man]

no dont do that if...if tunnie see that as a sales thread i will gladly meet up with him and his janet and john books and give him reading lessons

I have the unique advantage of having access to the original thread, so please stop trying to be judge and jury based on hearsay 

well i have the unique advantage of having also reading the original thread and forming my own opinion....as for being judge and jury,well everyone else seems to want to hang sam which i feel is wrong BUT for some reason this is happen all too much on this forum lately

[TheBoy]

well i have the unique advantage of having also reading the original thread and forming my own opinion

Which you are perfectly entitled to. As are other members. Having reread the original thread less than 20 minutes ago, I can assure you that it had turned into the type of thread tunnie implied. Maybe you didn't have the benefit of seeing/remembering the entire thread

....as for being judge and jury,well everyone else seems to want to hang sam which i feel is wrong

Sam is (inadvertantly, I suspect) breached our copyright. Its right that he is informed that he has done 'wrong', as we do rely on self moderation here. I think that, due to the comments from members (which do not look offensive/abusive to me), Sam is now fully aware of the issues.

this is happen all too much on this forum lately

I strikes me that there are factions within OOF that feel genuine grievences are ignored due to cliques or whatever else you want to call it. However, these grievences are never reported to the Admins to be looked into, and a word-of-mouth hearsay starts, and the poison sets in, and then set views on things/people set in. Then you end up with a group of people constantly, but silently, always trying to undermine what OOF is all about.

[paul.lovejoy]

Firstly this is not aimed at anyone in particular and certianley not TB whom i hold in high regard.. Understand copy right and OOF is free

My view

I would be more than happy to Pay for the priveledge of using OOF more than happy i do not see why anybody should be out of pocket in fact if i won lotto tomorrow OOF with never be short of funds simples, you never know just my opinion and i know and respect opossing view but introduce a memeber ship fee and watch free loaders dissapear yes i would actually pay to get the piss taken out of me

I am relativley new to the site a year but i have had the advantage of actually meeting people at Newent and i would add made to feel very welcome and not put down at all becuse i know absolutley nothing about cars . plus with the added fact that i personally feel i have made connections with people on here  which i enjoy and hopefully will continue too do so

Sam is like a little insperation a young lad eager and full of enthusisim in my honest opinion, look at his other posts yes he copied the loggo dont think for one minute he was out to make a buck, members liked what they saw and wanted it ditto to the work he is doing on his car. Oh yes and look at his pictures quite handy with a camera too. Anyway a creative individual that hopefully will not be flogged at dawn with a wet copy of the finacial times.

at the end of the day a bollocking from the boss you bad boy but lets not put him dowm hey