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[Rods2]

...the US where they have a Russian owned POTUS who has passed on intelligence to his Kremlin boss and his agents.

Your Trump Derangement Syndrome has truly taken hold. Pure nonsense. 

Read the link where this is the most well known, but not the only one where Donald Trump has given his boss, Putin classified information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classified_information

Carry on looking very foolish with your uninformed opinions.

[Lizzie Zoom]

...the US where they have a Russian owned POTUS who has passed on intelligence to his Kremlin boss and his agents.

Your Trump Derangement Syndrome has truly taken hold. Pure nonsense. 

Read the link where this is the most well known, but not the only one where Donald Trump has given his boss, Putin classified information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classified_information

Carry on looking very foolish with your uninformed opinions.

Come on Rod, stop using Wilipedia to reference. That is not a reliable source of primary information that is recognised in the academic world.  If you keep on reading and quoting pieces of bullshit from that site you will believe anything, as I think you do, such as Trump being a Ruskie in disguise in the White House! 


His boss is NOT Putin for goodness sake. His boss is the American electorate no matter how much you hate him and want to publish stupid personal comments, as you also do about Putin, like some deranged journalist!!

When you quote from truly informed sources then you can accuse others of having "uninformed" /  ill informed opinions

[Migalot]

...the US where they have a Russian owned POTUS who has passed on intelligence to his Kremlin boss and his agents.

Your Trump Derangement Syndrome has truly taken hold. Pure nonsense. 

Read the link where this is the most well known, but not the only one where Donald Trump has given his boss, Putin classified information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classified_information

Carry on looking very foolish with your uninformed opinions.

Wikipedia??? ROFL. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

It really should be termed the EU Military as it's not just the armies of the EU that they want amalgamate, but the navies and air forces as well! 

They are telling us that it is necessary to spend billions of tax Euros on the establishment of an EU military command structure (basically replicating NATO) for the defence and security of Europe, but it has been proved 3 times in the last hundred years that we cannot defend Europe from each other, or from a large external threat like the USSR without the help of the USA. 

NATO has done a great job in the last 70 years, so why do anything to jeopardise that? 

Firstly, they say that Trump is threatening to pull out of NATO so we cannot rely on the US, but Trump is only going to be around for another 6 years max.  Maybe less, maybe a lot less!    Trump's bluster is more about getting European countries to spend more on defence, than any serious threat to walk away.  You have to keep that threat to walk away though right?   

Secondly, amalgamating the armies. navies and air forces of the EU into one force, with a single command structure controlled by the EU then gives the EU the ability to project hard power..... in the EU's name. 

And this is what it is really all about IMO.   

[STEMO]

And France is going to let politicians in Brussels tell it what it can/can't do with it's nukes. Right?

[Sir Tigger KC]

And France is going to let politicians in Brussels tell it what it can/can't do with it's nukes. Right?

Yes they will. The amalgamation of the militaries of the EU countries is another step towards complete integration and the French are one of the main drivers of the 'Political Project'. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

But of course we all know that in the end, the Germans call the shots in the EU, so they will finally succeed in dominating Europe without firing a shot. France wont mind as long as they are a close second to the Germans in power and influence.
If Russia ever gets really serious about attacking Europe they will all shit themselves again and phone the Whitehouse though.
As long as we stay out of it, I don't give a flying fark what happens to them. Serves them right for being power crazy. 

[Varche]

I cannot see the Brexit outcome being such that “ we can let them get on with it”

Things like co operation on security from cross border criminals to solidaity on defence.  There will have to be a relationship between EU army, UK and the USA.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I cannot see the Brexit outcome being such that “ we can let them get on with it”

Things like co operation on security from cross border criminals to solidaity on defence.  There will have to be a relationship between EU army, UK and the USA.

The military side of things can and should be done through the auspices of NATO, but the MOD have been quietly signing the UK up to PESCO as a third country.  This will not only mean our armed forces are under the control of the EU in certain circumstances, but the MOD might have to abide by EU laws on procurement.  This might mean that the design and construction of future Royal Navy ships for example have to be put out to tender across the EU, and that those ships are more likely to be built in Gdansk than Rosyth. 

As to cooperation in police matters, you'd think that the EU would be looking at ways in which to cooperate further with responsible third countries who are allies, rather than withdrawing access to databases etc.  It just shows what a petty inward looking organisation the EU is! 

[Varche]

I have been quite shocked by the petty but ruthless EU approach .it will have been missed by most folk.

Had to smile with the UK government  procuring services of three ferry companies to smooth over a no deal . Two are Europeancompanies and the third is British but doesnt have any actual ferries ( yet).

[Nick W]

I have been quite shocked by the petty but ruthless EU approach .it will have been missed by most folk.

Had to smile with the UK government  procuring services of three ferry companies to smooth over a no deal . Two are Europeancompanies and the third is British but doesnt have any actual ferries ( yet).

they're going to wait for the next boat load of migrants and steal that. Although they will have to wait for one small enough to fit into Ramsgate.


Ramsgate for oppss sake: 5 cars and a bicycle per trip is really going to ease the strain on Dover.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I have been quite shocked by the petty but ruthless EU approach .it will have been missed by most folk.

Had to smile with the UK government  procuring services of three ferry companies to smooth over a no deal . Two are Europeancompanies and the third is British but doesnt have any actual ferries ( yet).

This has obviously been done within great British tradition of "That'll be alright.... " 

Although Seaborne Freight obviously has a great sales team! 

[Nick W]

I have been quite shocked by the petty but ruthless EU approach .it will have been missed by most folk.

Had to smile with the UK government  procuring services of three ferry companies to smooth over a no deal . Two are Europeancompanies and the third is British but doesnt have any actual ferries ( yet).

This has obviously been done within great British tradition of "That'll be alright.... " 

Although Seaborne Freight obviously has a great sales team!     big stash of blackmail material

FTFY