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Trade Talks
« on: 03 December 2020, 09:37:14 »

Deadline after deadline pass.

It has all gone quiet. Not the usual leaks we have had. Maybe that is a good sign.

My suspicion is a deal will be made but will then struggle to get approval by the EU countries. Eg France on whatever is agreed on fishing. I can see Boris meeting with EU dignitaries very soon.

All extremely last minute. I wonder if in the event of a trade deal or not, there will be an adjustment period!

Do you think there will be a deal?
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #1 on: 03 December 2020, 09:44:07 »

Unlikely, and nor should there be. The EU has done nothing but demand. If our leaving the EU last January, yes i know it's a struggle to grasp..., is such a threat to the EU perhaps they should have taken it more seriously. ???

We can only hope that Barnier and his team suffer a train breakdown on their way home.
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #2 on: 03 December 2020, 10:06:48 »

No deal is better than a bad deal.............              Say the French!  ::)

Ooo the irony!  ;D
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #3 on: 03 December 2020, 10:10:19 »

Afterall, everything that they have proposed has been worse than staying in... Which hardly been an incentive  ;D

The French will be happy as long as they are French  :D
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #4 on: 03 December 2020, 10:18:19 »

Negotiation is like playing poker.  He who knows he holds the cards, can let the time slip, until the other party starts to panic. This is how the EU is playing it.
What both parties need is a win win.
Unfortunately, neither party is looking to compromise, so it comes down to who has bigger ballocks.
The UK has bigger ballocks.  Unfortunately he is in charge at the moment. 
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #5 on: 03 December 2020, 10:21:53 »


https://news.liverpool.ac.uk/2018/12/13/full-speech-sir-ivan-rogers-on-brexit/

Long read from 2018, but I still refer to it sometimes. It explains why these negotiations are and will continue to be extremely difficult.
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #6 on: 03 December 2020, 16:52:59 »

Do you think there will be a deal?
You have been tripping overyouself for the last 4 years to insist that the EU will roll over and give us better than we had before without having to pay into the system, simply because we are British.

So of course we will get a stunning deal, and also the £350m a week for the NHS as promised on the bus.


Or is the reality finally starting to hit home?
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #7 on: 03 December 2020, 16:56:42 »

The best deal was always going to be No Deal. At least we  know where we are at. Just a pity it all didn't happen a week after the Referendum...
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #8 on: 03 December 2020, 17:05:08 »

The best deal was always going to be No Deal. At least we  know where we are at. Just a pity it all didn't happen a week after the Referendum...
If you dont need a working economy to pay for the lame and lazy. And the civil service.

We hadn't recovered from the crash 12yrs ago, we have been in recession in most sectors for the last 3 years, so we were already monumentally screwed.  Before any of this sniffle thing which has helped Boris ignore Brexit.

The timing (pre sniffle) was about as worse it could have been.
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #9 on: 03 December 2020, 17:07:22 »

Do you think there will be a deal?
You have been tripping over yourself for the last 4 years to insist that the EU will roll over and give us better than we had before without having to pay into the system, simply because we are British.

So of course we will get a stunning deal, and also the £350m a week for the NHS as promised on the bus.


Or is the reality finally starting to hit home?


Just like us, the EU can't afford to give in.


Unlike us, 'no deal' will be an inconvenience not cutting their own throats.


No deal will last until the first blood hits the floor, and then we'll be clamouring for whatever scraps we can get.


The whole thing has been such a opps up, we won't deserve those.


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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #10 on: 03 December 2020, 17:56:16 »

Ok we have been over all that stuff over the last four years.

Will there be a deal in the next few days? I am thinking yes as it has all gone quiet.
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #11 on: 03 December 2020, 18:06:06 »

Good luck with that...

https://youtu.be/35XhJe1gg0A

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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #12 on: 03 December 2020, 18:27:59 »

Or is the reality finally starting to hit home?

Ok we have been over all that stuff over the last four years.

A simple Yes would have sufficed.



As to any deal, the only way that will happen is if Boris sells us out in return for little.  In which case we would have been better staying in (which we currently always would have anyway).
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #13 on: 03 December 2020, 19:03:09 »

Or is the reality finally starting to hit home?

Ok we have been over all that stuff over the last four years.

A simple Yes would have sufficed.



As to any deal, the only way that will happen is if when Boris sells us out in return for little.  In which case we would have been better staying in (which we currently always would have anyway).




FTFY.


That's fixed in the same way that repeatedly smashing something with your biggest hammer 'fixes' things :-\
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Re: Trade Talks
« Reply #14 on: 03 December 2020, 19:17:24 »

That's fixed in the same way that repeatedly smashing something with your biggest hammer 'fixes' things :-\
A hammer always fixes thins, one way or the other.
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