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Title: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Big Fra on 24 August 2009, 00:09:03
Well, since she returned today I have been informed that there was indeed road markings, and that the chap that ran into her was in the wrong lane.

I have had a look over the Megane and although it does not look bad in the pictures, every panel on the near side has been damaged to some effect.

The sill seems quite badly damaged, and the front door is twisted and leaks water.

Have a butchers for yourselves.

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd135/bigfra79/Megane%20bump/Nearside.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd135/bigfra79/Megane%20bump/silldoorwing2.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd135/bigfra79/Megane%20bump/sillcloseup.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd135/bigfra79/Megane%20bump/doortops.jpg)
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Pete Elite on 24 August 2009, 00:49:43
At least the Misses is OK and that's what matters most :).
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: omegod on 24 August 2009, 12:36:52
Bit of a mess! Good chance that may prove a total loss, sadly, due to the number of panels involved but as Pete said, as long as the missus is ok!
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: willyboy on 24 August 2009, 12:48:17
Yep so long as missus is ok thats what matters cars are only lumps of metal & in the scheme of things mean nowt !

Make sure she has no aches & pains these can often appear later & cause probs so be sure your ready to make a injury claim in need be...
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 24 August 2009, 13:27:00
Looks like that could well be off to be made into razor blades in China!
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: theowletman on 24 August 2009, 14:11:03
Yep, at main dealer / approved bodyshop prices that will be heading to the big breakers in the sky. If you want to know Glass's price for the car in case they make you an offer, let me know, model, miles, trim level etc.
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 24 August 2009, 14:43:10
Don't forget to pop down to the scene Fra and get some pics of the approach, the point of impact and of the intended route from that point :y :y
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Ian_D on 24 August 2009, 23:30:02
Doesn't look that bad on the photos?

Bit of work on the sill, and a new door and it should be alright?

Or is the damage worse than it looks? :-/
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Big Fra on 25 August 2009, 01:24:58
Like this you mean? ;) :D

Just to clarify. The breadknife was in the right hand lane heading A9 Northbound.
The other car was in the left hand lane, wanting the Dunblane (B8033) cut off.

BTW, her insurance company said its most likely going to be a 50 - 50 claim! :o
Good job she took the following pictures!
I jope this clarifies and confirms Rena's innocence!

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd135/bigfra79/Megane%20bump/100_0438.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd135/bigfra79/Megane%20bump/100_0440.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd135/bigfra79/Megane%20bump/100_0442.jpg)
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Big Fra on 25 August 2009, 01:34:26
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Looks like that could well be off to be made into razor blades in China!

It's a bloody shame, the wee car gets no less than 55mpg and can do 75mpg on a run!
It's nippy enough and rather good fun in the twisties.
Well, once you anticipate the turbo lag and the anvil under the bonnet! ;D
Plus £35 a year road tax!
And the boot is (just) big enough for the two dogs.

It's a possible case of salvage buyback and I'll fix it myself and run it into the ground. Wont be to a professional standard but perfectly acceptable.

Cheers for the comments guys, you are certainly on the same wavelength as me. :y
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 25 August 2009, 01:50:43
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Like this you mean? ;) :D

Just to clarify. The breadknife was in the right hand lane heading A9 Northbound.
The other car was in the left hand lane, wanting the Dunblane (B8033) cut off.

BTW, her insurance company said its most likely going to be a 50 - 50 claim! :o
Good job she took the following pictures!
I jope this clarifies and confirms Rena's innocence!

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd135/bigfra79/Megane%20bump/100_0438.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd135/bigfra79/Megane%20bump/100_0440.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd135/bigfra79/Megane%20bump/100_0442.jpg)


That's not bad fra take onother - from the drivers perspective, nearer the end of that stretch and one at the give way lines to show her intended route and one at the point of impact of course. It's important to show a continuity of progress from the position on the last pic right up to the point of impact

The road markings are directing traffic bound for the B8033 to use the right lane although I would have thought that your wife would have been better in the left lane bound for the A9, although both lanes can be used, I consider the left one to be the safer option on a fast road like that.

 It would seem that the other driver was poorly positioned.
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Big Fra on 25 August 2009, 03:08:56
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Like this you mean? ;) :D

Just to clarify. The breadknife was in the right hand lane heading A9 Northbound.
The other car was in the left hand lane, wanting the Dunblane (B8033) cut off.

BTW, her insurance company said its most likely going to be a 50 - 50 claim! :o
Good job she took the following pictures!
I jope this clarifies and confirms Rena's innocence!

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd135/bigfra79/Megane%20bump/100_0438.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd135/bigfra79/Megane%20bump/100_0440.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd135/bigfra79/Megane%20bump/100_0442.jpg)


That's not bad fra take onother - from the drivers perspective, nearer the end of that stretch and one at the give way lines to show her intended route and one at the point of impact of course. It's important to show a continuity of progress from the position on the last pic right up to the point of impact

The road markings are directing traffic bound for the B8033 to use the right lane although I would have thought that your wife would have been better in the left lane bound for the A9, although both lanes can be used, I consider the left one to be the safer option on a fast road like that.

 It would seem that the other driver was poorly positioned.

Absolutley Zulu.
Personally I would have been in the left lane.
But you can see clearly from the road markings which would have been the lane to be in.
Obviously he didnt! >:(
There are pics of the exits and of the impact scene, but they dont show a great deal.
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Big Fra on 25 August 2009, 10:55:15
Car is getting assessed today at 12.

Lets see what they say! :-/
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 25 August 2009, 10:59:10
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Car is getting assessed today at 12.

Lets see what they say! :-/

Hope it goes well big lad :y :y
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Big Fra on 26 August 2009, 01:02:52
OK, the assessor said.....

THE FLAMING OBVIOUS!

Whit a pie!

"Er, it needs a wing, door, new sill piece, alloy refurbed and the side of the car painted."

and, my fave.

"Something done with the steering."

When swmbo asked if the car would be written off, he answered;
"Maybe, the car is repairable, but with the current climate, who knows?"

OK, that REALLY inspires confidence.

I'm rather glad I wasn't there.

I would have either;

A: Lost my temper at his lack of knowledge/professionalism.(and get dragged away by the missus)

B: Asked him several questions, (which he probably would not have been able to answer) then lost my temper.(and get dragged away by the missus)

This isn't even my car and she's got me stressed!
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: doog on 26 August 2009, 10:00:08
Fra the same thing happened to my mother on that roundabout 3 years ago the way the roundabout is set you can use both lanes to go to perth or dunblane
it was settled as a 50/50 by the insurance companies

personaly i would say outside lane for perth  inside lane for dunblane.

Doug
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 26 August 2009, 11:12:10
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Fra the same thing happened to my mother on that roundabout 3 years ago the way the roundabout is set you can use both lanes to go to perth or dunblane
it was settled as a 50/50 by the insurance companies

personaly i would say outside lane for perth  inside lane for dunblane.

Doug


 :-/ :-/ not sure about that D :y
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Big Fra on 26 August 2009, 11:34:10
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Fra the same thing happened to my mother on that roundabout 3 years ago the way the roundabout is set you can use both lanes to go to perth or dunblane
it was settled as a 50/50 by the insurance companies

personaly i would say outside lane for perth  inside lane for dunblane.

Doug

So do several friends and family who use that road regularly. A mix of taxi drivers, field repair technicians, and dare I say.........one plod! All stating that usually the traffic is a lot slower moving in the left hand lane due to tourists and large vehicles, so the right hand lane usually makes the most sense. Espescially as it is clearly marked that both lanes can be used.

Had the other driver paid attention to the clear road markings, we would not be in the situation we are in!

Pretty clear cut imho!
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: hotel21 on 26 August 2009, 19:16:30
Not wanting to sound like a wet blanket, road markings permitted, its upto any driver to ensure its safe to change lanes?

You really need additional pics of how a driver, whilst in lane 2 as your other half was, is able to leave that lane onto their new road.  Is there a 'snail' type set of markings from her lane onto lane 2 of the new road?  You really need pics of that too. 

I would still think that the ins co's will settle 50/50 unless you really bolster your highway code/road markings/carefull and considerate driver argument....   :y
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 26 August 2009, 19:30:40
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Not wanting to sound like a wet blanket, road markings permitted, its upto any driver to ensure its safe to change lanes?
You really need additional pics of how a driver, whilst in lane 2 as your other half was, is able to leave that lane onto their new road.  Is there a 'snail' type set of markings from her lane onto lane 2 of the new road?  You really need pics of that too. 

I would still think that the ins co's will settle 50/50 unless you really bolster your highway code/road markings/carefull and considerate driver argument....   :y


;D ;D and I can still feel the slap of the heavy black plastic SO rule on  the back of my left hand when the instructor reckoned that I hadn't engaged M S M before departing position :y :y
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: hotel21 on 26 August 2009, 20:10:49
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Not wanting to sound like a wet blanket, road markings permitted, its upto any driver to ensure its safe to change lanes?
You really need additional pics of how a driver, whilst in lane 2 as your other half was, is able to leave that lane onto their new road.  Is there a 'snail' type set of markings from her lane onto lane 2 of the new road?  You really need pics of that too. 

I would still think that the ins co's will settle 50/50 unless you really bolster your highway code/road markings/carefull and considerate driver argument....   :y


;D ;D and I can still feel the slap of the heavy black plastic SO rule on  the back of my left hand when the instructor reckoned that I hadn't engaged M S M before departing position :y :y

yup.......   :y
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: doog on 26 August 2009, 20:48:42
heres a picture of Keir roundabout i borrowed from google earth
it may clear up any confusion
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg174/r0x0rz1337/keirroundabout.jpg)

Doug
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: hotel21 on 26 August 2009, 20:58:37
2 lanes at the 6 o'clock, two lanes at exit at 11. 

Same general rules apply whereby the person on lane 2 at entry and following that path around the roundabout towards exit must ensure its safe to leave at the lane 2 exit, irrespective of who/what is in lane one.

I was taught to read the advance direction sign prior to entry.  If your exit is prior to 12 o'clock - as in this case - then take lane 1.  If its after 12 then use lane 2 but remember to Mirror Signal Manoevre........
Title: Re: Update on swmbo's accident!
Post by: Big Fra on 27 August 2009, 02:10:39
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Not wanting to sound like a wet blanket, road markings permitted, its upto any driver to ensure its safe to change lanes?

You really need additional pics of how a driver, whilst in lane 2 as your other half was, is able to leave that lane onto their new road.  Is there a 'snail' type set of markings from her lane onto lane 2 of the new road?  You really need pics of that too. 

I would still think that the ins co's will settle 50/50 unless you really bolster your highway code/road markings/carefull and considerate driver argument....   :y

Not having been up there for a while, i'm not sure if there are any dashes indicating lanes on the roundabout.

Guess I will be doing that this weekend. ::)

I understand the before/after 12 o'clock rule as do most people.
However given the road markings preceeding the roundabout, the directions are pretty clear.

Rena has stipulated to me that she checked her mirror, checked over her shoulder, started to indicate, then bang! The car hit her.

If I had no personal link to this, and saw the pics on here, I would concentrate on the following.

Clear exit markings on the roadsign.
The 12 o'clock rule/mantra.
The very clear roadmarkings.
The fact he intended to pass on the left on a roundabout.

Again, pretty clear imho.

P.S.

Cheers for the pic Doug. :y