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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 13 May 2020, 08:38:15 »
Quickie diagnosis:


Bridge the terminals on the starter with a screwdriver.


 If it turns, you need to check the wiring with a mutimeter.
If it doesn't turn, the starter is poor. Give it a hefty whack and try again. If that works, you can now drive the car to your nearest supplier of replacement parts - don't buy one off Ebay as you'll probably endup with a Chinese Yak52 one. Which won't match the fittings on your car

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 13 May 2020, 08:37:29 »
Tap the top of K1 with the key held at crank.

K1 is the sodding great red relay.

And report back
Did that, nothing happened.

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 12 May 2020, 19:51:35 »
Fuse 7? Another Diddy one, 15a just across the gap from F2.  ;)

Fuse 7 is OK too.
There are eight relays in the front box. I don't see in Haynes or the owner's handbook what they do. Might one of them be responsible?

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 12 May 2020, 19:11:28 »
Fuse 2 in the engine bay still intact?

Diddy one in a block of 6. 25a...
Yes, checked that this morning.

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 12 May 2020, 18:46:17 »
If the gauge reads empty, and it turns over but won't start... What reasonable conclusion might one reach?

I thought it wasn't turning over because of the starter...  :-\
I think from his last, that it turned over...

It has just occurred to me that it's possible it didn't start because the key wasn't in with the ignition on :-X
Key was in, ignition turned on, handbrake hard on, gear in neutral,and SWMBO was in the car for further safety. Rear lights work, but looks like there is no power to fuel pump and gauge.
Anyway I do not need a new starter, all it lacks is power to the solenoid relay. Tomorrow I shall plug in my diagnoser.
Any more advice very welcome.

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 12 May 2020, 17:50:46 »
Could also be out of fuel ::)
But it was half full yesterday and it hasn't been anywhere. There is no puddle, and no smell of petrol.

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 12 May 2020, 16:41:18 »
Correction. My assistant now says when she got into the car this afternoon it said tank half full, then I cranked the ngine, she looked again at the fuel gauge and it had dropped to empty. But it said empty last night and his morning. I've just checked, still says empty.
Could it be a dodgy relay?

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 12 May 2020, 16:32:16 »
It occurred to me that as I have 12v at one terminal, and 12v at the other terminal should pull in the solenoid, if I join them the starter should engage and turn the engine. And it did.
But the engine did not start. My assistant observed that yesterday the fuel gauge said half full, now it's stuck on empty. Also the display says F gal/h which isn't very helpful.
Please advise.

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 12 May 2020, 14:38:20 »
The drive slopes gently downhill towards the garage, is 20 yards long and I can tow the car up it with the Omega. I agree it would struggle to start the engine, is risky, and would probably get us no further forward.

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 12 May 2020, 12:58:34 »
Iremoved the battery in March for recharging while car was off the road. I had planned to leave the car awaiting spare Vx cable as advised by DG, but got bored and decided to recommission it. Car had no battery for about five weeks.
 On my bench are several Vx batteries, all from scrapped Vauxhalls, all charged regularly. After refilling with coolant I fitted a fully charged battery and attempted to start the engine. Starter did not crank. I changed the battery. Starter again failed to crank. I jumped another good battery battery in car. Still no joy. hence this thread.

Battery compartment has many leads, as in pic, but all seem OK. Car is canbuss.
I do not believe all my batteries are dead. I have other cars, I move batteries around occasionally. As this thread describes, strange things are happening. If it were a PC, I would stop and restart it and all would be well. Maybe I should remove the battery overnight and try again.
Car is currently on a SORN note. It might bump start in the drive, would that help?
Please advise.

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 12 May 2020, 08:57:46 »
Try again with the clutch pedal pressed...
Good thinking - tried that. Did not crank. However, did notice that display now says F gal/h and the fuel gauge is stuck on empty. Also, had noticed on some earlier attempts to crank after failure to crank the green cruise symbol was lit. This car is the one on which the cruise did not work as purchased, and we cured eventually by insrting a 7.5 amp fuse into vacant slot FI 20.
This morning I noticed 10 seconds of clicking on cranking key I have not heard before, and the visual display behaves differently while attempting to crank.
I will check fuse FI 20, add fuel, and report back. I don't think it was low on fuel, though.

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 11 May 2020, 22:10:37 »
is the starter motor anywhere near where the coolant leaked  :-\
I'm wandering if some coolant bridged the start terminal to ground ,blowing a fuse , unlikely
or any work done fixing the leak damaged the loom or disconnected something  :-\
also , are all lives and grounds that where on the battery now back on (i say that because often battery terminals have more than 1 wire )

now the battery is re-connected ,has any codes been stored ?

doing a code read with your Chinese computer thingy could shed some light

try engine ,then a full module scan is what I would do  :y

another thought , seem to remember the vec c suffering CIM or clock fails ? don't know anything about it
perhaps someone who knows vec c could give some pointers DG or TB perhaps ??
Coolant leak was in front of the block, starter is at the back, so did not get wet. I will check the leads are all still connected, but think they are.
I will try a scan tomorrow, but car has run well for nine months, and has not suffered much dissembly, and there is power at the starter. It's just all new to me; I have changed several starters on Senators and Omegas, but the Vectra is different.

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 11 May 2020, 21:56:14 »
When you say it works the central locking, is that mechanically in the lock or using the fob buttons?
Using the fob buttons

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 11 May 2020, 21:21:53 »
Are you definitely using the correct key to start the car ?
 not a spare key that may not have the transponder programmed 
does the key work the central locking ?
and sure that no aftermarket kill switch or immobilizer is fitted  :-\

seems odd it was working and now isn't with just the battery flat/being swapped  :-\
Yes, the right key, it works the central locking, I'm not aware of any other kill switch or immobiliser.
 I bought this car last July, it's due MOT April 14th 2020, chasing a small water leak I created another one, see http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=146494.0. Then the coronavirus changed everything, Vx dealers closed, MOTs were extended, over 70s were locked down indefinitely. I repaired the coolant leak, refilled with coolant. In recommissioning the car, the starter will not function.
 It seems odd to me too.

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General Car Chat / Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« on: 11 May 2020, 20:07:29 »
OK, given as that's the basics outlined...

Are you getting 12v across the battery?
Yes, and 12v between earth and heavy lead to terminal on solenoid too.

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