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[maracus]

I have just opened up ecu's on both my old chipped pfl manual td and my new facelift td so I could see if I could pull the chip out my old and into the new.

Chip no. on the chipped chip is (I think, my memory is poor and the photo I took is grainy) 342??... And the "new" car chip no. is 1 037 355 972 / 0 281 001 427 on the one that gets swapped. Two questions,

1) who do I speak to to get a socket sioldered on (local to cambridge/peterborough (maybe for a 12 pack of beers??)

2) can I use the chip I have or do I need to buy a new one?

Marcus. 

[TheBoy]

1) any local electronics repair place (try small, independent TV repair shops)

2) Assume you've bought a map and have a programmer then? If so, worth taking copy of existing map before overwriting. Personally, I'd use a new chip, and carry the original around in case an unexpected problem occurs...  ...some of these ebay maps are absolutely awful.

[maracus]

1) any local electronics repair place (try small, independent TV repair shops)

2) Assume you've bought a map and have a programmer then? If so, worth taking copy of existing map before overwriting. Personally, I'd use a new chip, and carry the original around in case an unexpected problem occurs...  ...some of these ebay maps are absolutely awful.

No that sounds expensive!... i was under the impression that there's four different chips depending on what the numbers on the chip are.. Have I got that right?
If I needed a different chip I was going to drop a PM to the guy I brought the last one off. Although Id hope that I could save £40 and use the one I've already got..

Wil try local electrical places then 

[TheBoy]

There are lots of different maps.

The cost of a blank chip is probably around £5-10 (gone up a bit recently, I guess not as common as they once were)

[zirk]

There are lots of different maps.

The cost of a blank chip is probably around £5-10 (gone up a bit recently, I guess not as common as they once were)

I think the OP is asking whether the Old Chip from He's PFL will fit into His new FL?, rather than copying the Map from it.?

[TheBoy]

OK, what age and gearbox is:

The old TD
The new TD

[maracus]

That's what I meant haha!

Old td; manual, on an N plate,
New td; manual, on a V plate.

Will check the years when I get home as can't remember off the top of my head 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Nope, wont work

[maracus]

Drat!


Best wait for payday then 

[TheBoy]

N reg will be 1996, so borderline. Did it have a MAF? Do you still have old ECU, if so, are last 4 digits 214?

[maracus]

Yep.. It is indeed a '96  no AFM on that one, but there is one on the new one... On that, I thought they'd be different but thought I'd ask for sure lol. As for the digits 214... Possibly, haha! Is that on the ecu casing or the actual chip itself?

[zirk]

Yep.. It is indeed a '96  no AFM on that one, but there is one on the new one... On that, I thought they'd be different but thought I'd ask for sure lol. As for the digits 214... Possibly, haha! Is that on the ecu casing or the actual chip itself?

ECU Casing, theres a Blue or White lable from memory with the Boosh ECU number on there, although its been a while.

[zirk]

Found a old pic if it helps, the ECU on the left was from an Omega TD's, N reg with no Maf. last Digits 214.

Forget the one on the right thats from a BM TDSE.

[maracus]

Just had a look and yep it's a 214 on the old one 

I thought that number sounded fimiliar!

[TheBoy]

Methinks you need a new chip

[maracus]

Yep... Looks that way haha! What other "go faster" things can be done to these? In sure I've read on here you can advance the injector pump a tooth?

[05omegav6]

Would have thought swapping the 3.5 BMW lump in would be a pretty straight forward exercise  assuming you can get one for sensible money of course...

[zirk]

You can get around 185 bhp from the BM 2.5TDS's through remapping, and just under 200 Bhp with more tweaking with Turbo size and boost pressure but they don't last very long. 

[maracus]

Sounds tempting... But the less I spend on the car the better. Although if one comes up for scrap money with a decent lump... 

[maracus]

You can get around 185 bhp from the BM 2.5TDS's through remapping, and just under 200 Bhp with more tweaking with Turbo size and boost pressure but they don't last very long. 

Longevity isn't a concern.. Not much of one anyway. I have a spare engine just incase.  I'd happily push it to within an inch of its life 

My first td saloon was damn quick for what it was, I swear that was more than just chipped! Used to light the tyres so easy it wasn't fun to drive in the wet in a hurry, and saw me get pulled by s copper one night who claimed he was doing 140 "and still didn't catch you up" 

[Magwheels]

I have seen 230bhp quoted for the off road boys in the Range Rover from a reputable company. This does of course mean extensive mods and lots of money, would be good fun though!!!

[maracus]

I have seen 230bhp quoted for the off road boys in the Range Rover from a reputable company. This does of course mean extensive mods and lots of money, would be good fun though!!!

 

[zirk]

You can get around 185 bhp from the BM 2.5TDS's through remapping, and just under 200 Bhp with more tweaking with Turbo size and boost pressure but they don't last very long. 

Longevity isn't a concern.. Not much of one anyway. I have a spare engine just incase.  I'd happily push it to within an inch of its life 

My first td saloon was damn quick for what it was, I swear that was more than just chipped! Used to light the tyres so easy it wasn't fun to drive in the wet in a hurry, and saw me get pulled by s copper one night who claimed he was doing 140 "and still didn't catch you up" 

Bear in mind the 2.5TDS had a few more horses than the standard BM 2.5TD lumb, and the latter had more than the Omega flavoured, so a fair way to go to get the Omega up to them kind of figures.

Longevity, hmm, depends of your own definitions really, we use to Track them (325's) and they rarely used to make it to the final lap, a stupidly short lived weekend hobby if Im honest. 

[TheBoy]

The engine does let go quite spectacularly if pushed too much...  ...possibly due to oilways prone to clogging.

The chip guy I used to chip my tractor used to do chips for £70 delivered, though think a lot cheaper now. He himself had a TD manual with 427 ECU that went well, one of the quickest I've driven. Omegatoy has a quick tractor as well, chipped, intercooler fan manually controlled, and we played with the wastegate one day (using tech1 to keep an eye on boost and temps), can't remember if that's a 214 or 427 ECU though...  ...Omegatoy?

[TheBoy]

(using tech1 to keep an eye on boost and temps), can't remember if that's a 214 or 427 ECU though...  ...Omegatoy?

Thinking about it, must be 214, as I'd use Tech2 one a DDE2.1 (as the Tech1 sucks!)

[maracus]

You can get around 185 bhp from the BM 2.5TDS's through remapping, and just under 200 Bhp with more tweaking with Turbo size and boost pressure but they don't last very long. 

Longevity isn't a concern.. Not much of one anyway. I have a spare engine just incase.  I'd happily push it to within an inch of its life 

My first td saloon was damn quick for what it was, I swear that was more than just chipped! Used to light the tyres so easy it wasn't fun to drive in the wet in a hurry, and saw me get pulled by s copper one night who claimed he was doing 140 "and still didn't catch you up" 

Bear in mind the 2.5TDS had a few more horses than the standard BM 2.5TD lumb, and the latter had more than the Omega flavoured, so a fair way to go to get the Omega up to them kind of figures.

Longevity, hmm, depends of your own definitions really, we use to Track them (325's) and they rarely used to make it to the final lap, a stupidly short lived weekend hobby if Im honest. 

Umm.. ok maybe I am concerned about longevity, would like to get at least a few weeks out of it haha

[maracus]

The engine does let go quite spectacularly if pushed too much...  ...possibly due to oilways prone to clogging.

The chip guy I used to chip my tractor used to do chips for £70 delivered, though think a lot cheaper now. He himself had a TD manual with 427 ECU that went well, one of the quickest I've driven. Omegatoy has a quick tractor as well, chipped, intercooler fan manually controlled, and we played with the wastegate one day (using tech1 to keep an eye on boost and temps), can't remember if that's a 214 or 427 ECU though...  ...Omegatoy?

The one on eBay at the moment for around the £40 mark looks like the same company name as whats printed on the label on my old chip.. Think I'll go with one of those as the gains impressed me with the last one 

[maracus]

While I'm here, I've just discovered my fuel pump isn't coming on, and haven't yet found evidence of power at the wiring plug. Which relay/fuse needs checking?