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[Sir Tigger KC]

It looks like Labour will shift policy to back a second BREXIT referendum. 

Which got me thinking. 

Has any country in history ever voted for, fought for or negotiated for independence only to change their minds and end up staying in the situation that they originally wanted to break free from?   

If we end up staying in the EU will we break ground as the worlds most spineless country?      

Maybe the UN give out an annual prize for the most pathetic country?   

[Doctor Gollum]

Joking aside, if this happens, blood will be shed.

[Andy B]

but if a 2nd vote came up with a 'stay' result, would we have a best of 3? 

[Sir Tigger KC]

but if a 2nd vote came up with a 'stay' result, would we have a best of 3? 

Well according to proponents of the People's Establishment's Vote, democracy never stops and people are entitled to change their mind. 

Until the 'correct' result is delivered of course. 

[Varche]

Neverendum

[Nick W]

The only surprise is that it has taken this long.


The members of the Labour party were expecting the referendum to return a remain vote. 2 years of government bungling on how to leave the EU - it's a month away, and nobody knows what is going to happen - and the Labour party leadership adopting a roll over and play dead policy has brought this about.

[Varche]

I said it the minute a second referendum was mooted,

Here it is again.

Will we go back into the EU on the same terms? No

What will be the price?  Steep

Will we ever be trusted and respected again? No


I wonder if anyone will have learned from the last four years. For example what will the question be? Will the consequences of rejoining the EU we never left be spelt out without hysteria, project fear etcetc.

[aaronjb]

You're only wrong about one thing, Varche.. nobody respected or trusted us in the first place, so no change there!

[Doctor Gollum]

The only positive of staying in is that it will be much easier to emigrate to Spain/Canaries than once we have left...

[Sir Tigger KC]

I've thought for sometime now that we're watching a pantomime with May's 'negotiations' and there were two possible outcomes.

A)  Parliament votes for the 'deal' and we get BRINO on 29th March.  In the following trade talks during the 'Implementation Period' the EU make impossible demands and as the UK has agreed that the EU control the sequencing of the talks, the EU refuse to 'move on' until specific issues are agreed. Fishing rights for example.  On 31st December 2020 there is no agreement on a FTA and the UK goes into the 'Backstop'. TTIP talks are revived with the US and the EU agree that US chlorinated chicken can be sold in the UK.  The British press scream blue bloody murder, but the UK government are powerless to intervene.  A referendum on rejoining the EU is held and the question is Status Quo or Rejoin.  The UK votes to rejoin and the EU agrees to fast track the process...... with conditions.... no rebate, join the Euro and Shenghen.

B)  Parliament rejects May's deal.  Chaos ensues and to avoid the perceived disaster of leaving with no deal, Parliament votes to extend the A50 period.  The EU readily agrees, but refuses a short extension and demands that the UK stay until the end of the current financial framework which secures their money and on condition that Britain holds a second referendum.  The UK agrees but during the extension the EU is as inflexible and intransigent as ever and we approach December 2020 with no agreement in sight. The weary Brits vote remain in the second referendum and despite the ECJ's ruling that the UK can revoke A50 and remain in the EU without penalty, Britain comes under intense political pressure to relinquish the rebate in the Multi Annual Financial Framework talks.  Prime Minister Corbyn agrees to give up the rebate, Chancellor of the Exchequer McDonnell starts talks to take Britain into the Eurozone and on the day the Queen dies, Home Secretary Abbott quietly announces that Britain has signed up to the Shenghen agreement.

Voila! 

[Doctor Gollum]

Corbyn will never be PM. If elected, I suspect that he will be offed before taking office.

I would also start a petition for a second election because the first was obviously rigged.

[Bigron]

Why wait, DG - send him to God's departure lounge now!

Ron.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Corbyn will never be PM. If elected, I suspect that he will be offed before taking office.

I would also start a petition for a second election because the first was obviously rigged.

Some of what I wrote is obviously tongue in cheek, so don't get hung up on the details. 

The general theme is that I don't believe that the establishment will let Britain leave the EU.  There are dark forces at work with powerful people looking after their vested interests.   

[Varche]

Corbyn will never be PM. If elected, I suspect that he will be offed before taking office.

I would also start a petition for a second election because the first was obviously rigged.

Some of what I wrote is obviously tongue in cheek, so don't get hung up on the details. 

The general theme is that I don't believe that the establishment will let Britain leave the EU.  There are dark forces at work with powerful people looking after their vested interests.   

I said that on the day the results were announced. I would have bet £100 on it. I still believe the same.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

But apart from all of the above Brexit is going as planned.

We have the whip hand. ......it was in the script.