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[Nickbat]

..to be fitted in all cars from 2015. The idea is the car will then call the emergency services if it is involved in a crash. So, how will it know whether the crash is serious enough to need the emergency services? If your in an upturned vehicle with petrol dripping, do you wait in the car to speak to an operative? How does the claim opf cutting deaths by 50% satnd up? Surely that's just a figure plucked out of thin air. To be accurate, you'd have to work out how many people die because of a delay in speaking to the emergency services and/or not knowing their location. Don't suppose anyone has looked into that statistic.

So why bother with the expense?

Although the eCall service will be provided free of charge, the Commission expects the technology to be used for commercial purposes in future, such as tracking stolen vehicles or charging road tolls electronically.

Aha! The EU strikes again. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18677335

 

[Varche]

It is a racing certainty that auto road toll charging, auto fines for speeding, black box recorder for seconds before the accident etc will come into force. What surprises me is that it hasn't happened much earlier than now.

Google self driving cars, adaptive cruise control......

Drivers who actually enjoy driving will queue up to buy old obsolete cars that cannot be retro fitted with such technology. Mind you the government of the day could put a punitive tax on such "driver experience cars" to make them the domain of the wealthy only.

I am afraid that anyone born today onwards may never experience the absolute freedom we enjoyed unless they move to somewhere like Tashkent, Uraguay etc. 

[Kevin Wood]

Now, how are they going to fit it to my car?


Oh, that's right. Over my dead body.

[Rods2]

It will obviously be part of the law that the Government have complete access to the data for security reasons, so not only will they know which web sites you visit, the contents of all emails, and if you carry a mobile phone, where you are at anytime, but they will also know your complete driving movements.

Such a black box could be used to give you an annual C02 allowance with you having to buy further credits off those that have not used them to cap C02 emissions from cars. The Government would get their cut from these trades with stamp duty. This would just be an extension of the current EU carbon trading system and would be on top of hiring the road per mile.

1984 is rapidly arriving just 30 years later than expected.

All they need now is to have an id implant at birth (similar to that used on pets) with an EU ID number which is also linked to you NHS / Tax / Passport / Driving Licence Number / Full Personal Details and the ID also as a tattoo as phase one of the next level of control.

Phase 2 would be a personal health monitor, with fines for not doing minimum amounts of exercise etc.

Phase 3 will be you having to speak at all times into a government controlled PC correct word checked speech monitor to stop all offence to third parties and any derogatory remarks about the EU or the EU local government at Westminster. M15 and the Government will of course have full access to the raw speech recording and then is 1984 job done.

I'm sure the directives for these final moves are being considered and planned as I write this.

With taxation always increasing in our lifetime it will reach 100% (like it was in parts of the USSR), we will then be a full command economy run by the EU from Brussels, with them setting what you eat, drink and consume (for your own good health and minimum health car costs of course). This is the logical conclusion of the EU-French socialist model.

Fortunately, I will clear of the EU before all this happens. In the US the opposite is happening with the Tea Party movement being about restoring personal freedom and small Government.

[horsecow]

..to be fitted in all cars from 2015. The idea is the car will then call the emergency services if it is involved in a crash. So, how will it know whether the crash is serious enough to need the emergency services? If your in an upturned vehicle with petrol dripping, do you wait in the car to speak to an operative? How does the claim opf cutting deaths by 50% satnd up? Surely that's just a figure plucked out of thin air. To be accurate, you'd have to work out how many people die because of a delay in speaking to the emergency services and/or not knowing their location. Don't suppose anyone has looked into that statistic.

So why bother with the expense?

Although the eCall service will be provided free of charge, the Commission expects the technology to be used for commercial purposes in future, such as tracking stolen vehicles or charging road tolls electronically.[/highlight]

Aha! The EU strikes again. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18677335

 

In Republic of Ireland tolls are already charged electronically. Once your car goes thru the toll you have a set time to pay the toll or the bill is sent to your home, (pic taken of ur plate and then looked up). This even works across the border into the north and they will go to any length to collect this. The stupid thing is that its a private company doing this while the government agencies who look after the penalty points cant seem to work cross border. Not that I'm complaining I'd have no licence left if they could   

[Dishevelled Den]

Our Prime Minister has a message to all who may be concerned about these proposals;

[2woody]

..... it's because the EU beurocrats feel the need to excercise their power. It's nothing about what they think is good, or not.

to quote an MEP yesterday " drivers must get away from the feeliong that they have a right to drive "

[Martian]

Now, how are they going to fit it to my car?


Oh, that's right. Over my dead body.

The old lady doesn't have to become a corpse to allow them to fit any such device to her 1959 registered 750cc hardtailed Trumpet, the whole bike (inc electrical system) simply won't allow it to be feasible to start with 

[Vamps]

My boss was telling me today that her daughters car has just had such a device fitted, linked to insurance, and in an accident will call home, or something like that - tend not to listen to every thing she says....