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[Varche]

Good that they are now allowed to drove again after decades.

But from midnight? What a daft time - they would all be lagged up 

[biggriffin]

I await our lord opti's response,it will be measured and correct, and I fear Lizzie will disagree,,, Fight fight.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I await our lord opti's response,it will be measured and correct, and I fear Lizzie will disagree,,, Fight fight.

If I held the reins of power I would only allow women to drive if supervised by their husband. Women require guidance.

I would also limit women to cars of no more than 1100cc and producing no more than 50 BHP.

[Varche]

I await our lord opti's response,it will be measured and correct, and I fear Lizzie will disagree,,, Fight fight.

If I held the reins of power I would only allow women to drive if supervised by their husband. Women require guidance.

I would also limit women to cars of no more than 1100cc and producing no more than 50 BHP.

Is there such a thing?


A friend used to work as the accountant for a small Leicester company. He had a company BMW which workers could use if they needed to go somewhere on works business. Apparently it had a speed limiter which he used to leave on.

[aaronjb]

Is there such a thing?

Even the 1.0 Smart is putting out 71bhp now.. the previous gen 0.8 diesel was 54bhp, too.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Is there such a thing?

Even the 1.0 Smart is putting out 71bhp now.. the previous gen 0.8 diesel was 54bhp, too.

It goes without saying that the cars would need to be restricted in some way.

Even 50 BHP would be enough for a big shunt.

[aaronjb]

Is there such a thing?

Even the 1.0 Smart is putting out 71bhp now.. the previous gen 0.8 diesel was 54bhp, too.

It goes without saying that the cars would need to be restricted in some way.

Even 50 BHP would be enough for a big shunt.

I drove a last gen 1.0 Smart on Saturday - trust me, it would take a long time to wind it up fast enough! (Unless it was simply a dodgy example) The 1.0 Skoda CitiGo I drove on Sunday felt far peppier, though the manual gearbox might have helped, there.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Is there such a thing?

Even the 1.0 Smart is putting out 71bhp now.. the previous gen 0.8 diesel was 54bhp, too.

It goes without saying that the cars would need to be restricted in some way.

Even 50 BHP would be enough for a big shunt.

I drove a last gen 1.0 Smart on Saturday - trust me, it would take a long time to wind it up fast enough! (Unless it was simply a dodgy example) The 1.0 Skoda CitiGo I drove on Sunday felt far peppier, though the manual gearbox might have helped, there.

Don't even contemplate changing your car for one of these.

You're a long time dead.

[aaronjb]

At that point it was a possible car for L though she'll only have an auto license, and true to form, Skoda didn't have any cars to test drive that were of the actual spec we'd consider seems like they expect people to buy sight-unseen these days.

[Andy B]

Is there such a thing?

Even the 1.0 Smart is putting out 71bhp now.. the previous gen 0.8 diesel was 54bhp, too.

My Roadster is 700cc & produces 80bhp
My Fortwo is a turbo'd 1000cc & produces 84bhp   

[Doctor Gollum]

At that point it was a possible car for L though she'll only have an auto license, and true to form, Skoda didn't have any cars to test drive that were of the actual spec we'd consider seems like they expect people to buy sight-unseen these days.

It's all about upselling. You want a basic item of transport... Think Fiesta Popular 1.0

If they then take you out for a test drive in a 1.4 Ghia or an XR2 with aircon and a sunroof, the chances are, they will sell you a much more expensive car from stock than the one you actually want... And it's only £25 a week more

If they cannot provide a demonstrator in the spec you want, then you should be able to demand a hefty discount... Like, I don't know, waiving the Superb exit penalties

Good luck with that, but don't ask etc, etc...

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

At that point it was a possible car for L though she'll only have an auto license, and true to form, Skoda didn't have any cars to test drive that were of the actual spec we'd consider seems like they expect people to buy sight-unseen these days.

Well, you couldn't possibly expect them to fudge their production numbers in order to have a demonstrator fleet...

The automatic automobile is like a gift from the Gods for any girlie.

No clutch.....no gears. So no need to be in the correct gear. Much more time to apply their 'lippy' as they drive.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Is there such a thing?

Even the 1.0 Smart is putting out 71bhp now.. the previous gen 0.8 diesel was 54bhp, too.

My Roadster is 700cc & produces 80bhp
My Fortwo is a turbo'd 1000cc & produces 84bhp   

84 BHP from 1000 cc Turbo. ......not overly impressive.

In the bike world they manage 200 BHP per litre without a turbo.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I thought the idea was to promote progress in Saudi ? 

[Nick W]

Is there such a thing?

Even the 1.0 Smart is putting out 71bhp now.. the previous gen 0.8 diesel was 54bhp, too.

My Roadster is 700cc & produces 80bhp
My Fortwo is a turbo'd 1000cc & produces 84bhp   

84 BHP from 1000 cc Turbo. ......not overly impressive.

In the bike world they manage 200 BHP per litre without a turbo.

Try that 200hp in a  vehicle that weighs more than 300kg loaded and you'll realise that how the power(torque actually) is generated is important.

[biggriffin]

Is there such a thing?

Even the 1.0 Smart is putting out 71bhp now.. the previous gen 0.8 diesel was 54bhp, too.

It goes without saying that the cars would need to be restricted in some way.

Even 50 BHP would be enough for a big shunt.

.

Play on words, 

[Lizzie Zoom]

At that point it was a possible car for L though she'll only have an auto license, and true to form, Skoda didn't have any cars to test drive that were of the actual spec we'd consider seems like they expect people to buy sight-unseen these days.

Well, you couldn't possibly expect them to fudge their production numbers in order to have a demonstrator fleet...

The automatic automobile is like a gift from the Gods for any girlie.

No clutch.....no gears. So no need to be in the correct gear. Much more time to apply their 'lippy' as they drive.

 

Real women like me can drive vehicles requiring double de-clutching, as woman did during the two wars when in charge of army and other lorries.  Our brains have the sensitivity to judge the sound of the engine and revs to move between gears without a sync gearbox

As for Saudi, I and other women of the world will only celebrate when the women who protested and fought for this change in the law are realised from prison.  It is disgusting that we in the west are still trading with this country that denies so many, men and women, their due human rights.

[Varche]

At that point it was a possible car for L though she'll only have an auto license, and true to form, Skoda didn't have any cars to test drive that were of the actual spec we'd consider seems like they expect people to buy sight-unseen these days.

Well, you couldn't possibly expect them to fudge their production numbers in order to have a demonstrator fleet...

The automatic automobile is like a gift from the Gods for any girlie.

No clutch.....no gears. So no need to be in the correct gear. Much more time to apply their 'lippy' as they drive.

 

Real women like me can drive vehicles requiring double de-clutching, as woman did during the two wars when in charge of army and other lorries.  Our brains have the sensitivity to judge the sound of the engine and revs to move between gears without a sync gearbox

As for Saudi, I and other women of the world will only celebrate when the women who protested and fought for this change in the law are realised from prison.  It is disgusting that we in the west are still trading with this country that denies so many, men and women, their due human rights.

Spot on. Worse still, the West is fighting a proxy war with Iran in Yemen by supporting the Saudis. very little in our media  about the plight of the ordinary Yemenis or indeed the continued suffering in Syria with the latest bombings- this time in the south

Forgot to add. Saudi women still have to have permission from a man to get a passport or leave the country. Plus of course permission from a man to get married. The new ruler is doing alright in his efforts to modernise. Lets hope he keeps it up.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

At that point it was a possible car for L though she'll only have an auto license, and true to form, Skoda didn't have any cars to test drive that were of the actual spec we'd consider seems like they expect people to buy sight-unseen these days.

Well, you couldn't possibly expect them to fudge their production numbers in order to have a demonstrator fleet...

The automatic automobile is like a gift from the Gods for any girlie.

No clutch.....no gears. So no need to be in the correct gear. Much more time to apply their 'lippy' as they drive.

 

Real women like me can drive vehicles requiring double de-clutching, as woman did during the two wars when in charge of army and other lorries.  Our brains have the sensitivity to judge the sound of the engine and revs to move between gears without a sync gearbox

As for Saudi, I and other women of the world will only celebrate when the women who protested and fought for this change in the law are realised from prison.  It is disgusting that we in the west are still trading with this country that denies so many, men and women, their due human rights.

Spot on. Worse still, the West is fighting a proxy war with Iran in Yemen by supporting the Saudis. very little in our media  about the plight of the ordinary Yemenis or indeed the continued suffering in Syria with the latest bombings- this time in the south

Forgot to add. Saudi women still have to have permission from a man to get a passport or leave the country. Plus of course permission from a man to get married. The new ruler is doing alright in his efforts to modernise. Lets hope he keeps it up.

We sell Saudi a shit load of weapons........so we look the other way on this one.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

If we stopped doing business with everyone who didn't agree with our standards on human rights, we would all starve. 

[Doctor Gollum]

If we stopped doing business with everyone who didn't agree with our standards on human rights, we would all starve. 

Tru Dat...

Besides, people bitch an moan about places like Turkey or Morocco, yet are more than happy to go there on holiday

We're nothing if not fickle

[biggriffin]

If we stopped doing business with everyone who didn't agree with our standards on human rights, we would all starve. 

Tru Dat...

Besides, people bitch an moan about places like Turkey or Morocco, yet are more than happy to go there on holiday

We're nothing if not fickle

The word hypocrisy springs to mind.

[Doctor Gollum]

You would need to be certifiable to truly avoid having a commercial relationship with the shittier parts of the world.

That's to say living in complete isolation eating only what you could catch or grow... And speaking only to people you actually encounter.

[Rods2]

Is there such a thing?

Even the 1.0 Smart is putting out 71bhp now.. the previous gen 0.8 diesel was 54bhp, too.

My Roadster is 700cc & produces 80bhp
My Fortwo is a turbo'd 1000cc & produces 84bhp   

84 BHP from 1000 cc Turbo. ......not overly impressive.

In the bike world they manage 200 BHP per litre without a turbo.

And the rest 2018 Kawasaki ZX10R 210bhp. Some things in life you can't have too much of: Sex, love, good luck, good health, money but most important of all bhp.

[BazaJT]

Many bhp's is nice,but you can have a heck of a lot of fun with little power-a 2CV for example can be a hoot to drive and can teach a lot about momentum and how to keep it.As for Saudi Arabia I say give the guy a chance he's trying to drag his country forward which can be no easy task.