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[2boxerdogs]

Just been reading about the case concerning the Shoreham air disaster, apparently the pilot doesn't remember anything about it ! Probably deny being there next , spineless individual in my opinion.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

It certainly didn't end well.

I mean, what are the odds of being 'snuffed out' that way?

[2boxerdogs]

It certainly didn't end well.

I mean, what are the odds of being 'snuffed out' that way?

He did it no doubt about it why not " man up" and be truthful , can't abide liars & cowards & he is certainly both.

[Lizzie Zoom]

In fairness to him it is a medical fact that the human brain can wipe out all memory of a major trauma.

Crashing in a Hawker Hunter at great speed must count as one of those occasions, so do not judge him on that alone.

[Keith ABS]

 Yea right. Cant remember after the outcome of that one after being reported for previous dangerous manouvers at another air show

[STEMO]

Doesn't really matter what he remembers, he's going down.

[Doctor Gollum]

In fairness to him it is a medical fact that the human brain can wipe out all memory of a major trauma.

Crashing in a Hawker Hunter at great speed must count as one of those occasions, so do not judge him on that alone.

Nah, he's guilty as charged... Wreckless stunt performed too low with too little airspeed.

Hiding behind memory loss when all the facts and evidence put him in the seat at the time is to effectively deny all responsibility without having to admit responsibility even to himself...

The longer he effectively denies it, the worse it will be when it does sink in.

He should man the opps up and accept that he IS responsible at take what's coming. Be better for the victims families too.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I would be amazed if he could remember it. Most people who have had a major physical impact don't remember it.
I spent a very long time, trying to remember the one I had but my memory stopped a second or two before impact. Don't know why but it seemed very important to me at the time that I should be able to remember it.
To this day, I would like to see a video of it, although I imagine it would be extremely shocking if I could.
He was in charge of the aircraft and people were killed, so unless circumstances beyond his control can be demonstrated, then he has to be held responsible imo.

[henryd]

I'm more surprised  that he survived the crash than that he cant remember it,doesnt matter as already said he was the pilot and he  oppsed up bigtime

[ronnyd]

To me, it puts him in a similar class to the spineless t@sser who killed his date in a speedboat on Thames. He then buggered off to Albania, or somewhere like that, before his trial started.

[Kevin Wood]

I think the ground and almost certain death looming through the canopy at 300 knots, and the trauma that followed, would be more than enough to make his memory of the events impossible to recall.

Claiming that he had blacked out might be pushing it. There are pretty clear signs in the video that the pilot pulled back quite hard at the point it became obvious that it had all gone to pot.

I'm not sure what he would be expected to say if he has no recollection of the events?

The facts are that he was the commander of the aircraft and untimately responsible for putting it in the position in which it ended up, barring any mechanical failures.

[Doctor Gollum]

The only mechanical failure was an interface one... With form for being wreckless.

[Entwood]

Shoreham Pilot Mr Andy Hill acquitted

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-47495885

I'm saying nowt ...

[2boxerdogs]

Disgraceful outcome , feel very sorry for the families involved certainly no justice for them.

[ronnyd]

Will the families now go for a private prosecution?

[Lizzie Zoom]

I really feel for those who have lost loved ones. In this instance during an air show, but also throughout our time on this planet.

However, we are ALL human beings; flawed in so many ways, that often affects the people around us.  We live a life full of risk, and no matter what we do accidents / incidents if you like will happen.  Wars cost millions of lives. The likes of the Glenfell Tower disaster, the Hillsbough disaster cost far less lives, but are no less traumatic for those that lost loved ones. What these, and others cases were even one person is killed, can just be down to human failings.

We are not talking about delibarate acts of violence, like terrorist actions, although they COULD be done to human weakness, stupidity and illness. Accidents like Shoreham could of course be avoided, if, maybe, somehow, etc, etc, us humans could always act without error or evil.  But the truth is we are damn right flawed; always have been always will be.

So Andy Hill could have been jailed. But in an age where someone can drink, drive, have no insurance, no licence, and kill someone but get, after all is worked out by our poor justice system, 4 years actual time to be served, what good would a jail sentence for a human who made a terrible mistake or just became ill whilst flying an old jet, do? Make everyone feel better? Maybe, but it will NEVER bring back the 11.

In short we live lives that will terminate at some time. Maybe tomorrow, maybe in 95 years time. Our life is never guaranteed. In addition we are who we are; we love taking risks at one level or another. We would live boring, pointless lives if we didn't. Then to add to the mix we love mucking around with machines of all types, new and old, fascinated by the speed they do or how they can be pushed to the limit of the performance parameters, like with the old Hawker Hunter jet.

We are going to have accidents or absolute disasters. But we could stop that possibility. We could pass legislation to ban all risk, all competitive spirit, and for only computers to be allowed to control everything around us to stop all possibility of death..............

Oh, hang on we would still die from illness or natural causes by staying in a chair all day and "keeping safe".  Is that what we want? Well I certainly do not. Let me die as a living, breathing, taking risks, human being.

[Doctor Gollum]

"Not talking about deliberate acts..."

He didn't accidentally fly the aircraft into that maneuver...

But we won't let the facts get in the way of a decent self pity party 

[2boxerdogs]

Saw the pilot on the news this evening didn't look like a broken man to me, probably out now celebrating .

[BazaJT]

He was found not guilty of the crime for which he was charged.I think that had the charge been worded differently[possibly making it less severe?]then he'd have been found guilty as he should have been.

[Lizzie Zoom]

"Not talking about deliberate acts..."

He didn't accidentally fly the aircraft into that maneuver...

But we won't let the facts get in the way of a decent self pity party 

A jury, who have listened to the specialists qualified to advice on the many aspects of this case, and were aware of extensive evidence about what actually happened, found him not guilty.

For us not in that court throughout this case can not make any further meaningful judgement.

[Doctor Gollum]

"Not talking about deliberate acts..."

He didn't accidentally fly the aircraft into that maneuver...

But we won't let the facts get in the way of a decent self pity party 

A jury, who have listened to the specialists qualified to advice on the many aspects of this case, and were aware of extensive evidence about what actually happened, found him not guilty.

For us not in that court throughout this case can not make any further meaningful judgement.

Not possible if the AAIB findings were inadmissible

Which is almost as convenient as memory loss, especially when the only fault with the aircraft was the person flying it.

[2boxerdogs]

The pilot in my eyes is the lowest of the low ,not a man he is pure scum who should have been jailed, he took innocent lives by behaving like a c**t.

[Kevin Wood]

Not possible if the AAIB findings were inadmissible

Which is almost as convenient as memory loss, especially when the only fault with the aircraft was the person flying it.

The AIIB are there to improve safety not apportion responsibility. If they immediately turned over everything they learnt to the courts / police at the first sign of litigation, I'm guessing they'd get minimal support from the stakeholders they rely on. Has always been thus.

Besides, the AAIB report contains very little of interest other than that the aircraft did what it did by manipulation of the controls rather than bits falling off it. Something that I'm sure the evidence presented to the trial will have independently established.

[Doctor Gollum]

Apparently the jury didn't see it that way