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First service work on the VW
« on: 26 September 2016, 15:00:49 »

To say I was sh*tting myself was an understatement,  with the Omega's they are worth sod all and I was so used to them. So when working on the new car, I was very nervous. But it needed a service, as book says it was done about every 17k.

Also most modern cars look a bit of a nightmare to work on, one thing I liked about the VW is everything appeared easy access, at least for basic service work. I've previously unclipped the washer jets, from the bonnet to check and clean them as one had weak flow. Nice and easy, all unclipped very simply, for straight forward removal.

Got bits from ECP, air filter, pollen filter, oil filter and 5L of 5w30 Fully Synth for £49, went middle of the road "MANN Filters"



Bonnet lifted and feeling nervous...



Decided to start with nice easy air filter, about 8 torx screws, simply unscrew and whole airbox lifts up.





Old one did need replacing...



Now the pattern part debate!  :D - When I lived at home, with Vx just around the corner and Trade Club, it was a no-brainer. Now I've got my own place in Surrey, with ECP just down end of my road, so easy to get bits.

Here is the genuine filter, next to the pattern one. I can see no difference apart from an extra run of glue, I've previously serviced Omega's were the old filter was hugely different to the genuine, with much shorter elements. But this one is identical.



Next up the oil filter, I pulled off engine cover, initially it looked a nightmare....



But quickly discovered if I removed this...




Access was easy...



Next up was the pollen filter, these easily unscrew from underneath the glove box, to remove this foam.



Which allowed the cover to the filter to simply unclip...



Filter easily replaced, all in sub 5 minute job.



Being a diesel, the oil went black straight away  ;D



I forgot to take photos of the oil extraction process, only mistake I made was not getting the oil hot enough. I warmed it from cold, the temp gauge did rise. But next time I'll take it for a drive to get to full temp, then let it cool a bit so the oil is much thinner.

So compared to the Omega? Well it's about the same really, nothing hugely difficult at-all. I need to perfect the oil extraction method, but once that's done, should be nice and easy to do quicker oil changes.


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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #1 on: 26 September 2016, 15:02:48 »

Next up is rear brake pads and fuel filter, but want to invest in some software to do this first.

So since the bike is no longer in the garage  :'( - Time to sort things out with a computer setup in there.  :)
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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #2 on: 26 September 2016, 17:12:41 »

Well done :y
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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #3 on: 26 September 2016, 18:25:41 »

I think you're competent enough now to deal with most basic servicing on most cars :y

The Passat is fairly straightforward, and layout similar to the majority of cars for access.

Mann filters are fine, no issues at all with them (Omega air filter isn't qute as good, but its better than many).

You still paid too much. ECP are expensive, even with offers.
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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #4 on: 26 September 2016, 18:49:21 »

Mann is OEM for many manufacturers.
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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #5 on: 26 September 2016, 18:54:15 »

Tunnie. Hats off to you. Wasn't that long ago that your name attracted some derogatory student tags etc.

Now it is

#TunnieVolksRocks

Anyway joking apart. can the mods start a VW maintenance section......
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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #6 on: 26 September 2016, 20:32:47 »

Wasn't that long ago that your name attracted some derogatory student tags etc.
He'll always be the useless student ;D
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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #7 on: 26 September 2016, 20:33:45 »

Mann is OEM for many manufacturers.
What they make for manufacturers, and what they are allowed to sell in the aftermarket sector are usually very different...
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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #8 on: 26 September 2016, 20:48:22 »

Mann is OEM for many manufacturers.
What they make for manufacturers, and what they are allowed to sell in the aftermarket sector are usually very different...

Have you ever got a quote for a manufacturer to tear down a machine setup for a short run of custom goods? The likelihood of a company like Mann having two entirely different specs for even simple parts like air filters is tiny. Nor is it uncommon for the QC on their own branded products to be better than other customers are prepared to pay for.

As I've said before, none of the five air filters I've used have had any obvious differences beyond an extra ridge of glue. These are parts that would require some seriously specialist equipment to determine if any differences are actually 'better.' That would be a test of how well and for how long it filters dirt, and how much air it flows at the same time, which are conflicting requirements. These are usually balanced by fitting as big a filter as there is space for, which is the case with Omega filters, and by changing them frequently. Which isn't a hardship for a £5 part.
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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #9 on: 26 September 2016, 20:48:54 »

Wasn't that long ago that your name attracted some derogatory student tags etc.
He'll always be the useless student ;D

Never shake that off  ;D
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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #10 on: 26 September 2016, 20:53:49 »

Have you ever got a quote for a manufacturer to tear down a machine setup for a short run of custom goods? The likelihood of a company like Mann having two entirely different specs for even simple parts like air filters is tiny.
I am aware of some of the legal crap they have to agree  to to supply parts.  For the most part, the motor manufacturer supplies the spec, and they make it for the motor manufacturer. Usually, they are NOT allowed to put that same item in different packaging, and sell it into the aftermarket channel.
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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #11 on: 26 September 2016, 20:59:33 »

I could really see no difference, size of the elements (width/depth). The rubber edging, it was identical bar the 3rd run of glue.

Oh the price was different, £7.70 vs £19.50 from VW :)
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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #12 on: 26 September 2016, 21:28:03 »

Well done Tunnie  :y
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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #13 on: 27 September 2016, 08:56:28 »

Thanks all, have confidence to do some more jobs on it now.
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Re: First service work on the VW
« Reply #14 on: 27 September 2016, 10:38:17 »

Next up is rear brake pads and fuel filter, but want to invest in some software to do this first.

So since the bike is no longer in the garage  :'( - Time to sort things out with a computer setup in there.  :)

Just a warning Tunnie,if you didn't drain the oil via the bung a vacumn extractor will not get it all out on that engine,the older PD engines would drain completely but the newer ones leave about a litre remaining :y
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