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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: STEMO on 22 October 2019, 15:49:47
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I'm half thinking about changing my astra, have been for a while now. I want another estate, diesel, auto. Looking on the trader, I came across a nice looking 64 plate jaaaaaaag. XF 2.2 TD Sportbrake auto. Then I got to the tech specs. It's less powerful (both bhp and torque) than my astra and is slower to 60! It's even got the green and red sport badge on the rear and steering wheel. :o
Disappointed.
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An XFR-S sportbrake might fit the bill.
Petrol......obviously. :y
Sadly most are a horrible shade of French blue.
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https://youtu.be/goReWJ3MjVE (https://youtu.be/goReWJ3MjVE)
There you go. All sorted now. :y
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https://youtu.be/goReWJ3MjVE (https://youtu.be/goReWJ3MjVE)
There you go. All sorted now. :y
0 to 60 mph in 4.6 secs and top end of 186mph ..... and they asked questions in Parliament when Vauxhall released the Lotus Carlton! ;D ;D
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https://youtu.be/goReWJ3MjVE (https://youtu.be/goReWJ3MjVE)
There you go. All sorted now. :y
0 to 60 mph in 4.6 secs and top end of 186mph ..... and they asked questions in Parliament when Vauxhall released the Lotus Carlton! ;D ;D
So much for progress ;D
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Well...this 2.2 diesel is not even as quick as my astra, as I said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201910173403723?sort=relevance&advertising-location=at_cars&transmission=Automatic&keywords=Sportbrake&postcode=s728dw&make=JAGUAR&radius=80&price-from=500&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&fuel-type=Diesel&page=1
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There is a 200bhp version, though ::)
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Well...this 2.2 diesel is not even as quick as my astra, as I said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201910173403723?sort=relevance&advertising-location=at_cars&transmission=Automatic&keywords=Sportbrake&postcode=s728dw&make=JAGUAR&radius=80&price-from=500&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&fuel-type=Diesel&page=1
Pop the back seat down and you have a hearse. :)
The diesel drone will cover the sound of the crying relatives.
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I suspect my 4 pot turbo petrol jag would have Sir Lyons spinning in his grave so do the old chap a favour and banish any thoughts about getting a soot chucker. ::)
As you've probably found, the R sport badge is just a trim level. Oxymoron models are available. :y
That said, I'd bet the overall driving experience would make the Astra seem quite agricultural notwithstanding the performance on paper. ;D
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I suspect my 4 pot turbo petrol jag would have Sir Lyons spinning in his grave so do the old chap a favour and banish any thoughts about getting a soot chucker. ::)
As you've probably found, the R sport badge is just a trim level. Oxymoron models are available. :y
That said, I'd bet the overall driving experience would make the Astra seem quite agricultural notwithstanding the performance on paper. ;D
Agreed, chalk and cheese. I just can't see the point in anyone buying such a weedy jag.
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Still a Jaaaag innit! :y
And the neighbours would be impressed.... ::) ;D
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Still a Jaaaag innit! :y
And the neighbours would be impressed.... ::) ;D
Nah. The Asian lad from the corner shop would laugh at it. He's got an AMG 63.
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Still a Jaaaag innit! :y
And the neighbours would be impressed.... ::) ;D
Nah. The Asian lad from the corner shop would laugh at it. He's got an AMG 63.
Must have sold a shit load of drugs to afford that. :)
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Can't beat a good stereotype... ::)
;D
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Can't beat a good stereotype... ::)
;D
;D ;D
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Agreed, chalk and cheese. I just can't see the point in anyone buying such a weedy jag.
Company car tax rates, I imagine - at least that's the reason the dealer gave to me for the base model diesel engine & spec being the most popular at the time, was (this was a few years back)..
Can't beat a good stereotype... ::)
;D
He lives in Barnsley, they're all honest as the day is long, up there. If it was Rotherham, on the other hand... ;D
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Looking into the future (or the present, really) the 'sad' Chevy Bolt does the 0-60 dashin 6.5 seconds, the 'lardy SUV' Jag i-pace in 4.5 and the 'big fat saloon' Teslas in as little as 2.4 seconds!
I actually wonder if in all real terms the idea of choosing a car on how fast / responsive etc it is will actually effectively become a thing of the past. All of the above wipe the floor with a 3.0 Omega as does many a 4 cylinder hatchback of today. That's the problem with buying a 'fast' car - it's a constantly sliding scale.
There's a dozen other reasons to buy a car - running costs, looks and not to mention the feel of the interior and driving experience - all of those I'm tempted to say a Jag is second to none. And that feel doesn't ever date, a gorgeous interior with nice features is still a gorgeous interior 30 years later. If you like the car, right feel, right price, etc how much does the engine really matter? Just playing devil's advocate :)
(https://external-preview.redd.it/8zOCrvaFKUL2hKQ9Ps9Wgv5qGVVWa1iP0eAD6HhWmuU.jpg?auto=webp&s=7bfb99cea3f48138d8f5361104159ed123adaf77)
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I suspect my 4 pot turbo petrol jag would have Sir Lyons spinning in his grave so do the old chap a favour and banish any thoughts about getting a soot chucker. ::)
As you've probably found, the R sport badge is just a trim level. Oxymoron models are available. :y
That said, I'd bet the overall driving experience would make the Astra seem quite agricultural notwithstanding the performance on paper. ;D
Agreed, chalk and cheese. I just can't see the point in anyone buying such a weedy jag.
The small XK engined Jags or 2.5l Daimlers were hardly fireballs. Jags were always intended to be effortless; the bigger engined ones did that in addition to being fast.
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I suspect my 4 pot turbo petrol jag would have Sir Lyons spinning in his grave so do the old chap a favour and banish any thoughts about getting a soot chucker. ::)
As you've probably found, the R sport badge is just a trim level. Oxymoron models are available. :y
That said, I'd bet the overall driving experience would make the Astra seem quite agricultural notwithstanding the performance on paper. ;D
Agreed, chalk and cheese. I just can't see the point in anyone buying such a weedy jag.
The small XK engined Jags or 2.5l Daimlers were hardly fireballs. Jags were always intended to be effortless; the bigger engined ones did that in addition to being fast.
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A diesel Jag just doesn't do it for me.
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Agreed, chalk and cheese. I just can't see the point in anyone buying such a weedy jag.
Company car tax rates, I imagine - at least that's the reason the dealer gave to me for the base model diesel engine & spec being the most popular at the time, was (this was a few years back)..
Can't beat a good stereotype... ::)
;D
He lives in Barnsley, they're all honest as the day is long, up there. If it was Rotherham, on the other hand... ;D
Too much time pimping vulnerable underage girls for money. Don't have time to sell drugs. The police looked the other way. :-X
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Well...this 2.2 diesel is not even as quick as my astra, as I said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201910173403723?sort=relevance&advertising-location=at_cars&transmission=Automatic&keywords=Sportbrake&postcode=s728dw&make=JAGUAR&radius=80&price-from=500&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&fuel-type=Diesel&page=1
125000 miles.....so probably 'donald ducked'
There will be black babies falling out of trees in Africa every time that is started. :)
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You can tell how polluting the car is by the tax. That one is £125pa.....yours is? ::)
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Or should I say.......yours are? ;D
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That must really boil your piss.....over £1000 to tax two cars. ;D ;D ;D
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I know you're there. Go on........cry ;D
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That must really boil your piss.....over £1000 to tax two cars. ;D ;D ;D
Yes.....it does boil my piss.
It's actually almost £1200 not £1000. :-\
I suppose it's worth it to keep a future classic like the Signum alive. :)
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That must really boil your piss.....over £1000 to tax two cars. ;D ;D ;D
Yes.....it does boil my piss.
It's actually almost £1200 not £1000. :-\
I suppose it's worth it to keep a future classic like the Signum alive. :)
You could buy a decent sigmund with that
I'm loving this ;D
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I suspect my 4 pot turbo petrol jag would have Sir Lyons spinning in his grave so do the old chap a favour and banish any thoughts about getting a soot chucker. ::)
As you've probably found, the R sport badge is just a trim level. Oxymoron models are available. :y
That said, I'd bet the overall driving experience would make the Astra seem quite agricultural notwithstanding the performance on paper. ;D
The voice of sanity. :)
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I suspect my 4 pot turbo petrol jag would have Sir Lyons spinning in his grave so do the old chap a favour and banish any thoughts about getting a soot chucker. ::)
As you've probably found, the R sport badge is just a trim level. Oxymoron models are available. :y
That said, I'd bet the overall driving experience would make the Astra seem quite agricultural notwithstanding the performance on paper. ;D
The voice of sanity. :)
Reposting oldies. Can't you stick up for yourself, lad? ;D
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That must really boil your piss.....over £1000 to tax two cars. ;D ;D ;D
Yes.....it does boil my piss.
It's actually almost £1200 not £1000. :-\
I suppose it's worth it to keep a future classic like the Signum alive. :)
You could buy a decent sigmund with that
I'm loving this ;D
The majority run on derv so have little value. The 2.8 Turbo V6 petrol being the exception (if you can find one) :)
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That must really boil your piss.....over £1000 to tax two cars. ;D ;D ;D
Yes.....it does boil my piss.
It's actually almost £1200 not £1000. :-\
I suppose it's worth it to keep a future classic like the Signum alive. :)
You could buy a decent sigmund with that
I'm loving this ;D
The majority run on derv so have little value. The 2.8 Turbo V6 petrol being the exception (if you can find one) :)
Of course you can't find one. Have you seen the road tax on them? ;D
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That must really boil your piss.....over £1000 to tax two cars. ;D ;D ;D
Yes.....it does boil my piss.
It's actually almost £1200 not £1000. :-\
I suppose it's worth it to keep a future classic like the Signum alive. :)
You could buy a decent sigmund with that
I'm loving this ;D
The majority run on derv so have little value. The 2.8 Turbo V6 petrol being the exception (if you can find one) :)
Of course you can't find one. Have you seen the road tax on them? ;D
Of course he hasn't! ::) He has 'people' who take care of minor details like that sort of thing. :)
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That must really boil your piss.....over £1000 to tax two cars. ;D ;D ;D
Yes.....it does boil my piss.
It's actually almost £1200 not £1000. :-\
I suppose it's worth it to keep a future classic like the Signum alive. :)
You could buy a decent sigmund with that
I'm loving this ;D
The majority run on derv so have little value. The 2.8 Turbo V6 petrol being the exception (if you can find one) :)
Here's one for little more than your annual tax:
https://www.freeads.co.uk/uk/buy-sell/motors/cars/vauxhall/35890155/vauxhall-vectra-v6-turbo-2009-low-71k-sept-mot/view?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=newsnow&utm_campaign=Motors
Oops, sorry, that's the superior vectra. :)
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Nice motor for the money. :)
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Why do leather seats in some higher milers look like soggy sacks?
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Why do leather seats in some higher milers look like soggy sacks?
Crap materials and crap owners ;)
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Still a Jaaaag innit! :y
And the neighbours would be impressed.... ::) ;D
Nah. The Asian lad from the corner shop would laugh at it. He's got an AMG 63.
Must be a cornershop owners car, as my local has AMG63 too.
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My local "cornershop" owner recently swapped his Range Rover for a W12 Bentley saloon!
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My local "cornershop" owner recently swapped his Range Rover for a W12 Bentley saloon!
There's money in selling fake vodka and counterfeit fags. :)
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Or using a corner shop as a front for drug running, and or money laundering.
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surely the multiple fake social security claims from the shop is enough to run a thirsty Merc without the need to subsidize it with black market sales or such like :-\
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Must be a cornershop owners car, as my local has AMG63 too.
Every bugger around these parts run AMG badged Mercs, and drive like all Merc drivers (ie, gormless).
I suspect most aren't real AMGs, just a trim pack, like BMW's M-Sport, Audi's S-Line and so on. But them most Merc owners seem to struggle with the power they have* in their weedy, underpowered diesels, so probably just as well they don't have proper ones ;D
*Or have come to realise how poor the C/E class chassis is, and have already shat themselves.
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I'm half thinking about changing my astra, have been for a while now. I want another estate, diesel, auto. Looking on the trader, I came across a nice looking 64 plate jaaaaaaag. XF 2.2 TD Sportbrake auto. Then I got to the tech specs. It's less powerful (both bhp and torque) than my astra and is slower to 60! It's even got the green and red sport badge on the rear and steering wheel. :o
Disappointed.
That old 2.2 diesel also has a reputation for getting nowhere near its claimed MPG. The XF saloon is the same weight as the Omega at 1.8t, not sure without looking on the weight of the Estate. Its a bit underpowered. Clearly, if it must be a soot chucker, the V6 diesel is the one to have. Actually, the V6 -S badged ones.
Beware, the early 8 speed ZF gearboxes are known to be weak (much like the early 6 speed ZF), and on the XF, around 2012 is the changeover point to 8 speed.
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Clearly, if it must be a soot chucker, the V6 diesel is the one to have. Actually, the V6 -S badged ones.
The non S V6 soot chucker is 235ish bhp
The S V6 soot chucker is 275ish bhp (up to about 2016ish, when it became 300)
Tax is the same, claimed economy is the same. Why would anyone buy the half-arsed one? The more powerful one has 600Nm of torque as well, which will rip the tarmac from the road.
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Must be a cornershop owners car, as my local has AMG63 too.
Every bugger around these parts run AMG badged Mercs, and drive like all Merc drivers (ie, gormless).
I suspect most aren't real AMGs, just a trim pack, like BMW's M-Sport, Audi's S-Line and so on. But them most Merc owners seem to struggle with the power they have* in their weedy, underpowered diesels, so probably just as well they don't have proper ones ;D
*Or have come to realise how poor the C/E class chassis is, and have already shat themselves.
Most of them are in their senior years, so this isn't something they are unaccustomed to. ;)
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Clearly, if it must be a soot chucker, the V6 diesel is the one to have. Actually, the V6 -S badged ones.
The non S V6 soot chucker is 235ish bhp
The S V6 soot chucker is 275ish bhp (up to about 2016ish, when it became 300)
Tax is the same, claimed economy is the same. Why would anyone buy the half-arsed one? The more powerful one has 600Nm of torque as well, which will rip the tarmac from the road.
This is the problem, the only XF you can buy in my view is the XF-S. I sat in a few of the latest shapes XF's but the lower spec R-Sport or 2.0 ones did not have much adjustment in the seats, no electrical tilt.
The XF-S has more adjustment in the seats (no doubt an option on others) but makes it harder to find examples.
You need to spend £17-20k ish to get something half decent.
The seats in the SRi Mummy bus (MV6 cloth style) were far more supportive than any of the Jaaaags.
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
Yep......although once set you never use the millions of combinations available.
Much like the washing machine. It has about 20 setting but 19 have probably never been used.
Put the clock right this afternoon. Much like the satnav it is powered by coal or steam. :-\
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Put the clock right this afternoon. Much like the satnav it is powered by coal or steam. :-\
Cant fault the Nav in mine, but the clock is inexcusable.
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
But your short arse, properly sized people like me at 6ft5 find most seats lacking in thigh support.
The extending front part in the SRI trim, are very comfortable and supportive.
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
But your short arse, properly sized people like me at 6ft5 find most seats lacking in thigh support.
The extending front part in the SRI trim, are very comfortable and supportive.
No, Lanky, I'm normal. In every way.
;D
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For proper seats full memory beats partial electric beats manual.
The Zafira isn't comfortable because of the seats per se, but rather the relative vertical distance between the thigh and the floor.
This is one of the larger disappointments of the Trolley. The seat is no higher off the floor than the Omega.
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
But your short arse, properly sized people like me at 6ft5 find most seats lacking in thigh support.
The extending front part in the SRI trim, are very comfortable and supportive.
No, Lanky, I'm normal. In every way.
;D
In other news flying pigs just took off from my close. ;D
Seriously though, I put these seats on par with Elite cloth. Huge drives to Ireland and back and no issues with back pain , super comfy.
Hence I kept it for myself.
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
But your short arse, properly sized people like me at 6ft5 find most seats lacking in thigh support.
The extending front part in the SRI trim, are very comfortable and supportive.
No, Lanky, I'm normal. In every way.
;D
This is why I like having the base of the Elite seat tilted so I sit / sink into it and it takes the slack up in my legs! I can get the perfect driving position in an Elite, the same can't be said for Mrs VXL's Astra.
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Again, the difference between being able to adjust the seat almost infinitely vs 3/4" spaced notches :y
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
But your short arse, properly sized people like me at 6ft5 find most seats lacking in thigh support.
The extending front part in the SRI trim, are very comfortable and supportive.
No, Lanky, I'm normal. In every way.
;D
This is why I like having the base of the Elite seat tilted so I sit / sink into it and it takes the slack up in my legs! I can get the perfect driving position in an Elite, the same can't be said for Mrs VXL's Astra.
I have mine adjusted the same way and it suits me just right.
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The seats in the XE are great (10 way memory) and in the Velar better still (20 way memory with cooling, heating and massage, probably the same as TBs given JLR have used Lear for seating for years).
For us, memory is essential, due to Er-indoors random driving position in full munchkin mode
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The seats in the XE are great (10 way memory) and in the Velar better still (20 way memory with cooling, heating and massage, probably the same as TBs given JLR have used Lear for seating for years).
For us, memory is essential, due to Er-indoors random driving position in full munchkin mode
Massage seats .. do they come with a happy ending?
I've never been bothered about memory seats before, but now the OH is also driving the Range Rover they are rather useful .. I only just fit between the seat and the steering wheel after she's been driving it ;D ;D
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My Omega had the memory seats and at the time didn't realise how handy the memory part was. The R Class had electric seats doing every thing electric but no memory .... after moving the seat for what ever ... hoovering etc, it took me ages to get the seat back to where it was before. I made sure I had memory seats on my ML ..... why do you have to manually move the interior mirror though? ???
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My Omega had the memory seats and at the time didn't realise how handy the memory part was. The R Class had electric seats doing every thing electric but no memory .... after moving the seat for what ever ... hoovering etc, it took me ages to get the seat back to where it was before. I made sure I had memory seats on my ML ..... why do you have to manually move the interior mirror though? ???
Because stupid people who bought the original W140 S Class kept breaking the electrically positioned one by manually forcing it rather than using the convenient switch. So for the face-lift, they deleted it. Permanently.
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Because stupid people who bought the original W140 S Class kept breaking the electrically positioned one by manually forcing it rather than using the convenient switch. So for the face-lift, they deleted it. Permanently.
Someone at Mercedes should have bought an Omega to see how it should have worked then ;D
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For us, memory is essential, due to Er-indoors random driving position in full munchkin mode
Shame they don't do the internal mirror :(
Its a PITA when she's been using the car ;D
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I feel sorry for you people, I really do.
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For us, memory is essential, due to Er-indoors random driving position in full munchkin mode
Shame they don't do the internal mirror :(
Its a PITA when she's been using the car ;D
So Jag are the same as Merc ... I wonder what reason they give for not including the interior RVM
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Because stupid people who bought the original W140 S Class kept breaking the electrically positioned one by manually forcing it rather than using the convenient switch. So for the face-lift, they deleted it. Permanently.
Someone at Mercedes should have bought an Omega to see how it should have worked then ;D
Mercedes engineers weren't the problem...
It was more to do with the customers, or their wives, who never bothered Please read the manual ::)
Trouble is, being fully motorised meant the mechanism was really weak so didn't take long to break when people went to adjust them by hand, making them all floppy.
The easiest solution was clearly to delete the function rather than trying to educate the owners... The cost of which would probably have doubled the car's not insignificant development costs ::)
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The obvious solution for Merc would have been to design the mirror properly, as Opel did back in the early 90s.
Jaguar I'll excuse, seeing as they can't even get a clock to update. A mirror is simply too far for them ;D
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The obvious solution for Merc would have been to design the mirror properly, as Opel did back in the early 90s.
Jaguar I'll excuse, seeing as they can't even get a clock to update. A mirror is simply too far for them ;D
Amen to that. The auto dipping mirror in the XE is completely pants. Doesn't auto adjust, as discussed, and only after someone with misaligned headlights has been following you for about 10 minutes does it allow you to be dazzled with light with a slightly green tint instead. >:(
How hard is it just to give me a little lever to dip the mirror myself at night? >:(
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The auto dipping mirror in the newer bus works really well, Vauxhall appear to do them right :y
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How hard is it just to give me a little lever to dip the mirror myself at night? >:(
Jesus man, next you'll want a windy handle for the windows, too! :P ;D
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The auto dipping mirror in the newer bus works really well, Vauxhall appear to do them right :y
Same as my astra, so it can't be that difficult, can it?
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The auto dipping mirror in the newer bus works really well, Vauxhall appear to do them right :y
I was never particularly impressed with my Omega's auto dip mirror & just left the rear blind up.
I have to admit though that my Merc's auto dip mirror works quite well & tells the driver's door mirror to dip too. (They say though that the dipping door mirror glass is stupidly expensive)
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My Omega had the memory seats and at the time didn't realise how handy the memory part was. The R Class had electric seats doing every thing electric but no memory .... after moving the seat for what ever ... hoovering etc, it took me ages to get the seat back to where it was before. I made sure I had memory seats on my ML ..... why do you have to manually move the interior mirror though? ???
The theory I was told is that head height should be constant no matter the stature of the person (if the seat is set such that you get optimum visibility of the road/bonnet etc).
That of course doesn't allow for the fact the seat also goes forward/rearward!
Smart rear view mirrors of course resolve all, of that
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The obvious solution for Merc would have been to design the mirror properly, as Opel did back in the early 90s.
Jaguar I'll excuse, seeing as they can't even get a clock to update. A mirror is simply too far for them ;D
Amen to that. The auto dipping mirror in the XE is completely pants. Doesn't auto adjust, as discussed, and only after someone with misaligned headlights has been following you for about 10 minutes does it allow you to be dazzled with light with a slightly green tint instead. >:(
How hard is it just to give me a little lever to dip the mirror myself at night? >:(
You can retrofit the manual one.
That said it works great on ours, as do the dimming wing mirrors
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The auto dipping mirror in the newer bus works really well, Vauxhall appear to do them right :y
I was never particularly impressed with my Omega's auto dip mirror & just left the rear blind up.
I have to admit though that my Merc's auto dip mirror works quite well & tells the driver's door mirror to dip too. (They say though that the dipping door mirror glass is stupidly expensive)
Probably is, I grabbed a pair of spares off a scrapper just in case 6 months ago
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
But your short arse, properly sized people like me at 6ft5 find most seats lacking in thigh support.
The extending front part in the SRI trim, are very comfortable and supportive.
No, Lanky, I'm normal. In every way.
;D
Yet you don't fancy the arse off Shami C. :)
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The obvious solution for Merc would have been to design the mirror properly, as Opel did back in the early 90s.
Jaguar I'll excuse, seeing as they can't even get a clock to update. A mirror is simply too far for them ;D
Amen to that. The auto dipping mirror in the XE is completely pants. Doesn't auto adjust, as discussed, and only after someone with misaligned headlights has been following you for about 10 minutes does it allow you to be dazzled with light with a slightly green tint instead. >:(
How hard is it just to give me a little lever to dip the mirror myself at night? >:(
Mine dips fine, no issues there. As do both door mirrors.
My solution is to just ban Mrs TB from using it. But with 2 Vauxhalls and a Jag, I can often guarantee we are struggling for working cars ;D
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
But your short arse, properly sized people like me at 6ft5 find most seats lacking in thigh support.
The extending front part in the SRI trim, are very comfortable and supportive.
No, Lanky, I'm normal. In every way.
;D
Yet you don't fancy the arse off Shami C. :)
Nobody sane does. A true minger.
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
But your short arse, properly sized people like me at 6ft5 find most seats lacking in thigh support.
The extending front part in the SRI trim, are very comfortable and supportive.
No, Lanky, I'm normal. In every way.
;D
Yet you don't fancy the arse off Shami C. :)
Nobody sane does. A true minger.
I fancy her although I'm far from sane. :)
I believe I could cure her of her feminism. :)
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
But your short arse, properly sized people like me at 6ft5 find most seats lacking in thigh support.
The extending front part in the SRI trim, are very comfortable and supportive.
No, Lanky, I'm normal. In every way.
;D
Yet you don't fancy the arse off Shami C. :)
Nobody sane does. A true minger.
I fancy her although I'm far from sane. :)
I believe I could cure her of her feminism. :)
Doubt it. One look at your grotesque dial and she'll be off men forever. ;D
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
But your short arse, properly sized people like me at 6ft5 find most seats lacking in thigh support.
The extending front part in the SRI trim, are very comfortable and supportive.
No, Lanky, I'm normal. In every way.
;D
Yet you don't fancy the arse off Shami C. :)
Nobody sane does. A true minger.
I fancy her although I'm far from sane. :)
I believe I could cure her of her feminism. :)
Doubt it. One look at your grotesque dial and she'll be off men forever. ;D
You have a point. Perhaps a gimp mask would help. :)
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
But your short arse, properly sized people like me at 6ft5 find most seats lacking in thigh support.
The extending front part in the SRI trim, are very comfortable and supportive.
No, Lanky, I'm normal. In every way.
;D
Yet you don't fancy the arse off Shami C. :)
Nobody sane does. A true minger.
I fancy her although I'm far from sane. :)
I believe I could cure her of her feminism. :)
Doubt it. One look at your grotesque dial and she'll be off men forever. ;D
You have a point. Perhaps a gimp mask would help. :)
Just a common or garden bag over the head might do it ;D
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
But your short arse, properly sized people like me at 6ft5 find most seats lacking in thigh support.
The extending front part in the SRI trim, are very comfortable and supportive.
No, Lanky, I'm normal. In every way.
;D
Yet you don't fancy the arse off Shami C. :)
Nobody sane does. A true minger.
I fancy her although I'm far from sane. :)
I believe I could cure her of her feminism. :)
Doubt it. One look at your grotesque dial and she'll be off men forever. ;D
You have a point. Perhaps a gimp mask would help. :)
Just a common or garden bag over the head might do it ;D
I'll need something. Unfortunately I'm not blessed with movie star good looks, like your average scouser. :)
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Actually, Doddy was a scouser and he had no trouble 'pulling the birds'.... :)
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Actually, Doddy was a scouser and he had no trouble 'pulling the birds'.... :)
It was his tickling stick what did it :)
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Jag XF to Asian drug dealers to Ken Dodd via Shami Chakerabati ;D
Fixed.
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Actually, Doddy was a scouser and he had no trouble 'pulling the birds'.... :)
It was his tickling stick what did it :)
I thought it was the size of his dickey mint that impressed the girls. ::)
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Actually, Doddy was a scouser and he had no trouble 'pulling the birds'.... :)
It was his tickling stick what did it :)
I thought it was the size of his dickey mint that impressed the girls. ::)
Nah. Dickey Mint was a Diddyman.
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Certainly the 20way seats in my one, also available in the XF, were more comfortable than any Zaf I've been in, though maybe I got the setting just right :)
But your short arse, properly sized people like me at 6ft5 find most seats lacking in thigh support.
The extending front part in the SRI trim, are very comfortable and supportive.
No, Lanky, I'm normal. In every way.
;D
Yet you don't fancy the arse off Shami C. :)
Nobody sane does. A true minger.
I fancy her although I'm far from sane. :)
I believe I could cure her of her feminism. :)
Doubt it. One look at your grotesque dial and she'll be off men forever. ;D
You have a point. Perhaps a gimp mask would help. :)
Just a common or garden bag over the head might do it ;D
I'll need something. Unfortunately I'm not blessed with movie star good looks, like your average scouser. :)
Perhaps you could borrow Tigger's Marina and take her for a "ride" in it. ;D
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No bleddy lefties in my car thank you very much! >:(
And I don't care how 'progressive' they are! :D
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No bleddy lefties in my car thank you very much! >:(
And I don't care how 'progressive' they are! :D
Getting choosy these days, I see! I thought the only criterion was sufficient cider consumption... ;D
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No bleddy lefties in my car thank you very much! >:(
And I don't care how 'progressive' they are! :D
Getting choosy these days, I see! I thought the only criterion was sufficient cider consumption... ;D
Mind you, no doubt you'd need to get some special vegan cider in this case, where the yeast has signed a contract stating that they agree to you exploiting them for yourher intoxication.