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Peter13

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My MV6 has a list
« on: 25 April 2012, 19:54:13 »

I have just recognized an issue and I've absolutely no idea what to do.
The body has a list to the left, it does not stand horisontally like 2 heavy people were sitting on the left front and back seats. I remember I measured once the riding height on the left and compared to friend's car then thought it is lowered and replaced all 4 springs with shock absorvers together recently.
I have been searching through the internet for this issue but didn't find anything like this except a guy from the bmw forum whose stupid mechanic built in two left side arm (left handed upside down on the right)
Could be the same with mine? What else?
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #1 on: 25 April 2012, 20:11:35 »

First stop, have a look at your rear springs, maybe a broken one
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #2 on: 25 April 2012, 20:13:37 »

Just reread your post and you have replaced your rear springs! So no idea from me mate,
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #3 on: 26 April 2012, 14:14:53 »

Thanks for the try though...

Is it possible that the left/right springs are not the same? (strength, length)
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #4 on: 26 April 2012, 14:35:06 »

I've only changed the rear springs on an omega, but I think the fronts are longer than the back ones. Is it possible the shorter rears have been put on one side and the longer fronts On the other, causing the list?
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #5 on: 26 April 2012, 14:35:46 »

Possibly. Either broken or replacements not fitted as axle pairs.

Always replace steering and suspension parts in axle pairs.

Need to get under there and have a look for breakages or non matching shocks and springs per side.
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #6 on: 26 April 2012, 14:37:18 »

I've only changed the rear springs on an omega, but I think the fronts are longer than the back ones. Is it possible the shorter rears have been put on one side and the longer fronts On the other, causing the list?
Fronts and rears are very different. They simply wouldn't fit.
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #7 on: 26 April 2012, 14:40:39 »

I don't know if the shocks have any preload, but if so it could be a dead shock absorber. Any signs of fluid leakage?
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #8 on: 26 April 2012, 14:53:18 »

Also possible. Would be suprised to see such a marked difference in ride height on failed shocks, but defo worth a look.

If shocks show a major oil leak, bin them anyway though.
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #9 on: 26 April 2012, 19:19:58 »

All shocks are brand new.
Originally it had a self levelling rear suspension but as it has worn out I decided to replace it to a normal. And because I always have had a low riding problem (chassis scratched the speedbumps especially with passengers) I replaced all the 4 together.
-4 new normal schocks (cheapo german aftermarket)
-4 set of springs from a breaker. The two pairs showed the same height standing on the ground.
I would understand that I wasn't lucky with the second hand springs, but I don't expect that 2 out of 4 are weaker. Can one failing or uneven spring cause an issue like this?
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #10 on: 26 April 2012, 23:42:00 »

So on re reading. The car has low ride height on one side.

The shocks and springs are changed for new shocks and second hand springs, and the problem remains unchanged. Is that correct...?


(I have in the back of my mind... there was an issue with an aftermarket spring maker, possibly Kyb, who made the drivers side front spring longer to counteract the weight of the driver. Or so the thread suggested. It looked like the wrong spring to me though. Could it be the breaker has added an odd spring to a set with one broken and sold them as is..? )
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #11 on: 27 April 2012, 10:22:06 »

Yeah, probably the breaker...
I'm bringing her back to the garage today for inspection where the wheel alignment was set. (I also have got problems with steering and braking)
Then I think I will swap the L/R springs to see if it will lean to the right or not.
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #12 on: 27 April 2012, 14:54:36 »

I'm just coming from the shop and the wheel alignment was checked. Everything is okay, green on the display ... etc.
But i hate driving it! It's dangerous as well as if I lift my hands off the wheel in continues turning in! And this is also a new issue after replacing the springs and shocks.
I'm getting disappointed about her :(
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #13 on: 27 April 2012, 15:37:32 »

ok the "list" and your turning in issue must be related.  My suggestion is to bin the springs from a breaker and bit new - start with the rear pair

also see if you can post some pictures of the springs up for us
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Re: My MV6 has a list
« Reply #14 on: 03 May 2012, 10:05:10 »

I am bringing her for putting in new springs to the rear on next Wednesday. The available brands are:
  • kayaba
  • roc
  • kilen
  • lesjofors

Does anyone know any pros or cons for these springs?

Thanks.
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