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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #15 on: 10 February 2013, 08:39:34 »

I can't remember exactly what work I did on that engine, plugs and belt I think, but in the corse of doing so, it was fairly obvious some gorilla had been in there before, coil PACs looked like they'd been removed with a hammer and chisel, and almost every plastic clip and fixing broken off.

But did I see a bolt missing on one of the heat shields? Or was that on another car? :-\

Can see heat shield making the noise it does though?
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #16 on: 10 February 2013, 08:54:14 »

I can't remember exactly what work I did on that engine, plugs and belt I think, but in the corse of doing so, it was fairly obvious some gorilla had been in there before, coil PACs looked like they'd been removed with a hammer and chisel, and almost every plastic clip and fixing broken off.

But did I see a bolt missing on one of the heat shields? Or was that on another car? :-\

Can see heat shield making the noise it does though?
No, if a bolt is missing, someone has removed it. Why would someone remove a heat shield bolt?
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #17 on: 10 February 2013, 09:08:31 »

Don't know, unless as Kevin suggested its had new heads  ???  :-\
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #18 on: 10 February 2013, 09:16:15 »

Don't know, unless as Kevin suggested its had new heads  ???  :-\
Indeed. Or it's had head work of some sort at least.

Or...my memory is shite and I'm talking rubbish, which is far more likely tbh. ;D
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #19 on: 10 February 2013, 09:30:32 »

Bah sorry got my terminology wrong, I meant oil pressure release valve thing, the one were the belt has to come off. Had the pressure switch out easy to check pressure :)

MotherTs never had a split in the casting? Her V6 goes well
Good news :y (I meant the oil pump casting BTW....) (& I thought we were discussing the 3.2 that used to be MotherT's :-\)
« Last Edit: 10 February 2013, 09:33:46 by Andy H »
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #20 on: 10 February 2013, 09:38:48 »

Bah sorry got my terminology wrong, I meant oil pressure release valve thing, the one were the belt has to come off. Had the pressure switch out easy to check pressure :)

MotherTs never had a split in the casting? Her V6 goes well
Good news :y (I meant the oil pump casting BTW....) (& I thought we were discussing the 3.2 that used to be MotherT's :-\)

She's never had a 3.2, always 3.0 Elite Estate.

I only got the 3.2 late last year as it was a good opportunity at the time  :)
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #21 on: 10 February 2013, 11:23:43 »

NCDC unit still had its warranty sticker on it  :o
Well, I know for a fact that I've been in there, as some useless student was too tight to buy a carpass.
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #22 on: 10 February 2013, 11:25:50 »

I thought the pressure gardually dropped to "quite low"? But then, not much lower than my 3.0 (there was a good reason we didn't check my 3.2, which eludes me now).

I think gauge is in my garage?
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #23 on: 10 February 2013, 11:35:22 »

NCDC unit still had its warranty sticker on it  :o
Well, I know for a fact that I've been in there, as some useless student was too tight to buy a carpass.

Why do I need to buy one when you can "patch" it  :D

I thought the pressure gardually dropped to "quite low"? But then, not much lower than my 3.0 (there was a good reason we didn't check my 3.2, which eludes me now).

I think gauge is in my garage?

Actually might be right there
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #24 on: 10 February 2013, 11:50:58 »

Easy enough to check which T-Vents are fitted just by popping a camcover off .... suggest the drivers side one for an initial look... :y
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #25 on: 11 February 2013, 21:34:59 »

You can 'recondition' your lifters by soaking them in petrol or similar to break down the build up of hard oil/carbon in them and then squeeze out the old oil into new. Then you can prime them with new oil. Knackered lifters won't give you any play in the centre, so you can detect faulty ones straight away. I used this method to pick out the dodgy ones in my Cav 2.5 and there was/is absolutely no tapping on that engine at all now (cold or hot!). I've got a complete set of brand new OE lifters for my 3.2 rebuild so hopefully they'll see my engine to a quiet purr!  ;D
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #26 on: 12 February 2013, 00:34:46 »

Did you have a hot only issue then?
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #27 on: 12 February 2013, 09:17:14 »

No, to be honest I've only ever known of them to tap on startup. It's a common occurrence on older Vauxhalls, particularly the Redtop C20XE and C20LET engines, but unusual to hear of the problem manifesting itself once the car is up to temperature.
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #28 on: 13 February 2013, 22:22:36 »

I've got a fair few lifters - do you want a slack handful Tunnie ?
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Re: A failed lifter
« Reply #29 on: 15 February 2013, 22:53:03 »

has anyone tried valve lifter cleaner in these engines? I've had great results in other engines.
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