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Author Topic: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn  (Read 15426 times)

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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #30 on: 11 May 2020, 19:30:34 »

1.8 vectra c is Manual only ;)
And he did say so in the very first sentence.
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #31 on: 11 May 2020, 19:36:21 »

The key needs holding to crank, leaving it in position 2 ain't gonna cut it...

Presumably you have checked the fuses?
Thanks Doc. Yes, assistant did hold it to crank, but no volts appeared.
Just checked fuse 26 luggage compartment, 'Terminal 15 (starter switch) Twin Audio',  25 amp fuse in place and OK. I cannot see any other fuse listed worthy of attention.
I am tempted to check that lead on my other Vectra tomorrow.
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #32 on: 11 May 2020, 19:40:14 »

OK, given as that's the basics outlined...

Are you getting 12v across the battery?
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #33 on: 11 May 2020, 19:51:51 »

12.55  ;D
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #34 on: 11 May 2020, 20:05:57 »

I don't recall ever seeing a Vectra one :D

I can now point out the starter on the Roadster as it has a nice white sticker on it still.  ;D And besides, a Vectra has a huge bonnet to lift so you can see the engine ..... a Roadster has a tea tray sized inspection hatch instead.  ::) ::)
Still .... a Smart drives the correct wheels  :y :y :y

Unfortunately they are far to close to the front ones to make it worthwhile or a nice experience  ;D ;D :y

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Tell me about it when I'm on the motorway & it's windy!
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #35 on: 11 May 2020, 20:07:29 »

OK, given as that's the basics outlined...

Are you getting 12v across the battery?
Yes, and 12v between earth and heavy lead to terminal on solenoid too.
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #36 on: 11 May 2020, 20:25:14 »

Are you definitely using the correct key to start the car ?
 not a spare key that may not have the transponder programmed 
does the key work the central locking ?
and sure that no aftermarket kill switch or immobilizer is fitted  :-\

seems odd it was working and now isn't with just the battery flat/being swapped  :-\
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #37 on: 11 May 2020, 20:31:02 »

Surely the engine would turn over without the correct transponder?
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #38 on: 11 May 2020, 20:43:07 »

Surely the engine would turn over without the correct transponder?
An Omega yes, Vectrum?  :-\
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #39 on: 11 May 2020, 21:21:53 »

Are you definitely using the correct key to start the car ?
 not a spare key that may not have the transponder programmed 
does the key work the central locking ?
and sure that no aftermarket kill switch or immobilizer is fitted  :-\

seems odd it was working and now isn't with just the battery flat/being swapped  :-\
Yes, the right key, it works the central locking, I'm not aware of any other kill switch or immobiliser.
 I bought this car last July, it's due MOT April 14th 2020, chasing a small water leak I created another one, see http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=146494.0. Then the coronavirus changed everything, Vx dealers closed, MOTs were extended, over 70s were locked down indefinitely. I repaired the coolant leak, refilled with coolant. In recommissioning the car, the starter will not function.
 It seems odd to me too.
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #40 on: 11 May 2020, 21:28:30 »

When you say it works the central locking, is that mechanically in the lock or using the fob buttons?
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #41 on: 11 May 2020, 21:56:01 »

is the starter motor anywhere near where the coolant leaked  :-\
I'm wandering if some coolant bridged the start terminal to ground ,blowing a fuse , unlikely
or any work done fixing the leak damaged the loom or disconnected something  :-\
also , are all lives and grounds that where on the battery now back on (i say that because often battery terminals have more than 1 wire )

now the battery is re-connected ,has any codes been stored ?

doing a code read with your Chinese computer thingy could shed some light

try engine ,then a full module scan is what I would do  :y

another thought , seem to remember the vec c suffering CIM or clock fails ? don't know anything about it
perhaps someone who knows vec c could give some pointers DG or TB perhaps ??
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #42 on: 11 May 2020, 21:56:14 »

When you say it works the central locking, is that mechanically in the lock or using the fob buttons?
Using the fob buttons
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #43 on: 11 May 2020, 22:07:15 »

or is it called SIM not CIM , i can't remember  :-[

another test is to disconnect the power steering motor and try and start it

but code read is a good start point  :y
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Re: Vectra 1.8 starter will not turn
« Reply #44 on: 11 May 2020, 22:10:37 »

is the starter motor anywhere near where the coolant leaked  :-\
I'm wandering if some coolant bridged the start terminal to ground ,blowing a fuse , unlikely
or any work done fixing the leak damaged the loom or disconnected something  :-\
also , are all lives and grounds that where on the battery now back on (i say that because often battery terminals have more than 1 wire )

now the battery is re-connected ,has any codes been stored ?

doing a code read with your Chinese computer thingy could shed some light

try engine ,then a full module scan is what I would do  :y

another thought , seem to remember the vec c suffering CIM or clock fails ? don't know anything about it
perhaps someone who knows vec c could give some pointers DG or TB perhaps ??
Coolant leak was in front of the block, starter is at the back, so did not get wet. I will check the leads are all still connected, but think they are.
I will try a scan tomorrow, but car has run well for nine months, and has not suffered much dissembly, and there is power at the starter. It's just all new to me; I have changed several starters on Senators and Omegas, but the Vectra is different.
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