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[wildhog70]

Hi all. I am at my wits end. Under braking Car dives left at the scenery. Now trust me everything has been chacked that I know of. Bushes replaced, arms etc. The car has been of the road most of the year. Two mechanics have given up and a third now at the end too.

However on watching the car when the car is braked the front left wheel moves back and in.

Strangely when left for a while the car is actually ok not great but better that before, then on the third or fourth pump of the brakes the car starts this behaviour.

There has been full caliper strip. Calipers replaced, lines replaced, fluid replaced, master cylinder replaced, lines checked for equal presure(when stationary) so I believe its the brakes but dont know where else to look.

Any ideas!

[Andy B]

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However on watching the car when the car is braked the front left wheel moves back and in. ....
Any ideas!

That sounds like bushes ...... whose wishbones did you use?  :-/

[Entwood]

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However on watching the car when the car is braked the front left wheel moves back and in. ....
Any ideas!

That sounds like bushes ...... whose wishbones did you use?  :-/

If it's not wishbones it is definately something mechanical ... wheels should not move under braking !!!

Stick your location in your profile .. you might live near someone who can help

[wildhog70]

Thanks but not bushes. They have been replaced three times. 2xoriginal vauxhall and the last set with powerflex. Its the obvious one to go for but its not curing it. two new arms fitted. Discs also swapped. If the brakes are pulling on one side more than the other surely the weight of the car will cause the wheel to move back and tuck if its not being compensated by the other side. I have three mechanics all good ones who have reached the point of insanity trying everything to work it out but it doesnt make sense.

[TheBoy]

Subframe loose?

[wildhog70]

Subframe loose?

Subframe has been checked and its 100% All bolts etc have been removed to check for damage.

[wildhog70]

Sorry answered you back please see below

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However on watching the car when the car is braked the front left wheel moves back and in. ....
Any ideas!

That sounds like bushes ...... whose wishbones did you use?  :-/

If it's not wishbones it is definately something mechanical ... wheels should not move under braking !!!

Stick your location in your profile .. you might live near someone who can help

[freecall666]

could be a servo fault, one off the seals inside has gone, could also be the abs control... not the unit but just an idear.

[TheBoy]

Has it been aligned correctly, if so, post up the figures

[wildhog70]

Subframe loose?

I take it you meant front subframe

[TheBoy]

Presumably its been on a brake tester to check for brake imbalance?

[wildhog70]

I take it you mean front subframe

Subframe loose?

Subframe has been checked and its 100% All bolts etc have been removed to check for damage.

[wildhog70]

I take it you mean front subframe

Subframe loose?

Subframe has been checked and its 100% All bolts etc have been removed to check for damage.

I take it you meant front subframe

[TheBoy]

I take it you mean front subframe

Subframe loose?

Subframe has been checked and its 100% All bolts etc have been removed to check for damage.

I take it you meant front subframe

I did, although if you are running out of ideas, its as well to ensure the rear isn't twisting under stress...

[wildhog70]

Presumably its been on a brake tester to check for brake imbalance?

Cheers- Every time we have done work to the front the allignment has been checked and is ok. When the brakes are applied the car dives for the hedge. When being driven the car is 100% no drifting to left or right, crabbing, tyre wear or any other symptoms of allignment issues.