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Care crisis
« on: 29 May 2019, 22:43:34 »

Where is the money going to come from to care for the elderly and the disadvantaged?

How come there is less per head in England than in Wales or Scotland ( where I have noticed everything is free!)? Joking apart from personal family experience care is a problem even in Scotland.

More tax? Keep it the same?

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« Reply #1 on: 30 May 2019, 11:27:46 »

Where is the money going to come from to care for the elderly and the disadvantaged?

That's easy: the millenials, and the generations that come after. All the main parties are scared sh!tless of losing the grey vote, which is why they've cut working-age benefits, youth services spending, school funcing etc. etc. Even tax breaks on pension saving is less generous than it used to be. At the same time, they are extremely keen on maintaining the unaffordable triple lock on pensions and other benefits for wealthy OAPs.

What you have at the moment are a generation that retired early, retired healthy and retired (comparatively) wealthy. Unfortunately, the baby boomers are going to be a growing burden on the state for the next 20-30yrs until nature takes its course. By the time my generation gets there, there will be less pension money and less state spending on health. So it should begin to balance out.

How come there is less per head in England than in Wales or Scotland ( where I have noticed everything is free!)? Joking apart from personal family experience care is a problem even in Scotland.

Because since devolution, the provinces have had more money to spend on pretty much everything ;-). Its one of the reasons the whole Indy Ref business is so ill-thought-out - they won't admit it, but they need the english cash cow to keep on providing.  :y

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« Reply #2 on: 30 May 2019, 12:16:27 »

Luckily my father in law is only spending £910 a week on his care home fees , absolute bargain  >:(
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« Reply #3 on: 30 May 2019, 13:01:02 »

What you have at the moment are a generation that retired early, retired healthy and retired (comparatively) wealthy. Unfortunately, the baby boomers are going to be a growing burden on the state for the next 20-30yrs until nature takes its course. By the time my generation gets there, there will be less pension money and less state spending on health. So it should begin to balance out.

You're younger than me, IIRC? In which case let me fix that for you:

By the time my generation gets there, there will be no pension money and no state spending on health, and we'll all be living in caves.

 :y ;)
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« Reply #4 on: 30 May 2019, 13:10:19 »

What you have at the moment are a generation that retired early, retired healthy and retired (comparatively) wealthy. Unfortunately, the baby boomers are going to be a growing burden on the state for the next 20-30yrs until nature takes its course. By the time my generation gets there, there will be less pension money and less state spending on health. So it should begin to balance out.

You're younger than me, IIRC? In which case let me fix that for you:

By the time my generation gets there, there will be no pension money and no state spending on health, and we'll all be living in caves.

 :y ;)
Will there be enough caves? I'm not so sure. Perhaps we should start excavating them now.
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« Reply #5 on: 30 May 2019, 14:05:27 »

Its an impossible problem to solve imo. It used to be the case that in most cases, families would take care of their elderly relatives when they need taking care of.
They usually all lived quite close to one another and felt obliged to do this.
The situation with families now is very different for a variety of reasons, and the cost to the state to look after all of us when we are old is always going to be prohibitive.  :(
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« Reply #6 on: 30 May 2019, 14:32:48 »

You're younger than me, IIRC? In which case let me fix that for you:

By the time my generation gets there, there will be no pension money and no state spending on health, and we'll all be living in caves.

 :y ;)

Sounds about right!

I'm 35 (just) which is depressing as it puts you in a different box on the government forms.
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« Reply #7 on: 30 May 2019, 14:35:30 »

You're younger than me, IIRC? In which case let me fix that for you:

By the time my generation gets there, there will be no pension money and no state spending on health, and we'll all be living in caves.

 :y ;)

Sounds about right!

I'm 35 (just) which is depressing as it puts you in a different box on the government forms.

Don't worry. I'm approaching a much more depressing box in 1 year and 3 months time, not that I'm counting. :o
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« Reply #8 on: 30 May 2019, 14:48:01 »

Both of you need to look on the bright side ...

At least it's not a wooden box! ;)
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« Reply #9 on: 30 May 2019, 15:04:46 »

You're younger than me, IIRC? In which case let me fix that for you:

By the time my generation gets there, there will be no pension money and no state spending on health, and we'll all be living in caves.

 :y ;)

Sounds about right!

I'm 35 (just) which is depressing as it puts you in a different box on the government forms.

Don't worry. I'm approaching a much more depressing box in 1 year and 3 months time, not that I'm counting. :o

Is that the one that just ends in a + sign?
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« Reply #10 on: 30 May 2019, 15:15:53 »

Im less than half a year away from 60 ! It doesn't seem more than a few years ago that I came to England just before my 20th birthday.
The scary thing is that the older I get, the quicker the time goes.  ::)
I shall soon be sat by the sunny window with a bit of potato stuck to my chin.  :D
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« Reply #11 on: 30 May 2019, 15:22:38 »

Im less than half a year away from 60 ! It doesn't seem more than a few years ago that I came to England just before my 20th birthday.
The scary thing is that the older I get, the quicker the time goes.  ::)
I shall soon be sat by the sunny window with a bit of potato stuck to my chin.  :D
Nah youwill be on the keyboard googling Brexit.
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« Reply #12 on: 30 May 2019, 15:39:27 »

Hope so.  :y ;D
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« Reply #13 on: 30 May 2019, 16:56:19 »

I can't believe you've all seemed to overlook the answer to solving all the crises[NHS/police/care of the elderly etc etc]simply vote for Corbyn he and his cronies have forests full of magic money trees and once he's in No 10 all problems will be solved :D :D :-X
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« Reply #14 on: 30 May 2019, 17:35:38 »

Im less than half a year away from 60 ! It doesn't seem more than a few years ago that I came to England just before my 20th birthday.
The scary thing is that the older I get, the quicker the time goes.  ::)
I shall soon be sat by the sunny window with a bit of potato stuck to my chin.  :D

Me too :-X :-X
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