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Title: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: STEMO on 14 February 2018, 18:00:58
The e-pedal. You'd have to train your brain a bit before you went out with that bugger.
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 February 2018, 18:26:42
One pedal. Bizarre. ???

How does that work then?
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: BazaJT on 14 February 2018, 18:37:01
Must be a bit counter intuitive at first.Having said that I think the new one looks better than the original.Still be of no use to me as I can't get near enough to the bungalow to plug one in to charge it.
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: STEMO on 14 February 2018, 18:37:11
I don't know, and I can't be arsed asking Mr Google due to a bout of Manflu.
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: STEMO on 14 February 2018, 18:37:52
Saw the new micra the other day. Nice looking little car.
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Eboy.com on 14 February 2018, 18:38:09
One pedal. Bizarre. ???

How does that work then?
Its a speed control. If you want to go slower, you lift, if the speed differential is large, it will brake.
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Eboy.com on 14 February 2018, 18:38:55
But your average Nissan driver has no idea how to drive anyway...
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: STEMO on 14 February 2018, 18:41:28
So....if you take your foot completely off the pedal to, say, reach for your lipstick, you perform an emergency stop?




Anyhow.......here's a bloke with a woman's voice to explain:

https://youtu.be/JOrxWYrpDk4
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 14 February 2018, 18:46:48
Just like a dodgem one pedal, turn the steering wheel all the way round and your in reverse sounds like fun.😀
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 February 2018, 19:10:32
One pedal. Bizarre. ???

How does that work then?
Its a speed control. If you want to go slower, you lift, if the speed differential is large, it will brake.

But how does it know if you require gentle retardation or a panic stop when you release the pedal?
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 February 2018, 19:19:03
Anyway....my car is showing almost 20 MPG so there is no need for derv or electricity to make it more frugal. :)
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: STEMO on 14 February 2018, 19:26:01
One pedal. Bizarre. ???

How does that work then?
Its a speed control. If you want to go slower, you lift, if the speed differential is large, it will brake.

But how does it know if you require gentle retardation or a panic stop when you release the pedal?
You'd have to have gentle retardation to buy one.
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Mr Gav on 14 February 2018, 19:50:29
But your average Nissan driver has no idea how to drive anyway...

Far cough  ;D
Saw the new micra the other day. Nice looking little car.

It`s not exactly little  ;)
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: STEMO on 14 February 2018, 19:54:20
But your average Nissan driver has no idea how to drive anyway...

Far cough  ;D
Saw the new micra the other day. Nice looking little car.

It`s not exactly little  ;)
It's all relative  :P
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Mr Gav on 15 February 2018, 09:56:25
But your average Nissan driver has no idea how to drive anyway...

Far cough  ;D
Saw the new micra the other day. Nice looking little car.

It`s not exactly little  ;)
It's all relative  :P

I had a mooch around one last year while I was waiting for my car from servicing and thought "It`s not a Micra anymore in the same way that a Mini isn`t mini anymore"
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Fuse 19 on 15 February 2018, 10:08:14
What a rather stupid idea, if your foot slips off the peddle you start braking.
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 February 2018, 10:10:45
What a rather stupid idea, if your foot slips off the peddle you start braking.
.. and after a week you become a rather liability should you decide to drive any normal car. ;D
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 February 2018, 10:40:47
But your average Nissan driver has no idea how to drive anyway...

Far cough  ;D
Saw the new micra the other day. Nice looking little car.

It`s not exactly little  ;)
It's all relative :P

Yes......a Micra is far smaller than Betelgeuse. :)
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: jimmy944 on 15 February 2018, 11:12:25
I went to look at a new one the other day as I was passing a dealer and I rather like them, with the exception that there is no reach adjustment on the steering wheel so there's no way I could get comfortable in one, which was a shame.

Financially it would make a lot of sense for me, and given that very shortly my entire commute will be subject to always-on motorway speed cameras, speed is no longer a factor in my choice of daily commuter, its all about the comfort and refinement.
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 February 2018, 11:37:15
Hence the Volvo ::)
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: jimmy944 on 15 February 2018, 11:43:15
Hence the Volvo ::)

Comfort yes, refinement, definitely no. Though that said the leaf is quicker by some margin at UK road speed.
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Andy B on 15 February 2018, 11:50:42
At what point will it decide to put the brake lights on?  ??? When you lift off completely or immediately when you start to lift the pedal?

I vote stupid idea too.
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 February 2018, 12:08:07
Ahh, on further investigation.

1) You can turn it off
2) You still have a brake pedal for heavy braking

So it appears to be a mode that simulates a large amount of engine braking when you lift off.

Still a daft idea that will form bad habits, and what about the scenario when you think it's engaged but someone has turned it off, etc? ::)
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: jimmy944 on 15 February 2018, 12:11:26
At what point will it decide to put the brake lights on? ??? When you lift off completely or immediately when you start to lift the pedal?

I vote stupid idea too.

It is based on the rate of deceleration, much like the systems on some cars that will put the hazards on once a certain level of emergency braking is detected, although obviously the brake lights kick in sooner than this  :o

I haven't tried it, but by all accounts (from people who have used similar systems on other EVs) it becomes very intuitive very rapidly. Most EVs allow you to vary the level of regenerative braking and this is just an extension of those same systems.
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 February 2018, 12:21:36
At what point will it decide to put the brake lights on? ??? When you lift off completely or immediately when you start to lift the pedal?

I vote stupid idea too.

It is based on the rate of deceleration, much like the systems on some cars that will put the hazards on once a certain level of emergency braking is detected, although obviously the brake lights kick in sooner than this  :o

I haven't tried it, but by all accounts (from people who have used similar systems on other EVs) it becomes very intuitive very rapidly. Most EVs allow you to vary the level of regenerative braking and this is just an extension of those same systems.

Which is often no more than a gentle dab of the brake. :-\
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: STEMO on 15 February 2018, 13:04:06
At what point will it decide to put the brake lights on? ??? When you lift off completely or immediately when you start to lift the pedal?

I vote stupid idea too.

It is based on the rate of deceleration, much like the systems on some cars that will put the hazards on once a certain level of emergency braking is detected, although obviously the brake lights kick in sooner than this  :o

I haven't tried it, but by all accounts (from people who have used similar systems on other EVs) it becomes very intuitive very rapidly. Most EVs allow you to vary the level of regenerative braking and this is just an extension of those same systems.
I have enough trouble jumping between the wife's manual and my auto. I really don't need a third option to fry my feeble brain.
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: STEMO on 15 February 2018, 13:05:45
Anyway, if you're gonna fick about with toy car features, why not go the whole hog and put a joystick in there?
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: steve6367 on 15 February 2018, 13:30:50
The e-pedal. You'd have to train your brain a bit before you went out with that bugger.

I drive my current Leaf with just the 1 peddle 95% of the time - very relaxing and the Omega takes some getting used to after!

The only difference with the new one is it will apply the actual brakes and bring you to a stop rather than only using regen.

Steve
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 February 2018, 14:57:26
The Tesla model Ss that I have driven can be set to maximum braking regeneration. Lifting off will drop a considerable chunk of speed as the energy get put back into the system...

Not a new idea, a decent truck exhaust can be set to slow the vehicle to almost a full stop when the accelerator is released. Certainly found the Volvo VEB+ to be particularly effective in this regard 8)

Both will show the brake lights, for those that wondered.
Title: Re: The new Nissan Leaf...with only one pedal
Post by: steve6367 on 15 February 2018, 17:21:50
The Tesla model Ss that I have driven can be set to maximum braking regeneration. Lifting off will drop a considerable chunk of speed as the energy get put back into the system...

Not a new idea, a decent truck exhaust can be set to slow the vehicle to almost a full stop when the accelerator is released. Certainly found the Volvo VEB+ to be particularly effective in this regard 8)

Both will show the brake lights, for those that wondered.

The only new bit here is the Nissan system will use the friction brakes and actually stop the car completely  :y